Teams & Riders Alberto Contador Discussion Thread

[ILovecycling]

You aren't crazy. I saw it as well. You are talking about this one.

the AC sign on the road

 

[LaFlorecita]

the AC sign on the road

 

[Angliru]

The definition of wheelsucking here is very simple:

Don't give turns to Alberto Contador. Everybody who is in his wheel and doesn't immediately go to the front to do the tempo for him=wheelsucker.

Actually Froome was a wheelsucker too today, he should really have given it all for another 200-400 meters to help Contador gain more time to Valverde. Then collapse and lose 30" instead of 15", but that's unimportant. It's about giving turns and riding for Contador. If you don't=wheelsucker.

Froome=cowardly wheelsucker!!!!!

It would probably be easier to type without your thumb in your mouth.

 

[Angliru]

Why not call him a hyena, his win a worthless one etc?
Worthless coward, as I said. Or as the serious guy said, a hypocrite.

Hate will only eat you up inside. Come to the light. Turn that frown upside down and just enjoy the magnificence that is Alberto Contador.

 

[kingjr]

Why do you assume it is Contador-fans who bashed Valverde yesterday? Pitis never been a popular man on these boards.

Valverde has managed to **** off Armstrong-Fans, Vinokourov-Fans and Contador-Fans in the past

That's not bad. I mean, nothing tops Senna-Fans in F1, but for cycling, you can't do much more to be disliked.

 

[Publicus]

AC knows how to read a race AND the other riders. I found interesting the number of people yesterday that was questioning his obsession with Froome, but clearly he saw something we weren't seeing. Beautiful ride today.

 

[No_Balls]

Valverde has managed to **** off Armstrong-Fans, Vinokourov-Fans and Contador-Fans in the past

That's not bad. I mean, nothing tops Senna-Fans in F1, but for cycling, you can't do much more to be disliked.

He's the classical "Jack of many trades, but master of none". Meaning he has the necessary tools to rain on many fanbases parade, given the right circumstances, but lacks that edge to become overly dominant. He's an all-rounder without flair.

In F1 he would be like the professor Alain Prost. Overlooked by the japanese admiration of Sennas kamikaze-attitude. Also a bit like Jalabert who never won the hearts in France over Virenque - but was seen as lacking "panache" in the contest.

You wont ever win a popular contest in cycling if you are seen as one lacking "panache".

 

[The fridge in the blue trees]

Hate will only eat you up inside. Come to the light. Turn that frown upside down and just enjoy the magnificence that is Alberto Contador.

I have no problem with Contador at all. It's the hypocritical hyenas and worthless cowards that I'm calling out (no idea if you're one, in case you are, consider yourself insulted)

 

[Angliru]

I have no problem with Contador at all. It's the hypocritical hyenas and worthless cowards that I'm calling out (no idea if you're one, in case you are, consider yourself insulted)

Actually I was defending Valverde's tactics yesterday. As someone else said he rides to his strengths with the occasional (or frequent) tactical error. There is a cross section of folk here, not just Contador fans, that don't like Valverde and I mean really don't like him and can find absolutely nothing good in anything he does. Anyway, the riders all have their own strategies and they may intersect where they can assist each other but for the most part they have to look out for their own interests and many cn forum members can't see that. They want to be entertained.

 

[Helvellyn]

He's [Valverde?] the classical "Jack of many trades, but master of none".

In F1 he would be like the professor Alain Prost.

Can't agree with either of these examples of "jack of many trades, but master of none". Valverde is a master of hilly classics finishing in uphill sprints. It's been many years since I paid attention to F1, but I seem to remember Prost won 4 world championships which makes him one of the all-time greats - he was also a decent cyclist

 

[jens_attacks]

the AC sign on the road

...angel casero.


sorry for joke, i feel funny tonight lol

alberto was just brilliant today, and then when he flew away like in the best days awesome. i hope he will target another stage win though. and again he should be strong for ancares and castrove because froomey will go at his maximum no doubt

 

[Carols]

Now that we've all calmed down a little, what is with Rovny? Just what Alberto needs losing a team mate when the team is so weak already .

It's a good thing he has a decent gap now!

 

[LaFlorecita]

PS combined classification:

1 Valverde 6 points
2 Contador 7 points

 

[Jack_89]

Thank you gifts that these emotions Alberto

Thanks,thanks and thanks.You have supported me to be in*@lavuelta*and this victory is yours!*

 

[Miburo]

Now that we've all calmed down a little, what is with Rovny? Just what Alberto needs losing a team mate when the team is so weak already .

It's a good thing he has a decent gap now!

Stop whining about his ****ty team, it's getting old. They supported him well today and they did well during the entire vuelta

 

[Futuroscope]

Great job Alberto! He proved me wrong for critcizing his tactics yesterday, he was probably confident he could put some time into Valverde and Rodriguez on a stage such as today (with several hard climbs). This stage would also have suited Quintana well, I'm pretty sure he would have done better than Valverde and Rodriguez did today.

 

[Futuroscope]

How can anyone criticize Alberto's riding today? It was perfectly normal tactics, I won't even bother to comment on it further because such criticism can't be taken seriously.

 

[richwagmn]

Now that we've all calmed down a little, what is with Rovny? Just what Alberto needs losing a team mate when the team is so weak already .

It's a good thing he has a decent gap now!

Rovny lost his head that's for sure. Being removed from the Vuelta is going to be something he'll remember for a long, long time though. Lesson learned as they say.

 

[hfer07]

How can anyone criticize Alberto's riding today? It was perfectly normal tactics, I won't even bother to comment on it further because such criticism can't be taken seriously.

It kind of remains me of 2013 Tirreno Adriatico when Alberto attacked, NIbbs countered and both were up the road, just to be pulled back by SKY right after the Last K mark when Froome summoned the Alien powers & dropped the soul out of both without remorse....

and beyond that- Contador is the current Leader- there is no reason for him to attack earlier-it was well played out & Froome simply didn't have any to answer to when the attack took place- that's racing. Now that's an abysmal difference between what took place today between them and the Covadonga stage when Val-piti shamefully takes time on Contador by wheelsucking the entire climb without pulling a single meter and screwed him at the finish line- BIG DIFFERENCE

 

[Futuroscope]

It kind of remains me of 2013 Tirreno Adriatico when Alberto attacked, NIbbs countered and both were up the road, just to be pulled back by SKY right after the Last K mark when Froome summoned the Alien powers & dropped the soul out of both without remorse....

and beyond that- Contador is the current Leader- there is no reason for him to attack earlier-it was well played out & Froome simply didn't have any to answer to when the attack took place- that's racing. Now that's an abysmal difference between what took place today between them and the Covadonga stage when Val-piti shamefully takes time on Contador by wheelsucking the entire climb without pulling a single meter and screwed him at the finish line- BIG DIFFERENCE

I don't think that what Valverde and Rodriguez was wrong in an unsportsmanlike sense, that is racing. It might have been a tactical mistake on their part but I'm believer in ruthless racing. No gifts, no waiting when the race is on, wheelsuck however much you want/can/are allowed to.

 

[T-Nielsen]

I don't think that what Valverde and Rodriguez was wrong in an unsportsmanlike sense, that is racing. It might have been a tactical mistake on their part but I'm believer in ruthless racing. No gifts, no waiting when the race is on, wheelsuck however much you want/can/are allowed to.

I think we should, as you do, split the critics between the wheelsucker gang, whome I rarely agree with, and those who is upset by tactics. I think Valverde made a tactical mistake, but I have not problem with wheelsucking when it make sence.

 

[ILovecycling]

Great job Alberto! He proved me wrong for critcizing his tactics yesterday, he was probably confident he could put some time into Valverde and Rodriguez on a stage such as today (with several hard climbs). This stage would also have suited Quintana well, I'm pretty sure he would have done better than Valverde and Rodriguez did today.

ehh, its possible he would have been better than froome or ac,so I think its clear he would have been better than Rodriguez and Valverde

 

[LaFlorecita]

Bjarne action shot

 

[ILovecycling]

Bjarne action shot

and the relaxed guy from caja in the background

 

[Jelantik]

Smart ride today by Contador. And great ride by Froome. I don't feel sorry for Valverde. He has his own race tactic, and good luck with that. Alberto has called it yesterday, that it was a missed opportunity not to distance Froome when they were all have a chance. Well, turns out, Froome returned the favor, and only Contador can follow him. It was the best scenario for Contador with Froome was the one who initiated the attack. He doesn't need to wait for those two clowns to jerk him around anymore. Froome attacked and Contador gained time with a timely attack.

Call it what you want. If you have a lead of 1 minute, all you need just wait until the right moment. So great job today by Contador. Clearly Froome's form is getting better. And contador's fear appears to be true. 5 more days to go, the fight isn't finished yet. What a thrilling ending today.