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don't worry for contador not winnig the sage he will give his all to win one of the three remaining stage , i think he wants to win the very last one on angliru
Maybe I'm a little selfish but I just want to experience the joy of seeing him win one last time, and I want him to experience it as well, he really deserves it after so many close calls this yearBlanco said:And when did he played smart?LaFlorecita said:Oh, he will try tomorrow for sure, hopefully he'll be smart on Saturday and wait for Angliru, if he goes from far on that stage it's game over.Krzysztof_O said:Great performance by Alberto! It almost felt like good old times. Hopefully he'll win his stage at this year's race. Who knows, maybe he will try some crazy long range attack?Of course he's going from far out on Saturday, I'm hoping already from Cobertoria. He wants the whole thing, he raced like that his whole career, so why would he change that on his last real stage. He doesn't want a stage, or a podium. If they come, good. Excellent! But he wants a real deal, he wants to go as one of the greats, and today he saw that he can drop them all. The temptation is just too big, I'm banking on him to go from a far!
Arredondo said:Great performance. Best climbing performance since Ordizia or Courchevel '14
But let's wait till Angliru. The past years he performs better on really steep, somewhat shorter climbs and in TT's, then on long hard climbs. So maybe he will get dropped by the likes of Lopez and Nibali on Saturday.
But he leaves through the front door for sure. And that's the only way to end for such a great champion.
He could have gotten those euros from Trek... he's made his decision, unfortunately for us, and he seems to be happy with it.Puccini said:Arredondo said:Great performance. Best climbing performance since Ordizia or Courchevel '14
But let's wait till Angliru. The past years he performs better on really steep, somewhat shorter climbs and in TT's, then on long hard climbs. So maybe he will get dropped by the likes of Lopez and Nibali on Saturday.
But he leaves through the front door for sure. And that's the only way to end for such a great champion.
All the 2014 season was exceptional with Tirreno, Pais Vasco, Dauphiné or Vuelta a España .... several days of Giro 2015 and the prologue of Dauphiné 2016...but maybe the level of today is style 2014, yes keep it until Madrid everything can happen
(someone should offer a few million euros for him to continue at least in 2018 ... his level is exceptional)
I wish he would have ridden Giro Vuelta from 2015 onwards. He would have faced derision for ducking the tougher competition at the Tour, but it would have been worth it to challenge Merckx's record, albeit unofficially.ruby said:i guess you don't watch Alberto for consistency- in this race alone there has often been a 'good' day followed by a ahem-'recovery' day, so i'm trying to enjoy the fun parts without expecting a podium- just to see him in this form after the last few tours is great
LaFlorecita said:He could have gotten those euros from Trek... he's made his decision, unfortunately for us, and he seems to be happy with it.Puccini said:Arredondo said:Great performance. Best climbing performance since Ordizia or Courchevel '14
But let's wait till Angliru. The past years he performs better on really steep, somewhat shorter climbs and in TT's, then on long hard climbs. So maybe he will get dropped by the likes of Lopez and Nibali on Saturday.
But he leaves through the front door for sure. And that's the only way to end for such a great champion.
All the 2014 season was exceptional with Tirreno, Pais Vasco, Dauphiné or Vuelta a España .... several days of Giro 2015 and the prologue of Dauphiné 2016...but maybe the level of today is style 2014, yes keep it until Madrid everything can happen
(someone should offer a few million euros for him to continue at least in 2018 ... his level is exceptional)
He gained time on all of his rivals in the gc. I really wouldn't call that a waste of energy. He was instrumental in putting Froome and some of his opponents in the hurt locker to limit their losses. They all know how dangerous he can be and just the thought of him being up the road creating havoc has to be not only physically draining but mentally as well. I think from our own personal perspectives we may see some of his actions as wasteful but for him it's just racing and enjoying these last few days as a professional. His idea of enjoying himself is being on the attack seeing what can happen as a consequence. He is ending his career striking fear into his rivals because they don't know if they might blow up or make a mistake (ala Froome's 2 consecutive crashes in a fit of panic) in their efforts to contain him. I can imagine that all the support that he receives on these final mountainous climbs gives him extra strength to push harder.LaFlorecita said:Just a waste of energy. I hope he doesn't waste more energy tomorrow so he has at least a remote chance of winning on Saturday.Forever The Best said:Anyways, probably what Contador did today won't change anything, no stage win, and no movement in GC either.![]()
I'm looking at it as the race within the race. No, he did not win the stage but the race between his gc rivals, he busted all of their derrieres. Many talk of riders being conservative to protect their gc positions and if that was the case then they all failed miserably. Contador may not have changed his gc position but he has put a sense of panic into all of his rivals with today's performance if he wasn't doing that already. He has multiple times altered the landscape of a race either to his own advantage with an ultimate victory or by way of creating chaos that left what seemed like a definite victory for a rival, making it into a vastly disappointing defeat.LaFlorecita said:His attack in Paris-Nice this year was easily more memorable. If he had won here, this would have just edged it out, but when you strip it of all the emotional value it was just a 2nd row GC contender attacking on the final climb with a breakaway rider staying away. That happens quite often, what he did in Paris-Nice was one of a kind.DFA123 said:Yep. And considering he hasn't won a stage this year, it's comfortably his best and most memorable performance of the season for me.Climber123 said:This is better than many other stage wins. It was epic and he actually properly smoked the other GC guys.
He put a minute into Froome on a GT mountain stage. That doesn't happen every day.
Those three consecutive (historical) Colladas are lost for Alberto ... there is no respite and he knows it from very young to perfection; in a way and especially without heat and rainy weather can be a perfect scenario to continue reducing its difference with the leader... and perhaps to eliminate rivals.telencefalus said:don't know if someone post it but Tomorrow stage has same 45 km of fuente de stage
SEEMS promising , don't have too hype you could be disappointedPuccini said:Those three consecutive (historical) Colladas are lost for Alberto ... there is no respite and he knows it from very young to perfection; in a way and especially without heat and rainy weather can be a perfect scenario to continue reducing its difference with the leader... and perhaps to eliminate rivals.telencefalus said:don't know if someone post it but Tomorrow stage has same 45 km of fuente de stage
It can be very similar to the stage of Paris - Nice of the last day in which so many times he has attacked (at least in 3 or 4 editions)
Stages very interesting the one of Santo Toribio .....
I don't think it's selfish, because ultimately that's what he wants also but as someone else posted I'm just happy that he's going out with guns blazing, leaving nothing on the road. Like Sinatra sang: "I did it my way!"LaFlorecita said:Maybe I'm a little selfish but I just want to experience the joy of seeing him win one last time, and I want him to experience it as well, he really deserves it after so many close calls this yearBlanco said:And when did he played smart?LaFlorecita said:Oh, he will try tomorrow for sure, hopefully he'll be smart on Saturday and wait for Angliru, if he goes from far on that stage it's game over.Krzysztof_O said:Great performance by Alberto! It almost felt like good old times. Hopefully he'll win his stage at this year's race. Who knows, maybe he will try some crazy long range attack?Of course he's going from far out on Saturday, I'm hoping already from Cobertoria. He wants the whole thing, he raced like that his whole career, so why would he change that on his last real stage. He doesn't want a stage, or a podium. If they come, good. Excellent! But he wants a real deal, he wants to go as one of the greats, and today he saw that he can drop them all. The temptation is just too big, I'm banking on him to go from a far!
but if he attacks from far on Saturday, of course he won't win on Angliru, he'll blow up. It's likely anyway, but almost inevitable if he goes on Cobertoria
Same. Still really disappointed, I don't think I'll sleep well tonight. Last night it suddenly hit me that there were only 5 stages left in his career and as you can imagine, it didn't make me very happyMatteo. said:I'm still sorry that He has not won. maybe it was the last chance
why be so disappointed , his last 3 true stages will be a good show be positiveLaFlorecita said:Same. Still really disappointed, I don't think I'll sleep well tonight. Last night it suddenly hit me that there were only 5 stages left in his career and as you can imagine, it didn't make me very happyMatteo. said:I'm still sorry that He has not won. maybe it was the last chance![]()
I recognize that in the last few days I did not care much about his whitdrawal, thinking it was a natural thing . But this show reminded me that he will leave an unmistakable void.LaFlorecita said:Same. Still really disappointed, I don't think I'll sleep well tonight. Last night it suddenly hit me that there were only 5 stages left in his career and as you can imagine, it didn't make me very happyMatteo. said:I'm still sorry that He has not won. maybe it was the last chance![]()
At least it's better to retire while showing you're best climbing legs in 3 years, then to retire the way he rode in, for example, the Tour.LaFlorecita said:Same. Still really disappointed, I don't think I'll sleep well tonight. Last night it suddenly hit me that there were only 5 stages left in his career and as you can imagine, it didn't make me very happyMatteo. said:I'm still sorry that He has not won. maybe it was the last chance![]()
that could be true but remember that crashes affect him badlyValv.Piti said:Lets see how he fares on Saturday, but I find it interesting he is better here than at the Tour. Red Rick will get on me for this, but yes, we saw his real level in the Tour and it wasn't great. For example, he was the 8th best on Planche des Belles Filles, a stage that suited him well and was running on empty against 2nd and 3rd tier riders on Galibier (after a fast ascent Croix de Fer, yes). I honestly think he messed his prep up ahead of the Tour big time.