Agreed. But Ivan will be there for sure.Netserk said:Switch Paulinho with Tosatto and I'll agree![]()
He want his 'Dad' with him…probably so that Ivan can give him the ole motorised wheel at the right time…LaFlorecita said:Agreed. But Ivan will be there for sure.Netserk said:Switch Paulinho with Tosatto and I'll agree![]()
Probably to room with Berto again
Oh Berto, why can't you pick useful roomies![]()
Miburo said:That team can be insane for the TTT.
Contador, rogers, sagan (sprinters are usually really good in TTT), kreuziger in shape, bennati.
Contador has an amazing team for this tour, also 2nd stage will be really risky with the wind. He has prob the best team on the flat. Sagan and Bennati are absolute monsters on it.
And if majka and kreuziger are at their best contador has by far the best team in the mountains.
Cavendish has zero chance at winning this Tour. Contador at this point has got more rationally 50/50 odds, which isn't bad considering. Only going into the third week, however, does any likely candidate's odds increase or decrease according to GC position (barring earlier disasters). I can't see Contador's start to the Tour, considering form alone, to justify a disaster scenario, thus your prediction is utter nonesense.ninjadriver said:Miburo said:That team can be insane for the TTT.
Contador, rogers, sagan (sprinters are usually really good in TTT), kreuziger in shape, bennati.
Contador has an amazing team for this tour, also 2nd stage will be really risky with the wind. He has prob the best team on the flat. Sagan and Bennati are absolute monsters on it.
And if majka and kreuziger are at their best contador has by far the best team in the mountains.
Kreuziger and Basso were AWOL at the Giro. Kreuziger's been bad since his return to the peloton, and Basso to me clearly looks waaaay over-the-hill, a la Tiger Woods, Kobe Bryant and, to a lesser extent, Roger Federer.
Majka, I agree, could be a steller teammate, and if my continued prediction comes true that Contador has zero shot at winning the TDF, due to what the Giro took out of him, maybe Majka can go for the GC. I'm hoping Contador has a flat on the cobbles, loses 12 minutes, abandons, and then does what he should have done all along, win the Vuelta and add to his amazing Grand Tour victory tally.
rhubroma said:Cavendish has zero chance at winning this Tour. Contador at this point has got more rationally 50/50 odds, which isn't bad considering. Only going into the third week, however, does any likely candidate's odds increase or decrease according to GC position (barring earlier disasters). I can't see Contador's start to the Tour, considering form alone, to justify a disaster scenario, thus your prediction is utter nonesense.ninjadriver said:Miburo said:That team can be insane for the TTT.
Contador, rogers, sagan (sprinters are usually really good in TTT), kreuziger in shape, bennati.
Contador has an amazing team for this tour, also 2nd stage will be really risky with the wind. He has prob the best team on the flat. Sagan and Bennati are absolute monsters on it.
And if majka and kreuziger are at their best contador has by far the best team in the mountains.
Kreuziger and Basso were AWOL at the Giro. Kreuziger's been bad since his return to the peloton, and Basso to me clearly looks waaaay over-the-hill, a la Tiger Woods, Kobe Bryant and, to a lesser extent, Roger Federer.
Majka, I agree, could be a steller teammate, and if my continued prediction comes true that Contador has zero shot at winning the TDF, due to what the Giro took out of him, maybe Majka can go for the GC. I'm hoping Contador has a flat on the cobbles, loses 12 minutes, abandons, and then does what he should have done all along, win the Vuelta and add to his amazing Grand Tour victory tally.
I know, pretty soon he'll be the last man blown out with 2k to go on the first charge to a MTF. Freekin sensational!Jspear said:rhubroma said:Cavendish has zero chance at winning this Tour. Contador at this point has got more rationally 50/50 odds, which isn't bad considering. Only going into the third week, however, does any likely candidate's odds increase or decrease according to GC position (barring earlier disasters). I can't see Contador's start to the Tour, considering form alone, to justify a disaster scenario, thus your prediction is utter nonesense.ninjadriver said:Miburo said:That team can be insane for the TTT.
Contador, rogers, sagan (sprinters are usually really good in TTT), kreuziger in shape, bennati.
Contador has an amazing team for this tour, also 2nd stage will be really risky with the wind. He has prob the best team on the flat. Sagan and Bennati are absolute monsters on it.
And if majka and kreuziger are at their best contador has by far the best team in the mountains.
Kreuziger and Basso were AWOL at the Giro. Kreuziger's been bad since his return to the peloton, and Basso to me clearly looks waaaay over-the-hill, a la Tiger Woods, Kobe Bryant and, to a lesser extent, Roger Federer.
Majka, I agree, could be a steller teammate, and if my continued prediction comes true that Contador has zero shot at winning the TDF, due to what the Giro took out of him, maybe Majka can go for the GC. I'm hoping Contador has a flat on the cobbles, loses 12 minutes, abandons, and then does what he should have done all along, win the Vuelta and add to his amazing Grand Tour victory tally.
I beg to differ. I think Cav has made great improvements in his climbing and will be a force to be reckoned with.![]()
Let's be realistic, a podium and the polka-dots is probably the limit of what Cav can achieve.rhubroma said:I know, pretty soon he'll be the last man blown out with 2k to go on the first charge to a MTF. Freekin sensational!
Without Bodnar the team doesn't look that good on the TTT, flat, or cobbles anymoreLaFlorecita said:Team Yannick @TeamYannick 10h10 hours ago
Alberto Contador is 0,000000000005 km/h too fast and too cool for me.
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and nooooo Jesus spotted at Tinkoff Saxo pre Tour training camp
Toso there too
Not sure what kind of form Kreuziger will arrive in. Still, doesn't leave much room for error. Bodnar would help immenselyLaFlorecita said:Bennati, Tosatto, Rogers, Kreuziger, Contador, Sagan, Valgren _O_
But Bodnar is injured.damian13ster said:Not sure what kind of form Kreuziger will arrive in. Still, doesn't leave much room for error. Bodnar would help immenselyLaFlorecita said:Bennati, Tosatto, Rogers, Kreuziger, Contador, Sagan, Valgren _O_
I am aware of that. Just saying that it is fairly thin team. We will see how they do but with a single mechanical or a rider not being in good shape they might lose time. And I think TTT and cobbles will be absolutely crucial for Contador in TdFLaFlorecita said:But Bodnar is injured.damian13ster said:Not sure what kind of form Kreuziger will arrive in. Still, doesn't leave much room for error. Bodnar would help immenselyLaFlorecita said:Bennati, Tosatto, Rogers, Kreuziger, Contador, Sagan, Valgren _O_
Lal. #wishfulthinkingdamian13ster said:Without Bodnar the team doesn't look that good on the TTT, flat, or cobbles anymoreLaFlorecita said:Team Yannick @TeamYannick 10h10 hours ago
Alberto Contador is 0,000000000005 km/h too fast and too cool for me.
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and nooooo Jesus spotted at Tinkoff Saxo pre Tour training camp
Toso there too
What, no one measured the diameter of his lower thigh to see if he's lost any weight??LaFlorecita said:Team Yannick @TeamYannick 10h10 hours ago
Alberto Contador is 0,000000000005 km/h too fast and too cool for me.
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and nooooo Jesus spotted at Tinkoff Saxo pre Tour training camp
Toso there too
he wasn't that bad in today's stage. So he most likely will make the team. Besides, wasn't he supposed to replace Roche as the new climbing talent?sacrifice&hardwork said:OK. So with Roman(totally changes things) now being able to ride, the team shall (probably) be:sacrifice&hardwork said:Change are (*) this might be the Tour team:
Alberto Contador
Michael Rogers
Sergio Paulinho
Rafal Majka
Jesus Hernandez
Robert Kiserlovski
Peter Sagan
Daniele Bennati
Michael Valgren
*99%
Alberto Contador
Michael Rogers
Sergio Paulinho
Roman Kreuziger
Rafal Majka
Robert Kiserlovski*
Peter Sagan
Daniele Bennati
Michael Valgren
*The last spot should be between Jesus Hernandez and Robert Kiserlovski but I'm giving the edge to Robert.
Yes that was the whole point of signing Kiserlovski. To help AC in the mountains.Jelantik said:he wasn't that bad in today's stage. So he most likely will make the team. Besides, wasn't he supposed to replace Roche as the new climbing talent?sacrifice&hardwork said:OK. So with Roman(totally changes things) now being able to ride, the team shall (probably) be:sacrifice&hardwork said:Change are (*) this might be the Tour team:
Alberto Contador
Michael Rogers
Sergio Paulinho
Rafal Majka
Jesus Hernandez
Robert Kiserlovski
Peter Sagan
Daniele Bennati
Michael Valgren
*99%
Alberto Contador
Michael Rogers
Sergio Paulinho
Roman Kreuziger
Rafal Majka
Robert Kiserlovski*
Peter Sagan
Daniele Bennati
Michael Valgren
*The last spot should be between Jesus Hernandez and Robert Kiserlovski but I'm giving the edge to Robert.