Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

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I think it is an awesome opportunity and undertaking! It is a climb you can walk up, you don't need all the mountain gear and climbing skills. Any fit person with the time, dollars and desire can walk up it. I wish I could go.

EDIT: I just converted meters to feet. That mountain is over 19K feet up, Holy Crap. I've hiked at 10K (3K meters) but 19K wow that is a task!
 
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everything for some media attention I guess.
Perfect place to dissappear off the face of the earth. This is no clinic relation, because anyone can go and test them there... Enjoy the journey, they are not hiding. ;)
 
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Froome at 100% is better than Contador in opinion. Contador cant drop Froome if he has 2013 Tour form, no one in the world can.

This Giro-Tour double attempt gives him the Giro for sure and the rest is gravy. I can not see him beating Froome at the Tour assuming no crashes and a good lead up. We will see. The unknown here is, will Froome ever regain that 2013 form? Its not a given. Bottom line, its hard to imagine Contador winning the Giro and being stronger at the Tour.
 
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Froome at 100% is better than Contador in opinion. Contador cant drop Froome if he has 2013 Tour form, no one in the world can.

This Giro-Tour double attempt gives him the Giro for sure and the rest is gravy. I can not see him beating Froome at the Tour assuming no crashes and a good lead up. We will see. The unknown here is, will Froome ever regain that 2013 form? Its not a given. Bottom line, its hard to imagine Contador winning the Giro and being stronger at the Tour.

What utter crap .............................
 
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Mick:
"But I have got some general ideas. I would like to do the Giro/Tour again. I really did enjoy that this year. As a rider I have always performed very well in May. I would definitely like to go back to the Giro, and Alberto is very keen. And we have a job still to complete at the Tour."

They are serious about the Giro-Tour double ?:confused:
 
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arvc40 said:
What utter crap .............................

Just ignore him, fake Contador fan always praising and overrating Froome in each one of his posts.

LaFlorecita said:
Mick:


They are serious about the Giro-Tour double ?:confused:

...but they've always been serious.. :confused:
 
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LaFlorecita said:
Mick:
"But I have got some general ideas. I would like to do the Giro/Tour again. I really did enjoy that this year. As a rider I have always performed very well in May. I would definitely like to go back to the Giro, and Alberto is very keen. And we have a job still to complete at the Tour."

They are serious about the Giro-Tour double ?:confused:

Of course they are serious. Why wouldn't they be? Just because something is difficult doesn't mean it can't be done!
 
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Red Rick said:
That's some altitude training:eek:

It won't be much for training, since it is a 1-2 day hike up to altitude, that's it. Not like they can ride up and down it!

I think the purpose is team building with a bit more training relevance than flopping around in icy water.
 
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roberttazman said:
It won't be much for training, since it is a 1-2 day hike up to altitude, that's it. Not like they can ride up and down it!

I think the purpose is team building with a bit more training relevance than flopping around in icy water.

I'm no doctor but the last thing Contador needs, surely, is hiking up one of the world's biggest mountains with a dodgy knee!! Flopping about in icy water sounds a far better option to me;) But I love the madness of it all:)
 
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ferryman said:
I'm no doctor but the last thing Contador needs, surely, is hiking up one of the world's biggest mountains with a dodgy knee!! Flopping about in icy water sounds a far better option to me;) But I love the madness of it all:)

Knee is the least of his worries (though I agree - rocky steep descent will definitely put unnecessary pressure on the knee).

Contador should not do it, period. Altitude - even much lower altitudes than 19,000+ foot, are a well-established trigger for seizures and cerebral edema. Isn't he on epilepsy medication post his aneurysm surgery? His trigger threshold will be way lower than a 'normal' person, and these kind of altitudes are enough for someone without epilepsy to have a seizure and suffer potentially fatal edema/stroke. And whilst Kenya isn't the back of beyond it once was, I for one, would not like to have emergency brain surgery there.

I'm all for fun team-building high jinks but this seems a step too far in the circs.
 
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It was mentioned in the article that Riis knew not everyone would finish it. If he is going to do it, hopefully the team management and doctor's along with AC at least know when to call it quits.
 
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Jspear said:
It was mentioned in the article that Riis knew not everyone would finish it. If he is going to do it, hopefully the team management and doctor's along with AC at least know when to call it quits.

But if you're trying to build team cohesion, having an endeavour which your team leader can participate in without putting themselves at unnecessary risk would seem a wiser choice. I'm all for a spot of jeopardy and challenge, but this seems a bit dumb.
 
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Jspear said:
It was mentioned in the article that Riis knew not everyone would finish it. If he is going to do it, hopefully the team management and doctor's along with AC at least know when to call it quits.

Hmm.. I don't know about that. Contador is known for always pushing the boundary.

I'm for one, find it was quite intriguing to climb kilimanjaro. But to me africa isn't a good place to do some camp. Forget about Ebola, but Africa is known of all kind of insect bite that can leave you with god knows what worm inside your body. Getting altitude sickness seems to me a better choices than getting this little worm in your body incubated without you knowing it or without a symptom of sickness. Not when you have the world best top riders in your team with a gigantic goal for next season. You don't want them to go home suddenly tired and never know what causing it. At least with altitude sickness, you can feel the symtom and sees it. With this worm, you don't even know it. Isn't that Froome getting Bilharzia from swimming or something? And took him 2+ years to get ride of it. That scares me the most.

maybe they should consider patagonia or something :D
 
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Electress said:
But if you're trying to build team cohesion, having an endeavour which your team leader can participate in without putting themselves at unnecessary risk would seem a wiser choice. I'm all for a spot of jeopardy and challenge, but this seems a bit dumb.

Jelantik said:
Hmm.. I don't know about that. Contador is known for always pushing the boundary.

I'm for one, find it was quite intriguing to climb kilimanjaro. But to me africa isn't a good place to do some camp. Forget about Ebola, but Africa is known of all kind of insect bite that can leave you with god knows what worm inside your body. Getting altitude sickness seems to me a better choices than getting this little worm in your body incubated without you knowing it or without a symptom of sickness. Not when you have the world best top riders in your team with a gigantic goal for next season. You don't want them to go home suddenly tired and never know what causing it. At least with altitude sickness, you can feel the symtom and sees it. With this worm, you don't even know it. Isn't that Froome getting Bilharzia from swimming or something? And took him 2+ years to get ride of it. That scares me the most.

maybe they should consider patagonia or something :D

Oh I agree with you both: I'm just saying that if it has already been established that AC is going to do this, then all we can hope for is that they at least use some wisdom and caution as far as how hard they push AC (or how hard he pushes himself.)
 

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BlurryVII said:
Just ignore him, fake Contador fan always praising and overrating Froome in each one of his posts.



...but they've always been serious.. :confused:

Yeah, since the thread was created to overrate Contador and underrate others. Everyone who's not in the boat are trolls. Go ahead.
 
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Electress said:
Knee is the least of his worries (though I agree - rocky steep descent will definitely put unnecessary pressure on the knee).

Contador should not do it, period. Altitude - even much lower altitudes than 19,000+ foot, are a well-established trigger for seizures and cerebral edema. Isn't he on epilepsy medication post his aneurysm surgery? His trigger threshold will be way lower than a 'normal' person, and these kind of altitudes are enough for someone without epilepsy to have a seizure and suffer potentially fatal edema/stroke. And whilst Kenya isn't the back of beyond it once was, I for one, would not like to have emergency brain surgery there.

I'm all for fun team-building high jinks but this seems a step too far in the circs.

Electress said:
But if you're trying to build team cohesion, having an endeavour which your team leader can participate in without putting themselves at unnecessary risk would seem a wiser choice. I'm all for a spot of jeopardy and challenge, but this seems a bit dumb.

Finally someone who agrees.
 
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Jelantik said:
Hmm.. I don't know about that. Contador is known for always pushing the boundary.

I'm for one, find it was quite intriguing to climb kilimanjaro. But to me africa isn't a good place to do some camp. Forget about Ebola, but Africa is known of all kind of insect bite that can leave you with god knows what worm inside your body. Getting altitude sickness seems to me a better choices than getting this little worm in your body incubated without you knowing it or without a symptom of sickness. Not when you have the world best top riders in your team with a gigantic goal for next season. You don't want them to go home suddenly tired and never know what causing it. At least with altitude sickness, you can feel the symtom and sees it. With this worm, you don't even know it. Isn't that Froome getting Bilharzia from swimming or something? And took him 2+ years to get ride of it. That scares me the most.

maybe they should consider patagonia or something :D

they are in africa to find an inner chimp.
 
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Electress said:
And whilst Kenya isn't the back of beyond it once was, I for one, would not like to have emergency brain surgery there.

Nairobi is probably the biggest center of the "development aid industry" - lots of Westerners with cash down there who are living it up with that "aid" money.

Surely you can get quality emergency medical care there. If not, Tinkoff wouldn't be heading there.
 
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I like Oleg/Bjarne but together they are....well....eccentric. Their pushing of boundaries, while sometimes good, could bite em in the ***.

Long story short. I´m not overly confident in this adventure.
 
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18-Valve. (pithy) said:
And yeah, I know Kili is in Tanzania.

I'm not partisan. I wouldn't want emergency brain surgery in Dar-es-Salaam either. But Nairobi is closer, since Kili is on the border.

they are in africa to find an inner chimp.

:D

Surely if they are going for team-building, they are trying to find their 'Troop Moon'?:D

(Maybe Oleg needs to sign them up with Virgin Galactic or have a go on the Vomit Comet to reach 'The Planet of Success and its Three Moons' though he'll have to be careful to avoid 'The Planet of Shadows and the Asteroid Belt')

Holy crapola. Please someone link a parody of this sh*te, because there simply must be one...