Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[LaFlorecita]

I'd say embarrassing

It's embarrassing because it's pathetic or maybe it's pathetic because it's embarrassing

 

[jens_attacks]

a tour win and all those results won't matter

 

[LaFlorecita]

a tour win and all those results won't matter

I don't agree completely but what is worrying is that he is apparently in **** form so a tour win will be very very difficult

These results and no tour win would pretty much be a disaster

 

[Miburo]

A Tour win is all that matters, that's obvious.

Contador is saving that super shape for then, let's hope that was the plan all along.

Maybe he realised that he can't peak twice in 1 year with sky being so superior. He saves that super form for 1 time. I'm hoping that's what it is.

We can all speculate but we'll only know the truth in the first week of july.

As as side-note, guys like quintana and porte for sure were also pretty bad today.

 

[Miburo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szLGtG_yQzo

I bet that if flo sees that right now she's gonna cry

I remembered that he said that he'll try and be better than that shape. Usually contador doesn't talk big at all, let's believe him

 

[Hugo Koblet]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szLGtG_yQzo

I bet that if flo sees that right now she's gonna cry

I remembered that he said that he'll try and be better than that shape. Usually contador doesn't talk big at all, let's believe him

Mother of god, was Contador good back then. He'll be back this summer.

 

[Contadoraus Schlecks]

Mother of god, was Contador good back then. He'll be back this summer.

He was indeed excellent. I'm not sure he would have gained time on Etna with a Sky Train chasing him. Unfortunately they have changed the landscape.

At the moment the only thing that Contador possibly has over Froome in a GT is his recovery abilities over three weeks I.e Froome might falter if pushed every single day by AC

 

[Jelantik]

contador should just skip LBL. it's going to be devastating blow if froome and porte smoke him. He'd better rest and go to altitude training for a month, and come back to surprise us in Dauphene. Let Kreuziger shines... the guy still in best placing even though the parcours won't suit him. Btw, WHERE IS MIC ROGERS???? I only see him twice in the race, the crit and TA? is he in somekind of a time out or something???

 

[Jelantik]

At least he'll try something sunday. Stay positive

And at least i was right, he isn't here to ride for Roman.

Kudos to me

lol sure.. if you say so. He couldn't even ride for roman in the first place anyway.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I agree, Alberto should skip LBL. There is no point in racing it except if he rides for Kreuziger which he won't anyway.

 

[trevim]

Mother of god, was Contador good back then. He'll be back this summer.

Really, this was the best Contador I've ever saw. He could afford making lots of tactical mistakes and he still got away with it because he was so damn strong (see Gardeccia, the amount of pointless and let-me-have-fun attacks is insane).
No it wasn't bad competition, he would have done the same to Evans or Schleck or whoever was in the Tour that year. Maybe Andy could have been under 4 minutes max
Lots of great memories (and a very bad one too, RIP Weylandt) from that Giro: the Montevergine scandal (Alberto will loose this Giro because he almost lost a wheel in a sprint ), Tropea sprint finish, Etna (see above), Rujano's proof of class in Grossglockner, pink jersey in control mode on the freaking Zoncolan, Nieve to Gardeccia marking the most epic day on the mountains I've ever saw, Nevegal fans and last but not the least, the Macunagna class act of Contador, gifting a stage to one of my favourite riders. Oh and of course what we still didn't know to be the birth of the Skyborgs with the magnificent stage win of Kyryenka to Sestrieres.
Great great memories, that's what makes cycling champions at the end of the day.

 

[Miburo]

Really, this was the best Contador I've ever saw. He could afford making lots of tactical mistakes and he still got away with it because he was so damn strong (see Gardeccia, the amount of pointless and let-me-have-fun attacks is insane).
No it wasn't bad competition, he would have done the same to Evans or Schleck or whoever was in the Tour that year. Maybe Andy could have been under 4 minutes max
Lots of great memories (and a very bad one too, RIP Weylandt) from that Giro: the Montevergine scandal (Alberto will loose this Giro because he almost lost a wheel in a sprint ), Tropea sprint finish, Etna (see above), Rujano's proof of class in Grossglockner, pink jersey in control mode on the freaking Zoncolan, Nieve to Gardeccia marking the most epic day on the mountains I've ever saw, Nevegal fans and last but not the least, the Macunagna class act of Contador, gifting a stage to one of my favourite riders. Oh and of course what we still didn't know to be the birth of the Skyborgs with the magnificent stage win of Kyryenka to Sestrieres.
Great great memories, that's what makes cycling champions at the end of the day.

Kyrienka already did it previously, if i recall it correctly in the giro of '08, the stage on firday (last week) where Ricco almost had the leaders jersey after the stage.

 

[Parrulo]

There was only word that came across my mind when i spotted contador all the way back on the mur: "pathetic"

 

[trevim]

Kyrienka already did it previously, if i recall it correctly in the giro of '08, the stage on firday (last week) where Ricco almost had the leaders jersey after the stage.

Yeah, Monte Pora I think.

There was only word that came across my mind when i spotted contador all the way back on the mur: "pathetic"

Please go away, this is a fanboys thread.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Really, this was the best Contador I've ever saw. He could afford making lots of tactical mistakes and he still got away with it because he was so damn strong (see Gardeccia, the amount of pointless and let-me-have-fun attacks is insane).
No it wasn't bad competition, he would have done the same to Evans or Schleck or whoever was in the Tour that year. Maybe Andy could have been under 4 minutes max
Lots of great memories (and a very bad one too, RIP Weylandt) from that Giro: the Montevergine scandal (Alberto will loose this Giro because he almost lost a wheel in a sprint ), Tropea sprint finish, Etna (see above), Rujano's proof of class in Grossglockner, pink jersey in control mode on the freaking Zoncolan, Nieve to Gardeccia marking the most epic day on the mountains I've ever saw, Nevegal fans and last but not the least, the Macunagna class act of Contador, gifting a stage to one of my favourite riders. Oh and of course what we still didn't know to be the birth of the Skyborgs with the magnificent stage win of Kyryenka to Sestrieres.
Great great memories, that's what makes cycling champions at the end of the day.

Yes, I completely agree. Giro 11 (and 10 of course!) was amazing.

 

[The Hitch]

Contador
won a stage + 4th in San Luis
3rd but lots of attacking in Oman and almost won a stage. Looked good.
Barely hang onto 3rd in Tirreno and didnt look great.
Barely hang onto 5th in Pais Vasco and looked ****.
Barely hang onto 34th in Fleche Wallone.

At this rate hell finish like pre 09 wiggins in the Tour and DNF the Vuelta on stage 10 and get dropped 2k into the worlds ttt.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Contador
won a stage + 4th in San Luis
3rd but lots of attacking in Oman and almost won a stage. Looked good.
Barely hang onto 3rd in Tirreno and didnt look great.
Barely hang onto 5th in Pais Vasco and looked ****.
Barely hang onto 34th in Fleche Wallone.

At this rate hell finish like pre 09 wiggins in the Tour and DNF the Vuelta on stage 10 and get dropped 2k into the worlds ttt.

Yes he is getting worse and worse. It frustrates me that I don't know what is going on. Super fast decline? He is not that old

 

[Carols]

Contador
won a stage + 4th in San Luis
3rd but lots of attacking in Oman and almost won a stage. Looked good.
Barely hang onto 3rd in Tirreno and didnt look great.
Barely hang onto 5th in Pais Vasco and looked ****.
Barely hang onto 34th in Fleche Wallone.

At this rate hell finish like pre 09 wiggins in the Tour and DNF the Vuelta on stage 10 and get dropped 2k into the worlds ttt.

Yes he certainly looks to be in a decline of sorts, form going downhill instead of improving Hoping a bit of rest and some good training will rejuvenate him!!!

 

[Carols]

Yes he is getting worse and worse. It frustrates me that I don't know what is going on.

I'm sure it frustrates Him much more than it does you He seems to be grasping for reasons himself

Starting to remind me of LeMond's decline....but we will need a 3 week race to truly see the impact.

 

[Contadoraus Schlecks]

He looks like he has been trying as well. As a result you wonder where any improvement can now come from.

I think if he is to win any more GTs it will be down to circumstance I.e Froome not there. He may choose his GTs for next year on this basis (unless he wins tour this year)

 

[del1962]

He looks like he has been trying as well. As a result you wonder where any improvement can now come from.

I think if he is to win any more GTs it will be down to circumstance I.e Froome not there. He may choose his GTs for next year on this basis (unless he wins tour this year)

He has been ill though, which will have set him back.

 

[ILovecycling]

Yes he is getting worse and worse. It frustrates me that I don't know what is going on. Super fast decline? He is not that old

Its probably Bjarne's plan,he is gonna abandon Dauphine after first mountain stage and then crush everyone in the Tour

 

[LaFlorecita]

He looks like he has been trying as well. As a result you wonder where any improvement can now come from.

I think if he is to win any more GTs it will be down to circumstance I.e Froome not there. He may choose his GTs for next year on this basis (unless he wins tour this year)

I agree, he should aim for il Giro from now on and then also do Vuelta

 

[Miburo]

I agree, he should aim for il Giro from now on and then also do Vuelta

At this rate he should be happy to get a top 10

Let's see what he does sunday, come one there's no way he's gonna ride sunday with that horrible shape we all think he has.

He's gonna be way better sunday. It would be an insult to Contador's integrity as a rider to think otherwise, he's no andy. Then again he already said he was gonna ride LBL, coming back from that wouldn't be appreciated.

Contador
won a stage + 4th in San Luis
3rd but lots of attacking in Oman and almost won a stage. Looked good.
Barely hang onto 3rd in Tirreno and didnt look great.
Barely hang onto 5th in Pais Vasco and looked ****.
Barely hang onto 34th in Fleche Wallone.

At this rate hell finish like pre 09 wiggins in the Tour and DNF the Vuelta on stage 10 and get dropped 2k into the worlds ttt.

Wasn't he 2nd in Oman? He was very good there btw. Then he was on schedule of what he normally is then but afterwards it went downhill...

 

[Jelantik]

Contador
won a stage + 4th in San Luis
3rd but lots of attacking in Oman and almost won a stage. Looked good.
Barely hang onto 3rd in Tirreno and didnt look great.
Barely hang onto 5th in Pais Vasco and looked ****.
Barely hang onto 34th in Fleche Wallone.

At this rate hell finish like pre 09 wiggins in the Tour and DNF the Vuelta on stage 10 and get dropped 2k into the worlds ttt.

I dunno. My guess he might be not taking his winter training seriously. When he left to serve his doping sentences, he was still the best stage racer, and no one can touch him. Even if he wasn't 100%, he still could win. Came july, came the sky with superhuman team. Things changes. When he was back for Vuelta, he didn't win it because he was strong. He won because of pure tactic and smart ride plus lady luck was with him. When he started his campaign in Argentina, he wasn't at his top shape or even on a good base. He probably thought that he would improve and in the past he was still able to smoke his opponent. But to his surprise, the sky superborg was a lot more ready than what his opponent used to be. I have never heard from Alberto's interview about how he worked over the winter last year. I saw him flying all over the world promoting his team (maybe that's the reason). On the other hand, all I hear from Froome and his DS that Froome did the winter training exactly what he was supposed to. Maybe that's the difference between Froome/wiggin and Alberto. Alberto's result is declining, while the superskyborg results is increasing (even their domestique are as good as Alberto). If I see sky team, certainly their 'training method' are working because you see the progression of everyone across the board. And look at saxo?.. none of them are progressing. except roman probably. Mic Rogers? where is he?

So in the past, I remembered that he used to be having a hard time finding challenge because he achieved so much in a young age. Maybe because everything is so easy to achieve. To the point of whenever I watched him racing, I have this air of confidence that he would win it. Now,... I don't see that anymore. So my hope is he might just underestimate his training and hoping that he could improve along the way. (His ex DS Sean Yates said that Alberto can come to the training camp out of shape and he can easily get himself in shape as the training camp moves along) Or he just realized that he needs to be seriously back to the drawing board. Only time can tell how he actually is. If in Dauphene, he can't do much to Froome, then we'll know what happen came in July.