Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[LaFlorecita]

Nothing wrong with occasionally showing a bit of passion... more than 5 posts tends to send many into panic though...

So there are still some nice people on here. Thanks

Any more from Alberto on the decision to forgo 1 day races this season? Team, points, personal choice?

Personal choice I guess and of course they have other riders who can do well.

Don't know about that, I have yet to find a civilized court that would punish someone so greatly after they conclude he is not guilty of the charges.

Good luck with that

ps don't go there, you'll have half the forum jumping on you lol

 

[T-Nielsen]

Lets get this back on track...

So... Will Contador attack the first time up Alpe D or will Andy with Contador following, or will they only grind Skys faces on the hairpins once.

and here are some more s s's and some more ' ' 's. Put them where they are needed.

 

[ILovecycling]

Lets get this back on track...

So... Will Contador attack the first time up Alpe D or will Andy with Contador following, or will they only grind Skys faces on the hairpins once.

and here are some more s s's and some more ' ' 's. Put them where they are needed.

I think first attack will be on Ax3,it will be first test against Froome(Alberto doesnt know what to expect).The big 'full gas' attack should be on Ventoux with dropping all,stage victory and pistol shot

to bolded
Nice

 

[El Pistolero]

Not guilty? He had a prohibited substance in his blood.

CAS verdict says he did not take the substance to enhance his performance.

It's like prosecuting someone for murder when he acted in self-defense.

 

[theyoungest]

I don't see the analogy, but anyway. You're not allowed to have clenbuterol in your body, one way or another. Too bad if you do.

 

[El Pistolero]

I don't see the analogy, but anyway. You're not allowed to have clenbuterol in your body, one way or another. Too bad if you do.

You're not allowed to take someone else's life, too bad if you do.

That's a very black and white opinion you have about the legal system. I hope you never accidentally run into some trouble then.

Fact of the matter remains that CAS prosecuted someone who they didn't think was guilty. Find me one civilized court that does that.

 

[Miburo]

CAS verdict says he did not take the substance to enhance his performance.

It's like prosecuting someone for murder when he acted in self-defense.

It's ridiculous: 95% of the people who watch cycling prob don't even know that.

Anyways Contador couldn't provide sufficient evidence that he was not guilty and the rules laid down that he was assumed to be guilty without them actually being able to prove that he was guilty of using doping.

If he would have gone to the ECHR he would have won the case 100%. This goes in against against the presumption of innocence which is pretty much the foundation of each state but which cycling completely ignores.

I guess Contador didn't wanna bother, besides it would have taken months, maybe even years.

 

[LaFlorecita]

albertocontador 1 hour 16 mins ago Twitter
Hoy toco paseo con "Tour",aqui el campeon.Today has been a walk with "Tour".Here,the champion

 

[T-Nielsen]

albertocontador 1 hour 16 mins ago Twitter
Hoy toco paseo con "Tour",aqui el campeon.Today has been a walk with "Tour".Here,the champion

Never heard of pants ?

 

[T-Nielsen]

I think first attack will be on Ax3,it will be first test against Froome(Alberto doesnt know what to expect).The big 'full gas' attack should be on Ventoux with dropping all,stage victory and pistol shot

to bolded
Nice

I have not studied the route (I know, HUGE flaw) but is Ax3 the first major mountain. It would fit with Contadors normal approach. Just hit them as early as you can and leave them fighting for second.

 

[LaFlorecita]

never heard of pants ?

? ?

 

[LaFlorecita]

Never heard of pants ?

What do you mean?

 

[T-Nielsen]

What do you mean?

Its just sitting there with everything out.

 

[biopass]

I have not studied the route (I know, HUGE flaw) but is Ax3 the first major mountain. It would fit with Contadors normal approach. Just hit them as early as you can and leave them fighting for second.

Same approach SKY used this year. Gonna be fun to watch Rogers pulling Contador, Froome, Wiggins and every other contender for the overall victory.

 

[Dedelou]

It's ridiculous: 95% of the people who watch cycling prob don't even know that.

Anyways Contador couldn't provide sufficient evidence that he was not guilty and the rules laid down that he was assumed to be guilty without them actually being able to prove that he was guilty of using doping.

If he would have gone to the ECHR he would have won the case 100%. This goes in against against the presumption of innocence which is pretty much the foundation of each state but which cycling completely ignores.

I guess Contador didn't wanna bother, besides it would have taken months, maybe even years.

wait, wait. Isn't CAS an arbitration court? presumption of innocence is not the consideration at that point. Contador had already being "cleared" by his national federation when UCI brought the case to CAS who had to decide if UCI objections were valid. They did and Contador at that point choose to not pursue the matter in other venues. I am not even sure he could have. We know the rest and can't change it. To me it will remain a case of being victimized

 

[hayzer114]

Contador will obviously lead the tour team, but what will the make up of the team be. Contador, Krueizeger, Roche, Roger,CAS, ?????

 

[Panda Claws]

Contador will obviously lead the tour team, but what will the make up of the team be. Contador, Krueizeger, Roche, Roger,CAS, ?????

Noval.

(10 char)

 

[LaFlorecita]

Contador will obviously lead the tour team, but what will the make up of the team be. Contador, Krueizeger, Roche, Roger,CAS, ?????

Noval, hernandez, morkov and Paulinho is my guess

A pretty strong team for the tt

 

[ferryman]

Lets get this back on track...

So... Will Contador attack the first time up Alpe D or will Andy with Contador following, or will they only grind Skys faces on the hairpins once.

and here are some more s s's and some more ' ' 's. Put them where they are needed.

I can't see anything other than tempo up the Alpe first time up Maybe a bit of softening up with team mates flying up the road. The 2nd time up will see the fireworks

 

[Siriuscat]

I can't see anything other than tempo up the Alpe first time up Maybe a bit of softening up with team mates flying up the road. The 2nd time up will see the fireworks

Balls out attack down off the Sarenne, Abandony left floundering.....

Attacks will start on the Paliheres to soften things up Ax3 not much of a finish but nice all the same don't see big margins. Ventoux will be immense if someone goes early, get CAS in the break! Semnoz might be brilliant but it'll probably be over by then

 

[Publicus]

wait, wait. Isn't CAS an arbitration court? presumption of innocence is not the consideration at that point. Contador had already being "cleared" by his national federation when UCI brought the case to CAS who had to decide if UCI objections were valid. They did and Contador at that point choose to not pursue the matter in other venues. I am not even sure he could have. We know the rest and can't change it. To me it will remain a case of being victimized

CAS can (and did) consider a case of first impression, so they weighed the facts of the case and not simply whether there was procedural/substantive errors made by RFEC during the initial proceeding. Quirky, yes, but those are the rules of this particular road.

 

[Fidolix]

Saxo´s new jersey, not much difference.

http://teamsaxobanktinkoffbank.com/gallery_start.asp?gal_cat_id=157&gal_pic_id=8307

 

[Carols]

Saxo´s new jersey, not much difference.

htt://teamsaxobanktinkoffbank.com/gallery_start.asp?gal_cat_id=157&gal_pic_id=8308p

More yellow on the front, no yellow on the back. I miss the eagle!

 

[hayzer114]

Do all of the riders have the red/pink and yellow bands on their jersey or is it just Contador. I actually think it is a good idea that Grand Tour winners can have something to identify them as former winners on their Jerseys. Roche will have the Irish Tricolour on his sleeves also i assume?

 

[Fidolix]

Do all of the riders have the red/pink and yellow bands on their jersey or is it just Contador. I actually think it is a good idea that Grand Tour winners can have something to identify them as former winners on their Jerseys. Roche will have the Irish Tricolour on his sleeves also i assume?

The stripes is on all jerseys.
Heres more pics, including the US national jersey
http://www.ciclismoblog.it/news/7218/team-saxo-tinkoff-svelata-la-nuova-maglia-per-il-2013/