Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[Poursuivant]

I dont understand where he says he could follow Quintanas attack, but he never, seems strange to me.

 

[rm7]

He could follow Quintana's attack, but he was afraid to blow up, because he didn't knew if he could follow his pace all to the top.

I guess he made the right call and limited his losses.

 

[BlurryVII]

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“I could follow him (Nairo Quintana) but I didn’t. I’m not exactly sure whether I could follow him all the way. It was an explosive attack and you saw the result of it.

“If I say I’m tired after the Giro then people will say I have excuses. Maybe I’m just feeling the effort of it but other people are also tired out there so maybe it’s a good thing to have done the Giro… For me it’s complicated, it depends on how much the other guys want to risk. There are solutions but you want win with this sort of game or you can lose so decisions will have to be made.”

Enigmatic and puzzling. Could follow, but didn't because wasn't sure if he really could follow? We did see the result. He couldn't follow. And seems like he's trying to make excuses without people calling it excuses.

At the end of the day, they are not excuses, they are facts. He rode the Giro, and it heavily affected his preparation and form for this Tour.

He knows very well he can do much better. His time up Mende of 2010 with Rodriguez was faster than Quintana Froome today. That's not the only evidence. But he's not on equal ground, as simple as that.

 

[Sciocco]

Sure are a lotta posts in this here thread.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Sure are a lotta posts in this here thread.

Did you just sneak post #30,000 in here?!

 

[Red Rick]

#30,0001 obviously,

Flo you want the 30,000th?

 

[Jspear]

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Sure are a lotta posts in this here thread.

Did you just sneak post #30,000 in here?!

Delete however many posts of yours you need to so yours is the 30,000.

 

[Sciocco]

I don't mind deleting either, but I do believe mine is currently 30001st at this moment.

 

[Red Rick]

Hey, I can't delete posts, prolly cuz they're too old already but I can change it to doping talk so the mods remove it

Sorry mods,

 

[BlurryVII]

I got the 30 k

 

[Sunny]

I'm not exactly a fan of Contador but while watching his interview at Eurosport today I couldn't help but notice how good looking he is.
(I know that this confession is not relevant to the thread )

 

[Carols]

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So who all has added warmfuzzies to the block list? I still think AC will get 3rd, by the way. Not the result most of us wanted, but still great.

Well I certainly have but people keep quoting him so I still see most of his garbage.

 

[BlurryVII]

I would love to see Quintana and Froome going to the Giro next year... then face Contador in top shape at the Tour. Would be enlightening to see !

Edit: Unfortunately, they don't have the cojones to even dare to try it. They pick their battles.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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I don't mind deleting either, but I do believe mine is currently 30001st at this moment.

It's 30,001st if you include the opening post

 

[Carols]

As a first and foremost a cycling fan and decidedly one of the Alberto CN family I would prefer he gets a podium. To ride 3 straight GTs and end with 1st-1st-3rd is nothing to sneeze at in the annuls of cycling history.

At this point unless there is some significant improvement a kamikaze attack will net him the same thing it got Il Pirata. Now that was embarressing . But if he can go kamikaze and win a stage that will be totally cool and the best we can expect along with a 3rd.

Meanwhile Bala looks strong, I hope he tanks, and you all know I Do Like Bala!

 

[warmfuzzies]

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So who all has added warmfuzzies to the block list? I still think AC will get 3rd, by the way. Not the result most of us wanted, but still great.

Well I certainly have but people keep quoting him so I still see most of his garbage.

Right up in your eye with a little 'Contador is DONE'. He's gonna get dropped like 3rd period French on Alp D'Huez.

 

[Matteo.]

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I would love to see Quintana and Froome going to the Giro next year... then face Contador in top shape at the Tour. Would be enlightening to see !

Edit: Unfortunately, they don't have the cojones to even dare to try it. They pick their battles.

The bitter truth is the Giro has not influence on him.
And 'all year that goes slowly. . In February, when he won in Andalucia he has produced 5.7 w / kg on the climb. In may, at the Giro on Mortirolo , the same values and the other day on the Pierre also.
Always about 5.7 w / kg, it is clear that Alberto is the problem, not the Giro. The difference is that now struggle with Froome and Quintana, while in the Giro there were Aru and Landa who was stopped by the team.
This probably is not a so good year , as 2010

 

[warmfuzzies]

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I would love to see Quintana and Froome going to the Giro next year... then face Contador in top shape at the Tour. Would be enlightening to see !

Edit: Unfortunately, they don't have the cojones to even dare to try it. They pick their battles.

Uhh. The best-of-the-best compete for Overall @ the Tour. The best of the rest for the Giro. The Vuelta is the 'last chance dance' for favorites salvaging their season or super domestiques on a good year. Like Roberto Heras, with his 4 Vuelta crowns. So no, you AREN'T going to see Qunitana or Froome contest the Giro. At least not until they are past their prime.

 

[BlurryVII]

Re: Re:

I would love to see Quintana and Froome going to the Giro next year... then face Contador in top shape at the Tour. Would be enlightening to see !

Edit: Unfortunately, they don't have the cojones to even dare to try it. They pick their battles.

The bitter truth is the Giro has not influence on him.
And 'all year that goes slowly. . In February, when he won in Andalucia he has produced 5.7 w / kg on the climb. In may, at the Giro on Mortirolo , the same values and the other day on the Pierre also.
Always about 5.7 w / kg, it is clear that Alberto is the problem, not the Giro. The difference is that now struggle with Froome and Quintana, while in the Giro there were Aru and Landa who was stopped by the team.
This probably is not a so good year , as 2010

His 2010 level would have been enough to smoke both Froome and Quintana though. He would've never been dropped, that's for sure.

And yeah, because he is supposed to be as strong in February as he is the Tour, right ? Plus, it was NOT 5.7 but 5.99 w/kg up hazallanas.

He's been really good in february, better than 2014. And then he took it easy for double purposes that's why he was off in both Tirreno and Catalunya.

Then he clearly said he was not in top top form for the Giro to be able to be good at the Tour but you can see it clearly didn't work.

Now if he didn't aim for the double, the build up would've been entirely different and we would've seen a completely different Contador. The fact that he was chasing and thinking double all season has affected his performances overall.

 

[BlurryVII]

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I would love to see Quintana and Froome going to the Giro next year... then face Contador in top shape at the Tour. Would be enlightening to see !

Edit: Unfortunately, they don't have the cojones to even dare to try it. They pick their battles.

Uhh. The best-of-the-best compete for Overall @ the Tour. The best of the rest for the Giro. The Vuelta is the 'last chance dance' for favorites salvaging their season or super domestiques on a good year. Like Roberto Heras, with his 4 Vuelta crowns. So no, you AREN'T going to see Qunitana or Froome contest the Giro. At least not until they are past their prime.

Of course, that's why Quintana went for Giro - Vuelta last year. Dumb kid.

 

[dacooley]

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I would love to see Quintana and Froome going to the Giro next year... then face Contador in top shape at the Tour. Would be enlightening to see !

Edit: Unfortunately, they don't have the cojones to even dare to try it. They pick their battles.

maybe you gotta give them a couple of years. contador didn't aim the giro-tour until he had 5 gt victories in the bag.

 

[Jspear]

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I would love to see Quintana and Froome going to the Giro next year... then face Contador in top shape at the Tour. Would be enlightening to see !

Edit: Unfortunately, they don't have the cojones to even dare to try it. They pick their battles.

Uhh. The best-of-the-best compete for Overall @ the Tour. The best of the rest for the Giro. The Vuelta is the 'last chance dance' for favorites salvaging their season or super domestiques on a good year. Like Roberto Heras, with his 4 Vuelta crowns. So no, you AREN'T going to see Qunitana or Froome contest the Giro. At least not until they are past their prime.

You put to much stock in the Tour. Some great cyclist only want to do Tour. Other great cyclist want to have wins in all 3 gt's.

 

[Brod710]

He is getting better. I'm glad he tried the double but he should focus on the Tour next year. I'm pretty confident he can win it one more time.

 

[Jelantik]

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As a first and foremost a cycling fan and decidedly one of the Alberto CN family I would prefer he gets a podium. To ride 3 straight GTs and end with 1st-1st-3rd is nothing to sneeze at in the annuls of cycling history.

At this point unless there is some significant improvement a kamikaze attack will net him the same thing it got Il Pirata. Now that was embarressing . But if he can go kamikaze and win a stage that will be totally cool and the best we can expect along with a 3rd.

Meanwhile Bala looks strong, I hope he tanks, and you all know I Do Like Bala!

I'm rooting for the same thing for AC. Froome today didn't look invincible either. At one time he chased quintana like mad,.. he stood.. violently throwing his bike left to right, pretty funny... kinda like tommy v, w/o the tongue . If like most of the world think froome is going to fade on the Alps, Contador better get his form trajecting upward on time for the third week. Other wise he won't be taking advantage of it. (still he won't winning it, but the sight of him passing Froome like last Vuelta.. is sweet like a buttah'..

 

[chiocciolis_calves]

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I would love to see Quintana and Froome going to the Giro next year... then face Contador in top shape at the Tour. Would be enlightening to see !

Edit: Unfortunately, they don't have the cojones to even dare to try it. They pick their battles.

Uhh. The best-of-the-best compete for Overall @ the Tour. The best of the rest for the Giro. The Vuelta is the 'last chance dance' for favorites salvaging their season or super domestiques on a good year. Like Roberto Heras, with his 4 Vuelta crowns. So no, you AREN'T going to see Qunitana or Froome contest the Giro. At least not until they are past their prime.

Oh, good Lord, I haven't seen a post like this since the Armstrong fanboys were posting during his glory days.