So first Merckx, who claims Froome can't be beaten by Contador at the Tour (he's too old), and now “Monsieur Paris–Roubaix,” Roger De Vlaeminck, says so in today's la Gazzetta dello Sport. Got it Albert.
The Cycling News forum is looking to add some volunteer moderators with Red Rick's recent retirement. If you're interested in helping keep our discussions on track, send a direct message to
In the meanwhile, please use the Report option if you see a post that doesn't fit within the forum rules.
Thanks!
Tonton said:Come on Ray! There's more carbon in your garage than in the mountains of West-Virginia . You know your stuff, no doubt. Just keep it light. The Bertie fans are rabid; he wins, and the discussion is about him vs. Eddy for all-time best. He loses and it's "oh my God, oh my God"...it's a fun thread. It's one of the best threads, with passion and drama...a soap opera .ray j willings said:I'm to scared to post on this thread anymore
All there's to do is to keep it light, be a little sarcastic, and recognize that Bertie's fans won't change. He has a HUGE following, his aggressive style is attractive. Stay cool or stay away. Believe me: the missionary attitude doesn't work on CN forums. So take a back seat and enjoy Bay(Bertie) Watch. Maybe Laflo will come running on the beach in her red bikini .
Who cares. They will just look incredibly stupid this summer.rhubroma said:So first Merckx, who claims Froome can't be beaten by Contador at the Tour (he's too old), and now “Monsieur Paris–Roubaix,” Roger De Vlaeminck, says so in today's la Gazzetta dello Sport. Got it Albert.
LaFlorecita said:Who cares. They will just look incredibly stupid this summer.rhubroma said:So first Merckx, who claims Froome can't be beaten by Contador at the Tour (he's too old), and now “Monsieur Paris–Roubaix,” Roger De Vlaeminck, says so in today's la Gazzetta dello Sport. Got it Albert.
rhubroma said:So first Merckx, who claims Froome can't be beaten by Contador at the Tour (he's too old), and now “Monsieur Paris–Roubaix,” Roger De Vlaeminck, says so in today's la Gazzetta dello Sport. Got it Albert.
rhubroma said:So first Merckx, who claims Froome can't be beaten by Contador at the Tour (he's too old), and now “Monsieur Paris–Roubaix,” Roger De Vlaeminck, says so in today's la Gazzetta dello Sport. Got it Albert.
lenric said:rhubroma said:So first Merckx, who claims Froome can't be beaten by Contador at the Tour (he's too old), and now “Monsieur Paris–Roubaix,” Roger De Vlaeminck, says so in today's la Gazzetta dello Sport. Got it Albert.
It's an opinion. But if the why is age, then it's a very poor argument.
That's the thing with great riders (or footballers, or whatever): just because they were great riders that doesn't mean they will be good trainers, good directors or anything for that matter.
It's funny to seeRed Rick said:If not his form, then he's definitely stepped up his trolling game. Seems to be enjoying himself
whose opinion one should stick to or at least regard really seriously from your perspective?Red Rick said:I don't know why people care so much about what Merckx and de Vlaeminck think. Not like they rode GTs for GC in modern times
dacooley said:whose opinion one should stick to or at least regard really seriously from your perspective?Red Rick said:I don't know why people care so much about what Merckx and de Vlaeminck think. Not like they rode GTs for GC in modern times
That was a joke . But that's how Contador fans over-react all the time. And it's cute. Even if you disagree. It's like Contador is Italian...the drama...betrayals (Lance and the bordure), the misfortune and resurrection (Giro '15 - Mortirolo). It's cool. Gotta love it. Of course he's no Eddy. Merckx simply is the greatest athlete ever: better than Michael Jordan, Carl Lewis, Emil Zatopek, Joe Montana, Pele. It's a shame that worldwide, he is not as recognized as he should be. I saw Eddy Merckx once, riding, exuding something, and no one has that. But let's recognize hat Bertie is a major player...when I go up a climb and lift my arse up the saddle, I have images of Contador, dancing on the pedals. It's something. Then I end up Jan Ullrich, flat on the bike, grinding it out .King Boonen said:Seriously? That's delusional. And Eddy isn't the best
Tonton said:That was a joke . But that's how Contador fans over-react all the time. And it's cute. Even if you disagree. It's like Contador is Italian...the drama...betrayals (Lance and the bordure), the misfortune and resurrection (Giro '15 - Mortirolo). It's cool. Gotta love it. Of course he's no Eddy. Merckx simply is the greatest athlete ever: better than Michael Jordan, Carl Lewis, Emil Zatopek, Joe Montana, Pele. It's a shame that worldwide, he is not as recognized as he should be. I saw Eddy Merckx once, riding, exuding something, and no one has that. But let's recognize hat Bertie is a major player...when I go up a climb and lift my **** up the saddle, I have images of Contador, dancing on the pedals. It's something. Then I end up Jan Ullrich, flat on the bike, grinding it out .King Boonen said:Seriously? That's delusional. And Eddy isn't the best
Tonton said:That was a joke . But that's how Contador fans over-react all the time. And it's cute. Even if you disagree. It's like Contador is Italian...the drama...betrayals (Lance and the bordure), the misfortune and resurrection (Giro '15 - Mortirolo). It's cool. Gotta love it. Of course he's no Eddy. Merckx simply is the greatest athlete ever: better than Michael Jordan, Carl Lewis, Emil Zatopek, Joe Montana, Pele. It's a shame that worldwide, he is not as recognized as he should be. I saw Eddy Merckx once, riding, exuding something, and no one has that. But let's recognize hat Bertie is a major player...when I go up a climb and lift my **** up the saddle, I have images of Contador, dancing on the pedals. It's something. Then I end up Jan Ullrich, flat on the bike, grinding it out .King Boonen said:Seriously? That's delusional. And Eddy isn't the best
ice&fire said:Refering to Merckx, he was the best ever on the bike, but when he opens his mouth he's no better than the average poster here
and yet fans that take it to heart too much.lenric said:ice&fire said:Refering to Merckx, he was the best ever on the bike, but when he opens his mouth he's no better than the average poster here
Opinions are like asses: everyone has one. Problem is that often times some of them are valued way above others, just because its owner was once, for instance, a rider. So the problem isn't really in Eddy, but in all the media.
lenric said:ice&fire said:Refering to Merckx, he was the best ever on the bike, but when he opens his mouth he's no better than the average poster here
Opinions are like asses: everyone has one. Problem is that often times some of them are valued way above others, just because its owner was once, for instance, a rider. So the problem isn't really in Eddy, but in all the media.
Maxiton said:lenric said:ice&fire said:Refering to Merckx, he was the best ever on the bike, but when he opens his mouth he's no better than the average poster here
Opinions are like asses: everyone has one. Problem is that often times some of them are valued way above others, just because its owner was once, for instance, a rider. So the problem isn't really in Eddy, but in all the media.
Eddy said something a year or two ago that I thought really interesting. He said, "Everybody thinks I'm so great because of what I did on the bike when I was young, but, really, I'm not the young man who did all that. I look back on that young man and I don't even know who he was. I know it was supposed to be me but I don't recognize myself in him. I'm not that person anymore."
That said, I don't see how anybody can seriously maintain that the Eddy Merckx of old wasn't the greatest GT rider and bike racer ever, and by a wide margin.
Just to bring this back on topic (see what I did there? ), I'm sure Contador is quite happy with his life, and with his results, more or less, but I'm equally sure he'd much prefer to have been Eddy Merckx, or at least to have the results of Merckx.
blackmamba said:My only point is, and pay close attention now. IF Merckx rode now instead of when he did, he wouldnt have had those results thats all im saying.
Maxiton said:blackmamba said:My only point is, and pay close attention now. IF Merckx rode now instead of when he did, he wouldnt have had those results thats all im saying.
Probably true. We talk about stuff like that in the Clinic all the time.
blackmamba said:Maxiton said:blackmamba said:My only point is, and pay close attention now. IF Merckx rode now instead of when he did, he wouldnt have had those results thats all im saying.
Probably true. We talk about stuff like that in the Clinic all the time.
Cycling is 50 times bigger today than back then and with that its only logically to draw the conclusion that lvl of competition is miles ahead aswell as with the technology etc!