Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

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No_Balls said:
ad9898 said:
Really looking forward to today. Think Froome for the win but I really hope that Contador can turn back the clock. The good thing is today for the first time in years we're going to see him with no excuses. He's not crashed like 2014-2016, he's got no Giro in his legs like 2011/2015, his form is much better than 2013, he's got a good team who are totally committed to him, he's had rest, his weight couldn't be any lower, no knobhead team owner etc....This is it, if he's not got it today, we can conclude that his decline is certain and we'll have to reminisce on a great champion who has entertained us for a decade with the most stylish and inspirational victories of the modern era

I think he would still have a Giro/Vuelta in him depending on the competition

I agree with this. There is some question mark about his form this early (as im expecting a slightly better level for the second and third week) but today should give us a clearer picture then we have had for years.

Contador himself hinted about 2014 levels in numbers so the bar is set pretty high.

Well, he is not in 2014 shape. If he was, he would have held Porte's wheel on stage 3 easily. Without a grimmace even.
 
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bajbar said:
No_Balls said:
ad9898 said:
Really looking forward to today. Think Froome for the win but I really hope that Contador can turn back the clock. The good thing is today for the first time in years we're going to see him with no excuses. He's not crashed like 2014-2016, he's got no Giro in his legs like 2011/2015, his form is much better than 2013, he's got a good team who are totally committed to him, he's had rest, his weight couldn't be any lower, no knobhead team owner etc....This is it, if he's not got it today, we can conclude that his decline is certain and we'll have to reminisce on a great champion who has entertained us for a decade with the most stylish and inspirational victories of the modern era

I think he would still have a Giro/Vuelta in him depending on the competition

I agree with this. There is some question mark about his form this early (as im expecting a slightly better level for the second and third week) but today should give us a clearer picture then we have had for years.

Contador himself hinted about 2014 levels in numbers so the bar is set pretty high.

Well, he is not in 2014 shape. If he was, he would have held Porte's wheel on stage 3 easily. Without a grimmace even.

Yeah, i mean, the Contador i used to know wouldnt say anything regarding his form and if he did he would be unsure of it (meaning it was lethal). But having said that i wouldnt make any assumptions about current level from that little blip.

Didnt look very convincing though.
 
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Valv.Piti said:
The hope should be that he will be better than 2015 and 2016 (thats hard to judge tho), not that necessarily is at 2014 level. I think he can win the Tour with less, depending of how well Porte and Froomey are going.
Am I the only one who thinks he could have won in 2016 without the crashes and that he doesn't stand a chance this year?
 
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Forever The Best said:
Valv.Piti said:
The hope should be that he will be better than 2015 and 2016 (thats hard to judge tho), not that necessarily is at 2014 level. I think he can win the Tour with less, depending of how well Porte and Froomey are going.
Am I the only one who thinks he could have won in 2016 without the crashes and that he doesn't stand a chance this year?

Yes you are
 
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ad9898 said:
Really looking forward to today. Think Froome for the win but I really hope that Contador can turn back the clock. The good thing is today for the first time in years we're going to see him with no excuses. He's not crashed like 2014-2016, he's got no Giro in his legs like 2011/2015, his form is much better than 2013, he's got a good team who are totally committed to him, he's had rest, his weight couldn't be any lower, no knobhead team owner etc....This is it, if he's not got it today, we can conclude that his decline is certain and we'll have to reminisce on a great champion who has entertained us for a decade with the most stylish and inspirational victories of the modern era

I think he would still have a Giro/Vuelta in him depending on the competition

Great post and I agree completely. I think he will lose 10-20 seconds and we will all continue to hope he will peak later in the race. I'm nervous, but hopeful. Go Alberto!
 
I had him as the nr 1 fav for the 2016 TDF and I think he would have been the winner without the crashes but this year I'm not giving him any chance. He didn't look very strong in spring and was crappy in Dauphine.
So, him crashing in 2016 instead of in 2017 is horrible because while he had a big chance to win last year he has close to zero chances to win this year.
 
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Before the start Alberto's intereview said something that I've prepared myself as best, so we'll see. Hmmm.. reminds me of 2015 answer. Certainly doesn't bode any confidence, makes me really nervous. I think this will be Froome vs Porte show. I really hope that Aru, Bardet, Martin will spoil the party. Otherwise this is just another demolition derby by Sky team again
 
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I'm surprised you guys haven't realised by now that he isn't a top tier rider anymore. A realistic goal might be 5th or 6th. It's very hard to see him finishing above Aru and Bardet. The podium is not realistic.
 
Perfect day from my perspective. Yeah he lost 6 sec but wasn't that what we expected? Bounced back from cracking and had a small dig at the end. The high MT stages will of course suit him better. Podium still very much in reach