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even the wctt is greater than stradeAt this point the 6th monument is Amstel or SB. GW is not even close tbh.
even the wctt is greater than stradeAt this point the 6th monument is Amstel or SB. GW is not even close tbh.
San Sebastián?
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You don't compare San Sebastiàn (San Remco) to muniments.
You compare monuments to San Sebastiàn.
From the next year the first monument of the season will be called San Remco.
But it will be a typo, no?
surprised no healy . thought he looked like he was finding form in itzulia at just the right time
it makes a big difference that Gent-Wevelgem is on a Sunday nowadays. On Wednesday between RVV and PR the best riders didn't target it. So, a lot of times it was just a (reduced) bunch sprint or B riders fighting for the win. It was still a nice win, because of the history, but nothing targeted by the specialist. After moving to the Sunday it took awhile before getting more prestige again. But now it seems settled on Sunday, they added the steeper side of the Kemmel and plug streets and found the perfect niche between the other cobble races.I agree, and outside the monuments the races change prestige a lot based on who the riders even are.
When there's a lot of very good hilly classics riders at a similar level (2010s), Amstel 'feels' more prestigious as more of the highly rated riders target it. When there are two hill riders who are way beyond anyone else, if they ride it then it's just another race; if one of them doesn't ride it, it becomes less important; if neither ride it, it becomes a B race. Strade Bianche is about to run into this issue, too.
Gent-Wevelgem feels more prestigious at the moment partly bc it feels like it has more depth as the non-alien contenders are more highly rated.
You literally have Van der Poel taking half assed turns because he's both kinda tired and using it as a glorified training ride. Not to mention that it was literally gifted by Van Aert not too long ago.it makes a big difference that Gent-Wevelgem is on a Sunday nowadays. On Wednesday between RVV and PR the best riders didn't target it. So, a lot of times it was just a (reduced) bunch sprint or B riders fighting for the win. It was still a nice win, because of the history, but nothing targeted by the specialist. After moving to the Sunday it took awhile before getting more prestige again. But now it seems settled on Sunday, they added the steeper side of the Kemmel and plug streets and found the perfect niche between the other cobble races.
vdp rode in service of his captain , the great philoctetesYou literally have Van der Poel taking half assed turns because he's both kinda tired and using it as a glorified training ride. Not to mention that it was literally gifted by Van Aert not too long ago.
i think that impression is purely down to pogi keeping it minimal and racing as little as possible before liegeApologies for inadvertently starting yet another “6th monument” (or if you prefer, the best non-monument classic) debate. All I was trying to say is that AGR seems to have lost some of its past luster or status. Me personally, I’m a traditionalist with things like this so 5 monuments fits nicely![]()
That’s true, but I didn’t mean the field, since that always changes, it’s more the overall vibe about the race. Perhaps that is in a small way a result of the Dutch government’s threats to put more restrictions on the race? Or perhaps it just reflects that when I started following this forum the Dutch mafia were in their ascendancy and so there was more talk/anticipation here about AGRi think that impression is purely down to pogi keeping it minimal and racing as little as possible before liege
pidcocks injury doesnt help , but pretty much all ardennes riders also target amstel
It's the sprinter's classic for those who can't win the sprinter's monument because they can't survive a couple of hills. it doesn't even deserve a Sunday spot in the calendar since it's not the best race of that weekend.No idea why this topic is about the biggest race after the 5 monuments, but just going by normalized power, GW is pretty huge. It's like the sprinter's classic for those that can survive a decent cobbled climb without going too much over the limit.
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I like the guy from Idaho. Hope he's not underraced.No, they will change the town name when Remco wins it for the first time.
Hard to tell what his form is like since Jorgenson didn’t ride the cobbled classics this year, but in when in top shape this should be a good race for him.I like the guy from Idaho. Hope he's not underraced.
