Alberto Contador suspended until August 2012 (loses all results July 2010 - Jan 2012)

[phlatties]

who gives a s**t if contador is guilty or not? "let's not make this a lance thread" are you serious?! does it change the fact that we watch a sport that now lives to go F itself regardless of how that affects itself. some sick-*** peeping toms standing on some sticky floors.

 

[sniper]

http://www.spiegel.de/sport/sonst/0,1518,813601,00.html

German press:

- victory for cycling

Mit dem Urteilsspruch gegen Alberto Contador hat der Sportgerichtshof CAS einiges für die Glaubwürdigkeit des Radsports getan.

- AC's steak-tale too adventurous

So war seit Jahren in der spanischen Pyrenäen-Region kein Clenbuterol-Fall in der Kälbermast mehr aufgetreten - ausgerechnet der jetzt nur noch zweifache Tour-de-France-Sieger soll davon betroffen gewesen sein.

- AC's lawyers could not account for plasticizers

Woher diese Weichmacher stammten, dafür hatten auch Contadors Anwälte letztlich keine schlüssige Erklärung parat.

- RFEC and Spanish politics disgraced by AC ban

Jetzt ist nicht nur der Fahrer bestraft, sondern auch der spanische Verband blamiert.

- LA has better lawyers and better connections to the UCI than AC

Möglicherweise hat Armstrong auch nur bessere Anwälte als der Spanier. In jedem Fall hatte er die besseren Beziehungen zum Radweltverband UCI, dem er großzügige Geldspenden zukommen ließ.

- irony: While the Tour de Mallorca continues without AC, it welcomes the comeback of Valverde.

Die Mallorca-Rundfahrt geht derweil ohne Contador weiter. Die Veranstalter freuen sich stattdessen über ein anderes Aushängeschild. Der spanische Weltklassefahrer Alejandro Valverde feiert bei der Rundfahrt sein Europa-Comeback. Er hat gerade eine 19-monatige Sperre wegen Dopings abgesessen.

 

[LaFlorecita]

http://www.spiegel.de/sport/sonst/0,1518,813601,00.html

German press:

- victory for cycling

- AC's steak-tale too adventurous

- AC's lawyers could not account for plasticizers

- RFEC and Spanish politics disgraced by AC ban

- LA has better lawyers and better connections to the UCI than AC

- irony: While the Tour de Mallorca continues without AC, it welcomes the comeback of Valverde.

The fact that it's German press says enough.

 

[Benotti69]

The fact that it's German press says enough.

Dont get silly. German press blew the story so another doper got done it cycling.

 

[skippy]

El Pistolero is no more ! Perhaps he should have donated a “Drug testing item ” to UCI in the fight against those who take the path of which he has been convicted ?

Wonder what UCI plan to do with the $2.45m that may land on their desk ? Mc Quack has surprised me with the dignity of the press release so far although he could be tired from all the celebrations from Friday’s announcement ? Had the mushroom farmers had their way and the matter gone the other way then he would be sweating bullets right now ! Guess there are some enterprising hacks checking out the empty Champers bottles at a variety of locations .

Those that recall the Redprayerkite item in December by Charles will see that I made comment about the “ Political talking heads ” and the likelihood of their intervention . Blogged about my expectation then and so not surprised if this is the reality . The release of the decision to end the Grand Jury on the Big Sport weekend was timed , I guess , to make it a “ by the way ” announcement , but it came far earlier than I anticipated . Then again , moving the original Contador decision date to today , was due in part to allowing today’s event to make that controversy less relevant . No doubt I will be seeing plenty of the conspiracy theories in the forum in the next days !

Agree with some that the USADA will scream and shout but get NOWHERE ! The Grand Jury is history , but in 30 to 40 years we may get a sniff of what went on there , but between times there will be plenty of conjecture but no substance !

Noted the “ Official… Lance “ thread , now closed , passed the 1M viewer mark ! This controversy seems to have legs enough to excite all , including the crocs and fan girls .

The past is the past , lets get on with cleaning up the Sport ! An Amnesty is needed to get ALL the rotters out of their closets and a change of management at UCIless would also help and then perhaps the next generation of Racers will be based on Physique and intelligence , not the benefits of the best Pharmacy products !

 

[sniper]

The fact that it's German press says enough.

your loyalty to the guy is admirable.
he fooled you as much as anybody else.

 

[LaFlorecita]

your loyalty to the guy is admirable.
he fooled you as much as anybody else.

I'm incredibly loyal. And as I've said before, I won't believe he doped until he admits.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Dont get silly. German press blew the story so another doper got done it cycling.

Hey, another God!

 

[sniper]

Eddy Merckx says someone is trying to kill cycling. Well the German media are.

why? they just said this is a victory for cycling.
can only agree. cycling gains credibility without AC.
The last tour was as credible and enjoyable as very few others, thanks to the fact that AC was compelled to take the juice down a notch.

 

[VeloCity]

I'm incredibly loyal. And as I've said before, I won't believe he doped until he admits.

Sorry, but that's just stupid.

 

[Havetts]

I'm incredibly loyal. And as I've said before, I won't believe he doped until he admits.

Loyal or naive/refusing to believe, Fleur?

 

[LaFlorecita]

Loyal or naive/refusing to believe, Fleur?

Loyal, without a doubt. He's a good person.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Sorry, but that's just stupid.

Maybe it is.

 

[straydog]

No one is giving him a pass, the only people who dont want to see him sanctioned are his fans.

It is inherently inbuilt in human nature to be more forgiving of people who dont act like tools regardless of the crime. If 10 people commit the same crime but one got more rich powerful and rich than the others because he done a lot of undesirebale deeds outside of the actual crime, you can bet that they will be the person who people will want to see fall hardest. Its really not hard to understand. Just why was Riccardo Ricco disliked by his fellow pros more than other proven dopers like Millar, Basso etc.

I know you dont care for that but that say more about how your moral compass is out of skew than anything.

No one is giving him a pass...you know...other than his fans...

Thanks for the psychology class...I feel enlightened.

Dude read your own posts...slowly....of course our feelings to all people are based on our over all perception of their reasons for behaving the way that they do. Context is everything. In this context I would say, Contador is a cheat and a liar and I don't like him because of it...and that means my moral compass is out of skew?

My compass is out of skew because I don't admire him and do admire Armstrong and obviously yours is in skew because you feel the opposite.

That my peculiar little friend has nothing to do with a moral compass...it has to do with opinion...of which you are perfectly entitled to...even if it is palpably wrong

 

[LaFlorecita]

why? they just said this is a victory for cycling.
can only agree. cycling gains credibility without AC.
The last tour was as credible and enjoyable as very few others, thanks to the fact that AC was compelled to take the juice down a notch.

It kills cycling because it becomes a stupid, boring sport without Alberto. Alberto is cycling. At least for a lot of people.

 

[straydog]

Maybe it is.

no maybe about it....but at least you can see it.

 

[Winternet_]

You guys do realize that Alberto was not convicted for doping, right? He was convicted because there were traces of an illegal substance in his body. You do know the difference?

 

[The Hitch]

Lol, gotta the love the text message I just got from my best friend. I love that guy.

link? .............

 

[LaFlorecita]

My mom has decided she isn't going to watch the Tour... Just as my best friend. (He's gay and I've practically pulled him into Alberto fangirling. He thinks he has a nice ass.)

 

[Siriuscat]

Dear Alberto,
Bummer about the CAS decision but hey that's the way the cookie crumbles. Meant to say thanks for the watch the other year, you know for the 2009 Tour and all the help that I gave you and the making sure you got to starts on time and the like, (sorry about the TT but my hommies were coming in and we needed that cars), but that was a great tour.

Shame you had to attack when Yohannnn said wait and that you decided not to be a player on my team so you could win for yourself. Pity also that you couldn't really understand why I was at that tour. Anyway the watch, I sold it with a few Trek frames on ebay to help my defence funds and as you know the Feds decided to give me another free pass like the UCI did.

I told you a while back to look after Pat, but like many things you decided not to listen, never mind it wasn't too bad.
Payback is a ***** ain't it

Love Lance

PS
I've not read the thing yet but they can't prove or disprove anything so they ban him anyway....garbage! I'll go back to what I said before...this has the hand of Armstrong and his UCI bully boys all over it.

Gutted!!

 

[offbyone]

It seems like a fair ruling. Unless they changed the rules to add a minimum threshold for clen, he broke the rules and should be banned. The meat story, while plausible, lacks real evidence to back it up. The retroactive ban sure helped him out so he never loses a full season of racing. Personally, I don't think he would have won the tour this year, the course is not suited for him. It is too bad he was banned because it might be the one course he would struggle to win on and an epic battle would have ensued. Rules are rules though and unless we are hypocrites we can't give contador special treatment.

 

[kareeem]

It kills cycling because it becomes a stupid, boring sport without Alberto. Alberto is cycling. At least for a lot of people.

Lol. That's probably one of the stupidest things I've ever read. How old are you? 14?

 

[The Hitch]

Anyone see Quatar on ES. If so what did Harmonn have to say about this?

 

[BillytheKid]

S***! Just heard the news. I never expected the two-years. He will have to wait it out like Valverde. I only expected a year. It does seem harsh after all this time, but I can see were they would have to be consistent for the sake of other suspensions on clen.

 

[BotanyBay]

You guys do realize that Alberto was not convicted for doping, right? He was convicted because there were traces of an illegal substance in his body. You do know the difference?

The term "doping" has grown to include "dopERs".