Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[IndianCyclist]

The time bonuses helped and Contador had been off the scene for a while. What surprised me is that Rodriguez actually lost the race after what had happened previously.

I think that surprised everybody. Riis is a very canny strategist and Contador also has very good tactical acumen. The combination is particularly deadly when it comes to winning races. I would not be surprised if they derail the Sky train. But it is different matter altogether to get rid of Froome. They got rid of Purito becuse he isn't good in the flats. But Froome is a very good TTer.

 

[Cimber]

Technically Purito was the first to do it in last year's Vuelta.

Andy has dropped him too once fair and square.

 

[Miburo]

I'll be way better in the tour than i was in the vuelta last year

Contador said that in an interview on tv (sporza). Sky-fans, don't be celebrating yet

 

[ILovecycling]

wtf is Roche doing?Saving for Vuelta?He needs to improve a lot to be a mountain domestique at Tour for Alberto

 

[LaFlorecita]

Contador said that in an interview on tv (sporza). Sky-fans, don't be celebrating yet

Lol I'm quite sure he's just bluffing I think he can't stand the fact that a lot of people think the tour is already over

 

[BRCYC11]

Contador says that he will be at least as good as the previous years

http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=62843

 

[Netserk]

Now that the Dauphine is done I must say that I believe in Alberto. He had a bad day in the ITT, but he was the 2nd strongest climber behind Froome, which was the best I expected him to be.

I think he'll be at least as strong as in '10, and possibly as strong as in '11.

 

[funnie]

in the same interview (sporza) they told:
Contador isn't finished with the tour, and the tour isn't finished with Contador.
The skyborgs better be ready for the battle, cause Alberto will be totally ready!! I believe him, and he will be the winner of the tour...

And to all the Froomers, i refer to a quote from 'Revolver'
in every game and con there's always an opponent, and there's always a victim. The trick is to know when you're the latter, so you can become the former.

 

[Jelantik]

I don't think alberto is known for bluffing. One thing for sure is he always set a target and work very hard to achieve it. He set his target to improve after his bad TT. And he was happy that he achieved that. Unfortunately it's not a target that 'we want'. If he said, he'll be ready for the Tour, you bet he will. winning or loosing is a relative. even if froome is going to win it, he'll have to earn it in a hard way. This year tour is no way close to last year tour.

 

[Netserk]

in the same interview (sporza) they told:
Contador isn't finished with the tour, and the tour isn't finished with Contador.
The skyborgs better be ready for the battle, cause Alberto will be totally ready!! I believe him, and he will be the winner of the tour...

And to all the Froomers, i refer to a quote from 'Revolver'
in every game and con there's always an opponent, and there's always a victim. The trick is to know when you're the latter, so you can become the former.

Alberto is using the formula against Froome

EDIT: Check the quote after 1:30

 

[xrayvision]

Oh my

Not going to argue anymore, just 2 things: riis isn't in the car for saxo so it cant be a fail by riis

You dont even know if Alberto knew he couldnt win

And now I'm done with you. Onto the ignore list you go

I think that is the smartest thing I have ever heard you say, I only wonder why you didn´t do it much sooner.

 

[maxmartin]

Now that the Dauphine is done I must say that I believe in Alberto. He had a bad day in the ITT, but he was the 2nd strongest climber behind Froome, which was the best I expected him to be.

I think he'll be at least as strong as in '10, and possibly as strong as in '11.

Maybe bad day or just take it easy. I believe AV, JR both took it easy in the ITT. It is just not worth the effort in their mind.

 

[Poursuivant]

AC will definitely be stronger at TDF but I still see him losing 2-3 minutes to CF in the TT's. I just can't see him making that up anywhere. Froome looks outstanding in the mountains.

 

[maxmartin]

AC will definitely be stronger at TDF but I still see him losing 2-3 minutes to CF in the TT's. I just can't see him making that up anywhere. Froome looks outstanding in the mountains.

Did you also predict Nibali lose more than 3 minutes to Wiggins in the ITT?

 

[Netserk]

Alberto will lose 1:00-1:30 in the first ITT and win the second

 

[Poursuivant]

Did you also predict Nibali lose more than 3 minutes to Wiggins in the ITT?

AC just lost around 3 minutes to CF in a TT, I think an improved AC to lose 2-3 minutes over 2 TT's is a fair assessment, barring any crashes, injuries etc.

What do you predict?

 

[maxmartin]

AC just lost around 3 minutes to CF in a TT, I think an improved AC to lose 2-3 minutes over 2 TT's is a fair assessment, barring any crashes, injuries etc.

What do you predict?

But that is only 75% AC, I predict AC lose less than 45 seconds in the first TT and win second TT more than 20 seconds. So the total time gap from TT will be around 25 second.

 

[airstream]

Alberto will lose 1:00-1:30 in the first ITT and win the second

These things completely contradict each other. How is it possible to lose a mountain TT, gaining 1'30 in a flat one? At the expense of what?

 

[Netserk]

These things completely contradict each other. How is it possible to lose a mountain TT, gaining 1'30 in a flat one? At the expense of what?

Better recovery, better technical skills and better climber. (Contador is/has)

 

[Miburo]

Better recovery, better technical skills and better climber. (Contador is/has)

and a better riding style, not that it matters but just saying

 

[LaFlorecita]

Alberto said that when he and Froome are both in top condition, they both have a very high tt level.

I don't know, I think his great tt skills are a thing of the past.

Though, this season he hasn't been too bad in the tts and arguably he wasn't in top condition.

 

[LaFlorecita]

But that is only 75% AC, I predict AC lose less than 45 seconds in the first TT and win second TT more than 20 seconds. So the total time gap from TT will be around 25 second.

I think 45s-1 minute in the first tt and 20 seconds in the second. Plus 10-20 in ttt so about 1'30". I don't think he can make up for that in the mountains. I think he'll even lose time. I hope not of course. I can only see two scenarios. It is very close and Alberto wins eventually by a small margin. Or Froome dominates and wins by 3 minutes plus.

 

[Jelantik]

AC will definitely be stronger at TDF but I still see him losing 2-3 minutes to CF in the TT's. I just can't see him making that up anywhere. Froome looks outstanding in the mountains.

Maybe. I don't know if everyone can find the track of Alberto TT's in Dauphine. According to NBC sports commentator, Alberto did lost 1.5 to 3 minutes in Dauphine the year when he won his TDF (2007, 2009, 2010).

 

[xrayvision]

It´s so funny, everybody is talking about AC´s lack of form, lesser TT skills, weaker team, and bla bla bla

Nobody talks about the fact that the Dawg have been in top form the entire season and its more unlikely he can obtain or even progress his form another 5 weeks, especially in the last week of the tour.

If AC can find his 100%, and top the last 2 weeks of the tour, I would say the Dawg is in for some nasty surprises. Listen to the english commentators on Eurosport today was just hilarious, they already gave the tour victory to Froome since AC was no more a threat because of his 10th overall in the Dauphine...

As I read it, Riis have changed AC´s preparation and training, and we will see another AC in the tour, one with more endurance and more speed.

 

[boringboy]

It´s so funny, everybody is talking about AC´s lack of form, lesser TT skills, weaker team, and bla bla bla

Nobody talks about the fact that the Dawg have been in top form the entire season and its more unlikely he can obtain or even progress his form another 5 weeks, especially in the last week of the tour.

If AC can find his 100%, and top the last 2 weeks of the tour, I would say the Dawg is in for some nasty surprises. Listen to the english commentators on Eurosport today was just hilarious, they already gave the tour victory to Froome since AC was no more a threat because of his 10th overall in the Dauphine...

As I read it, Riis have changed AC´s preparation and training, and we will see another AC in the tour, one with more endurance and more speed.

I tend to agree, i will judge AC after the Tour, as i do expect him to keep progressing and form to get stronger, whereas it will be hard to believe Dawg can do a full season in peak form.

Also fully agree on commentators on Eurosport, they are getting a bit of a joke, Sean Kelly is still decent but the rest of them are too one sided.