Amgen Tour of California 2019, May 12-18

[Moviefan1203]

Re:

Second crash (which seemed outside 3km) was inside 3km, and Tejay apparently caught that group so gets the same time...

Just in the nick of time!

 

[luckyboy]

Wegelius said that

 

[Nacho]

Re: Re:

Second crash (which seemed outside 3km) was inside 3km, and Tejay apparently caught that group so gets the same time...

Just in the nick of time!

Looked to me like he was just riding thru it AFTER they went down.

 

[Moviefan1203]

Re: Re:

Second crash (which seemed outside 3km) was inside 3km, and Tejay apparently caught that group so gets the same time...

Just in the nick of time!

Looked to me like he was just riding thru it AFTER they went down.

I trust the race jury.

 

[deneb]

Re:

Second crash (which seemed outside 3km) was inside 3km, and Tejay apparently caught that group so gets the same time...

1 When the second crash happened The EF guys weren't back in the bunch

2 it was before the 3km sign


so...

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Re:

Second crash (which seemed outside 3km) was inside 3km, and Tejay apparently caught that group so gets the same time...

Hahaha, such BS. You can SEE that the crash happened outside of the 3k, because there are signs on the side of the road with the distance to the finishline. After rewinding the footage, it's clear that the crash happens probably about 400 meters before the 3k sign. And that TJ's group catches the crash when the front of the peloton is already out of sight.

 

[johnymax]

This is such a farce wtf!? Are they really gonna leave it like this?

Crash:

Some 40 seconds later:

I don't like to see races compromised by accidents. But the rules are clear. You can't change them just for the fun of it or in this case to give a rider a clear advantage. Then they could have done the same in the Giro yesterday. All the riders should have been given the same time because the crashes happened 6km from the finish. A farce.

 

[RunningRouleur]

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This is such a farce wtf!? Are they really gonna leave it like this?

Crash:

Some 40 seconds later:

I don't like to see races compromised by accidents. But the rules are clear. You can't change them just for the fun of it or in this case to give a rider a clear advantage. Then they could have done the same in the Giro yesterday. All the riders should have been given the same time because the crashes happened 6km from the finish. A farce.

After the harsh Viviani penalty the other day, and now this, I may have to reconsider my assumption that the Euros are bigger homers than Americans

 

[jaylew]

Re: Re:

Second crash (which seemed outside 3km) was inside 3km, and Tejay apparently caught that group so gets the same time...

Just in the nick of time!

Looked to me like he was just riding thru it AFTER they went down.

I trust the race jury.

Well the race jury admitted that second crash was outside 3k. I wanted TJ to do well but that decision is bs and seems like home cooking. Why have rules if you're not going to enforce them? It's a shame that happened to him but that's racing. You lose your credibility when you arbitrarily enforce rules. Hopefully he either goes on to win by more than a minute or he loses. If he (or Moscon) wins only because of this decision it'll be a shame.

 

[jmdirt]

Two things:

The missed corner is because he is on a bike with the levers switched (front on the right/rear on the left).
"home cooking": are the UCI officials USAers?

 

[jaylew]

Re:

Two things:

The missed corner is because he is on a bike with the levers switched (front on the right/rear on the left).
"home cooking": are the UCI officials USAers?

Dunno but it smells like it.

 

[luckyboy]

Yeah, he took Morton's bike. Morton is Australian so the front brake is on the right, rather than the left. Tejay pulled the rear brake by accident heading into that corner.

 

[Yingge]

Smells like the garbage bins outside a fish shop the morning after. Something 'fishy' about the sudden 'review'.

So that's the end of the 3km rule now then - endorsed by the UCI no less..

 

[Cance > TheRest]

This looks like one of those rare cases, where there truly is no way to defend a jury decision. Normally, these situations can at least inspire arguments for and against, but in this case no. Way worse than some of the bad jury decisions in Tour de Farce over the last couple of years.

 

[PeterB]

Wow, I checked who is the jury on this race and guess whose name popped up:

Commissaire(s) appointed by UCI
MARIËN Philippe
Président du Collège des Commissaires
MAGIERA Christian
Membre du Collège des Commissaires
MCCORD Andrew
Membre du Collège des Commissaires

Yes, the same Philippe Mariën who was responsible for Sagan's DQ at the Tour...

 

[Broccolidwarf]

What a ridiculous decision!

 

[Vroome.exe]

Without that crash TJ wasn't even going to catch the peloton, would they still have given him the same time? This race is a joke.

 

[Pharazon]

nothing quite like a little home favouritism

 

[Frankschleck]

This is like matchfixing.

 

[Danskebjerge]

Another example of juries handling the races as shows, not as competitions. That's worrying. What about, for instance, doping issues - are they also treated according to what is good for the show and not what the rules say? Organizers must have the credibility of the sport in mind!

 

[Danskebjerge]

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This is like matchfixing.

Good comparison.

 

[Mayo from Mayo]

Ludicrous decision. I thought it was only boxing where you couldn't get a decision against an American.

What did Toms Skuijns, Marcel Sieberg, Ray Goldstein and Hugo Houle do to the judges to be given their actual finishing time?

 

[Nirvana]

Looks like Lefevere is mad about that (with references also to Orbetello).
https://www.tuttobiciweb.it/article/2019/05/16/1557994124/patrick-lefevere-deceuninck-violate-le-regole-uci-inutile-correre-per-la-classifica-generale-california-van-garderen

 

[King Boonen]

I'm kind of assuming that this'll get reverted, but I'm probably wrong...

 

[Eyeballs Out]

I wasn't watching this closely but it looked like Moscon was behind even the Van Garderen group - really lucky for him if he's getting same time