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Granville57 said:
He definitely deserves a second chance...to shoot another video. I couldn't hear a word he was saying! :confused:


He was saying he has made some mistakes and done things he's not proud of.

Maybe we should send this youtube to LA.
 
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Race Radio said:
Were is the apology for the defamation case he filed against Suzanne?

You were not supposed to remember that. Besides, he said he had done some things he was not proud of...
 
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I'm sure this means he'll never dope again. He feels bad about it. It's clear.

Does he plan to race again?

Of course he plans to race again. And at the same level as before.

But this time, without dope.

Come on, Kayle, you pathetic tool. Just no comment and retire already... a la Camazind.
 
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[mod comment: this is not a quoted factual news paper story, but an old news story, that has been liberally changed by this poster as a way to make his point]


Cyclist gets two-year ban

The cyclist Kayle Leogrande of the Rock Racing Team was recently handed a two-year ban by the USADA and the USAC, the USA doping control and the USA governing body of the sport respectively. The cyclist, from California, is generally regarded by his colleagues as a tool.

The two key witnesses against Leogrande were Suzanne Sonye and Frankie Andreu. Both worked for Rock Racing, the team Leogrande raced for in 2007. Sonye was a soigneur�responsible for providing physical therapy, food, and logistics for the cyclists�and Andreu, a former rider, was a administrator and previously friend to seven-time Tour de France champion Lance Armstrong who tested positive six times in 1999 for the banned drug EPO.

Leogrande's samples were taken during the International Cycling Classic in July 2007, where Leogrande won three events, finished second at three more and finished second overall at the event, also known as Stupidweek.

Though his 'A' sample was ruled negative because of a technicality, a panel ruled testimony from Sonye and Andreu, along with other evidence, was convincing enough to prove doping. Sonye testified that Leogrande told her he had used EPO and crack cocaine. She told Andreu. As the news spread through the team, there was a debate about whether to fire or suspend him. Eventually, Leogrande was suspended for two weeks but was allowed to continue to use crack cocaine on a social basis provided it was within the confines of a homeless shelter.

"No one within Rock Racing management questioned whether he'd used EPO," the decision read. "The only debate was what to do about it and where the rest of the team could get some too. The crack cocaine use was mostly dismissed, although Michael Ball consistently requested the connect."

Other evidence in the case included pictures of Leogrande holding EPO vials that were taken at the home of cyclist Joe Papp and a letter that read: "Joe, 2 boxes G. 100 iu; 7 boxes E. 60,000; $500. I owed you! I'll hook you up with one of Micheal's hoes! Thanks, Kayle."

USADA also introduced Papp's cell phone records that showed 274 calls and text messages to Leogrande with a third-party-conference-connection to a woman named LaKeesha during a 12-month period ending in July 2007.

Papp was a USADA witness in last year's public case against Floyd Landis. In that case, Papp said he was a drug cheat and testified about the ways synthetic testosterone helped him recover from all night crack cocaine binges. He said he never sold Leogrande crack cocaine or, "had sex with that woman."
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Helmut Roole contributed to this story.
 
HelmutRoole said:
[mod comment: the poster has taken a factual news story and added several fictional lines for effect]

The cyclist Kayle Leogrande of the Rock Racing Team was recently handed a two-year ban by the USADA and the USAC, the USA doping control and the USA governing body of the sport respectively. The cyclist, from California, is generally regarded by his colleagues as a tool.

The two key witnesses against Leogrande were Suzanne Sonye and Frankie Andreu. Both worked for Rock Racing, the team Leogrande raced for in 2007. Sonye was a soigneur�responsible for providing physical therapy, food, handjobs and logistics for the cyclists�and Andreu, a former rider, was a administrator and previously friend to seven-time Tour de France champion Lance Armstrong who tested positive six times in 1999 for the banned drug EPO.

Leogrande's samples were taken during the International Cycling Classic in July 2007, where Leogrande won three events, finished second at three more and finished second overall at the event, also known as Stupidweek.

Though his 'A' sample was ruled negative because of a technicality, a panel ruled testimony from Sonye and Andreu, along with other evidence, was convincing enough to prove doping. Sonye testified that Leogrande told her he had used EPO and crack cocaine. She told Andreu. As the news spread through the team, there was a debate about whether to fire or suspend him. Eventually, Leogrande was suspended for two weeks but was allowed to continue to use crack cocaine on a social basis provided it was within the confines of a homeless shelter.

"No one within Rock Racing management questioned whether he'd used EPO," the decision read. "The only debate was what to do about it and where the rest of the team could get some too. The crack cocaine use was mostly dismissed, although Michael Ball consistently requested the connect."

Other evidence in the case included pictures of Leogrande holding EPO vials that were taken at the home of cyclist Joe Papp and a letter that read: "Joe, 2 boxes G. 100 iu; 7 boxes E. 60,000; $500. I owed you! I'll hook you up with one of Micheal's hoes! Thanks, Kayle."

USADA also introduced Papp's cell phone records that showed 274 calls and text messages to Leogrande with a third-party-conference-connection to a woman named LaKeesha during a 12-month period ending in July 2007.

Papp was a USADA witness in last year's public case against Floyd Landis. In that case, Papp said he was a drug cheat and testified about the ways synthetic testosterone helped him recover from all night crack cocaine binges. He said he never sold Leogrande crack cocaine or, "had sex with that woman."
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Helmut Roole contributed to this story.

I think I can tell the parts that you added.....they were the ones that made me laugh, although really they were just wrong, on a number of levels.:D
 
I don't know who the guy is, and generally I'd say everybody deserves a second chance, but when I look at the bio on his homepage, there seems to be a bit of a gap between 2007 and 2011, and the fact that he doesn't seem to be able to openly admit what he's done doesn't fill me with confidence he won't do it again. Even in the video in the OP he doesn't clearly say what exactly it is he's sorry for.

A year later in 2005, Kayle went pro, cycling with the Jelly Belly team and then winning the 2006 USCF Elite National Criterium Championship. 2007 was an even more successful year for him, winning 12 races, gaining international success, and having two top point finishes at Philli Week, helping put Rock Racing on the map.

Currently, Kayle is looking forward to the September release of his new brand of clothing and cycling gear, energized by the vision of using his own artwork on cycling clothes. Excited about building the new Monster Media cycling team and motivated to have a successful 2011 season, Kayle Leogrande is making his way back to the top of the road cycling ladder.
 
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From his website.

I am looking forward to returning to racing after taking 2 years off to spend time with family, manage my tattoo business and re evaluate my goals in the sport of cycling.

So he just chose to take a couple of years of to be with his family?
 
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spalco said:
I don't know who the guy is, and generally I'd say everybody deserves a second chance, but when I look at the bio on his homepage, there seems to be a bit of a gap between 2007 and 2011, and the fact that he doesn't seem to be able to openly admit what he's done doesn't fill me with confidence he won't do it again. Even in the video in the OP he doesn't clearly say what exactly it is he's sorry for.

It's not real important who he is except Novitsky was investigating Michael Ball (owner of Rock Racing) before the Landis emails leaked. Leogrande was part of Rock Racing, involved with Joe Papp and I suspect was a significant element of the investigation from the very beginning. If Lance falls it will be, at least in part, from an investigation that this guys actions helped start.

Fascinating stuff.
 
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Hugh Januss said:
I think I can tell the parts that you added.....they were the ones that made me laugh, although really they were just wrong, on a number of levels.:D

Actually I have always really liked Suzanne and i think the comments towards her were in poor taste. Now her mother, she can be pretty bad, but Suzanne was always a sweetheart and i don't know anyone who doesn't respect her. Just as a side note we were at a race in LB years ago not enough bathrooms, and the official was holding us at the line an awful long time waiting for something. After a few minutes Suzanne says loudly "i gotta pee, lets hurry this up" everyone laughs. Then a few minutes more of waiting and Suzanne says " i REALLY need to pee. bad. I'm not kidding" So everyone laughs agains, and i can hear whispers as she tells someone she can't hold it any longer(i think it was Butch Stinton but it might have been Thurlow) anyway the guy whispers back"just go" to shorten the story, someone yelled for the guys to make a tight circle facing out and Suzanne let loose in the middle.A big puddle right at the start finish line. It was pretty hot so the puddle only lasted a couple of laps but i thought it was a good illustration of how cyclists can pull together to solve a problem on the spot. Not to mention that Suzanne is pretty funny even when she isnt trying to be. :)))
 
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He also still has his stripped results onhis site. No asterisks or anything that I saw. Dude doped to beat a 44 year old steve tilford at downers grove.
 
HelmutRoole said:
Cyclist gets two-year ban

[mod comment: the poster has taken a factual news story and added several fictional lines for effect]

The cyclist Kayle Leogrande of the Rock Racing Team was recently handed a two-year ban by the USADA and the USAC, the USA doping control and the USA governing body of the sport respectively. The cyclist, from California, is generally regarded by his colleagues as a tool.

The two key witnesses against Leogrande were Suzanne Sonye and Frankie Andreu. Both worked for Rock Racing, the team Leogrande raced for in 2007. Sonye was a soigneur�responsible for providing physical therapy, food, hand logistics for the cyclists�and Andreu, a former rider, was a administrator and previously friend to seven-time Tour de France champion Lance Armstrong who tested positive six times in 1999 for the banned drug EPO.

Leogrande's samples were taken during the International Cycling Classic in July 2007, where Leogrande won three events, finished second at three more and finished second overall at the event, also known as Stupidweek.

Though his 'A' sample was ruled negative because of a technicality, a panel ruled testimony from Sonye and Andreu, along with other evidence, was convincing enough to prove doping. Sonye testified that Leogrande told her he had used EPO and crack cocaine. She told Andreu. As the news spread through the team, there was a debate about whether to fire or suspend him. Eventually, Leogrande was suspended for two weeks but was allowed to continue to use crack cocaine on a social basis provided it was within the confines of a homeless shelter.

"No one within Rock Racing management questioned whether he'd used EPO," the decision read. "The only debate was what to do about it and where the rest of the team could get some too. The crack cocaine use was mostly dismissed, although Michael Ball consistently requested the connect."

Other evidence in the case included pictures of Leogrande holding EPO vials that were taken at the home of cyclist Joe Papp and a letter that read: "Joe, 2 boxes G. 100 iu; 7 boxes E. 60,000; $500. I owed you! I'll hook you up with one of Micheal's hoes! Thanks, Kayle."

USADA also introduced Papp's cell phone records that showed 274 calls and text messages to Leogrande with a third-party-conference-connection to a woman named LaKeesha during a 12-month period ending in July 2007.

Papp was a USADA witness in last year's public case against Floyd Landis. In that case, Papp said he was a drug cheat and testified about the ways synthetic testosterone helped him recover from all night crack cocaine binges. He said he never sold Leogrande crack cocaine or, "had sex with that woman."
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Helmut Roole contributed to this story.

I assume that you have no assets and no hope of ever obtaining them.
 
Scott SoCal said:
It's not real important who he is except Novitsky was investigating Michael Ball (owner of Rock Racing) before the Landis emails leaked. Leogrande was part of Rock Racing, involved with Joe Papp and I suspect was a significant element of the investigation from the very beginning. If Lance falls it will be, at least in part, from an investigation that this guys actions helped start.

Fascinating stuff.

I wonder who will try to write THE definitive book about "The Fall" (or whatever you want to call all of this extended drama)? If you don't have a background in covering cycling, could you hope to peel back enough onion layers to get to the subtle truths (which shall remain nameless)?

steevo said:
He also still has his stripped results onhis site. No asterisks or anything that I saw. Dude doped to beat a 44 year old steve tilford at downers grove.

Steeveo, just draw up a list of results requiring asterisks and I'm sure Kayle will be happy to make the necessary modifications to his palmares.
 
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I have altered the post by HelmetRoole, creative as it was, to make it clear that this is a post of fiction, and not a factual news story quoted verbatim from the source that he insinuated it came from. The subtle nudge at the base of the original post is too easily overlooked.
 
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HelmutRoole said:
[mod comment: this is not a quoted factual news paper story, but an old news story, that has been liberally changed by this poster as a way to make his point]


Cyclist gets two-year ban

The cyclist Kayle Leogrande of the Rock Racing Team was recently handed a two-year ban by the USADA...
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Helmut Roole contributed to this story.
Apparently I have completely underestimated the level of stupidity out in the internet ether. So, let me state for the record that the above "article" is a joke; not to be taken seriously or confused with reality or used as a basis for a lawsuit (this last bit for the Americans in the audience). I will cease and desist in making such jokes because there are people here who are profoundly stupid not to mention litigious.