An open letter to UCI President Pat McQuaid..

[Hawkwood]

Has `...most tested athlete in history' been trademarked?

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Again from thatinterview with Pat, here is an interesting observation from Pat on Lance.

(5:58)

The return of Lance Armstrong for instance has done a huge amount to promote and to publicise the sport worldwide and has done a big marketing job for the sport.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Some further questions/observations for the UCI to address.

On Tuesday Pat McQuaid held a press conference at the Giro d'Italia - in which he said he had possession of 'letters' and documentation saying there was no positive test from the Tour de Suisse 2001.

This would have taken co-ordination and co-operation from different stakeholders. Why is it in the same time-frame the UCI has been unable to produce any documents relating to the transaction from Lance Armstrong, the UCI booking number and receipt for the purchase of the Sysmex machine?

Also - the 'ProTour Code of Conduct' appears to be no longer available on the UCI website or ProTour website - I found it eventually here in archives.

The 'Code of Conduct' sets out the practices for teams regarding having a rider subject to investigation:

IX. Without prejudice to the right to terminate the contract for serious misconduct, not to
enter any licence-holder for events who is subject to judicial proceedings or
investigation for facts relating to sporting activity, or any act constituting a breach of
the UCI antidoping regulations, or any other intentional criminal act.
1. as from the opening of the investigation or proceedings:
· if the facts are admitted by the party in question, or
· if information from an official source available to the UCI ProTeam
shows that the facts in question cannot be seriously contested;
2. in other cases, as from the date of referral by the investigating body or,
where no such procedure applies, the date of the summons to the
accused to appear before the trial judge for sentencing.

What is the current UCI position?

 

[Mellow Velo]

Again from thatinterview with Pat, here is an interesting observation from Pat on Lance.

(5:58)

The return of Lance Armstrong for instance has done a huge amount to promote and to publicise the sport worldwide and has done a big marketing job for the sport.

Indeed.
I am convinced that the "special relationship" came about with the 1999 back dated TUE.
HV and the UCI had immediately seen that having a US cancer survivor winning the Tour could be a potential financial cash cow.
Then along came a positive test..........

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Indeed.
I am convinced that the "special relationship" came about with the 1999 back dated TUE.
HV and the UCI had immediately seen that having a US cancer survivor winning the Tour could be a potential financial cash cow.
Then along came a positive test..........

Also remember that was the 'Tour of Redemption' after 'Festiana 98' - and only a month after Pantani's departure while in the MR in the Giro.

 

[Anonymous]

I'd apply the same to President Sarkozy for devoting an hour of his work day to talk to Armstrong and Bruyneel and accept a custom painted Madone while both are persons of interest in an investigation into doping paraphernalia by the Central Office against Environmental Damage and Public Health (OCLAESP).

I didn't realize Trek made frames that tiny...

 

[Anonymous]

Bump so that moronic threads like those titled "Confused" and "landis" do not fulfill their purpose of pushing real threads to the second page.

 

[filipo]

No need to bump

Cos here's a little tidbit worth adding, from today's CN article on Vino

(Vino) was happy to receive the handshake of UCI president Pat McQuaid who warmly greeted the Astana rider after conducting serious discussions near the teams' busses with Jim Ochowicz and Matt White, perhaps about the doping-related allegations of Floyd Landis'.

Oh to be a fly on the bus...

 

[Dr. Maserati]

On Tuesday during his Giro press conference Pat McQuaid said:

I have statement here from those labs that support what I am about to say. The letters will also soon be published on the UCI website in a sign of transparency.

Today is Friday, just after 18:00 in Aigle. So, Pat - where are the letters? Why is there no update on the UCI website?

 

[thehog]

Looks like McQuaid is making some old enemies friends again so they shut-up:

Sinkewitz was one of the first riders to come clean about his extensive doping practices. He admitted his testosterone use, but also went a step further by confessing that he had also used EPO and blood transfusions. He rode with the PSK Whirlpool last year, but wasn't offered a contract renewal for 2010.

"It's now been incredibly nice to wake up and know why you're going to train," said Sinkewitz to the paper.

Last season the 29 year old won a stage and the overall in the Sachsen Tour and also won the third stage of the Volta a Portugal em Bicicleta. He hasn't raced in eight months and will make his first star with the ISD-Neri team at the Tour de Luxembourg next week

 

[Cobber]

As you say -real Cycling fans unite!

Maybe someone could start a 'facebook' page..... or even highlight this thread on Twitter? Because the more I look at this the worse it gets.

How is it -since Friday - Pat was able to get in touch with OCLD/Afld, the lab in Lausanne, the Tour de Suisse organisers and then WADA - and get paperwork from them all to say there was no 'positive test'.

And yet for the 'donation' he can not provide a single piece of paper- when it is in the same building he works in?!

I think a Facebook page is a great idea -- especially since the media these days use Facebook and Twitter more than any actual investigative journalism. I created the Facebook Group "An open letter to UCI president Pat McQuaid". I won't have time to do anything with it, so if someone with a bit more time on their hands wants to take over, send me a pm and join the group.

 

[Jonathan]

Lots of good posts in this thread, especially the first two.

 

[carl spackler]

Pulled this from the transcript of the LA press conference at the TOC. Is it accurate? Can anyone explain it?

Did you ever pay the UCI [International Cycling Union] any money?

Absolutely not. No. .

 

[gree0232]

To the UCI President:

I think you should be lauded for the actions you have taken to clean up the sport of cycling. When you took over the sport was riddled with scandal and in the midst of a full blown doping crisis. You were trapped between extremes, and have had a very difficult time forging a succcessful path through the muck.

On one hand, you inhereite dthe legacy of Hein Verbruggen's in adaquate response to the rise of doping. The initial failure to clamp down on doping during his tenure lead directly to such scandals as the Festina affair. The lax attitude and enforcement allowed the cancer of dope to infiltrate the sport to a large extent. Reverseing a doping problem under the best of circumstances is difficult and demanding.

However, the circumstances that you began this turnaround were far from normal. **** Pound may have accurately gauged the extent of the problem in cycling, but the tactics he chose to confront that issue involved the systemic undermining of the very system necessary to combat doping. By relying on public leaks and innuendo rather than proof, **** Pound helped create an atmoshpere of accussation and witch hunt attitide toward any and all success in the sport.

Stuck in between these two extremes, you have had to forge a path ahead. This has included strengtheing and clarifying the WADA code, the creation of a whereabouts system backed up by increasingly tough and through testing, and the creation and implimentation of the biolgical passport has proven a great help in identifying and targeting likely dopers within the sport. Additionally, and with little fanfair, the biological passport just passed its first legal hurdle and has become an additional tool for sanction within the sport.

Although none of use can say that the scurge of doping will forever be beaten, it is clear that your efforts have significantly reduced the corrupting influence of this cancer on our sport.

I applaud your actions, and hope that your steadfast leadership continues into the future.

 

[Hugh Januss]

To the UCI President:

I think you should be lauded for the actions you have taken to clean up the sport of cycling. When you took over the sport was riddled with scandal and in the midst of a full blown doping crisis. You were trapped between extremes, and have had a very difficult time forging a succcessful path through the muck.

On one hand, you inhereite dthe legacy of Hein Verbruggen's in adaquate response to the rise of doping. The initial failure to clamp down on doping during his tenure lead directly to such scandals as the Festina affair. The lax attitude and enforcement allowed the cancer of dope to infiltrate the sport to a large extent. Reverseing a doping problem under the best of circumstances is difficult and demanding.

However, the circumstances that you began this turnaround were far from normal. **** Pound may have accurately gauged the extent of the problem in cycling, but the tactics he chose to confront that issue involved the systemic undermining of the very system necessary to combat doping. By relying on public leaks and innuendo rather than proof, **** Pound helped create an atmoshpere of accussation and witch hunt attitide toward any and all success in the sport.

Stuck in between these two extremes, you have had to forge a path ahead. This has included strengtheing and clarifying the WADA code, the creation of a whereabouts system backed up by increasingly tough and through testing, and the creation and implimentation of the biolgical passport has proven a great help in identifying and targeting likely dopers within the sport. Additionally, and with little fanfair, the biological passport just passed its first legal hurdle and has become an additional tool for sanction within the sport.

Although none of use can say that the scurge of doping will forever be beaten, it is clear that your efforts have significantly reduced the corrupting influence of this cancer on our sport.

I applaud your actions, and hope that your steadfast leadership continues into the future.

just

 

[buckwheat]

To the UCI President:

I think you should be lauded for the actions you have taken to clean up the sport of cycling. When you took over the sport was riddled with scandal and in the midst of a full blown doping crisis. You were trapped between extremes, and have had a very difficult time forging a succcessful path through the muck.

On one hand, you inhereite dthe legacy of Hein Verbruggen's in adaquate response to the rise of doping. The initial failure to clamp down on doping during his tenure lead directly to such scandals as the Festina affair. The lax attitude and enforcement allowed the cancer of dope to infiltrate the sport to a large extent. Reverseing a doping problem under the best of circumstances is difficult and demanding.

However, the circumstances that you began this turnaround were far from normal. **** Pound may have accurately gauged the extent of the problem in cycling, but the tactics he chose to confront that issue involved the systemic undermining of the very system necessary to combat doping. By relying on public leaks and innuendo rather than proof, **** Pound helped create an atmoshpere of accussation and witch hunt attitide toward any and all success in the sport.

Stuck in between these two extremes, you have had to forge a path ahead. This has included strengtheing and clarifying the WADA code, the creation of a whereabouts system backed up by increasingly tough and through testing, and the creation and implimentation of the biolgical passport has proven a great help in identifying and targeting likely dopers within the sport. Additionally, and with little fanfair, the biological passport just passed its first legal hurdle and has become an additional tool for sanction within the sport.

Although none of use can say that the scurge of doping will forever be beaten, it is clear that your efforts have significantly reduced the corrupting influence of this cancer on our sport.

I applaud your actions, and hope that your steadfast leadership continues into the future.

Did Pat enjoy his happy ending as much as you enjoyed providing it?

 

[gree0232]

Did Pat enjoy his happy ending as much as you enjoyed providing it?

Wow, yet another great rebuttal that rests upon attacking the person rather than the arguement!

Nice to see the bashers continue trying to tear down rather than actually problem solve.

Nice to see that the proposed solution from the bashers is always, RESIGN, QUIT, INSULT, and TEAR DOWN. THat'll fix .... well, nothing actually.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

just

Its worse than that - Gree implores people to read the Vrijman report and then (continues) to suggest Dick Pound is the source of the leak.

Gree - since you haven't bothered reading the Vrijman report here is a little piece for you to read so you dont keep showing your ignorance.

McQuaid confirms Zorzoli as UCI source of Armstrong documents

 

[theswordsman]

Guys, you have have to quote this one? I feel like I'm reading a cult leader's newsletter.

 

[Race Radio]

Its worse than that - Gree implores people to read the Vrijman report and then (continues) to suggest Dick Pound is the source of the leak.

Gree - since you haven't bothered reading the Vrijman report here is a little piece for you to read so you dont keep showing your ignorance.

McQuaid confirms Zorzoli as UCI source of Armstrong documents

Don't introduce facts, they mean little to Gree.....they slow him down and he cannot make his 500 word per post minimum.

 

[gree0232]

Its worse than that - Gree implores people to read the Vrijman report and then (continues) to suggest Dick Pound is the source of the leak.

Gree - since you haven't bothered reading the Vrijman report here is a little piece for you to read so you dont keep showing your ignorance.

McQuaid confirms Zorzoli as UCI source of Armstrong documents

Well, I don't believe that I ever officially accused **** Pound of being the ACTUAL guy to facilitate the leak. I do think he engaged in a series of leaks and public trash talk that have undermined the very system needed to combat doping.

Nice rebuttal to the Vrijman Report though.

Nice rebuttal to all the steps taken to clean up the sport.

Nice rebuttal to Vrijman's rebuttal to the WADA rebuttal.

Now, are you going to say that **** Pound did not have anything to do with the issue? Does the UCI control LNDD where the tests were carried out? Didn't think so.

 

[rhubroma]

In summation:

He does not know how much money he gave.
He does not know when he gave the money.
He does not know what the money was used for.
He does not know who he gave the money to.
He does not know how he paid.
He does not know who suggested giving the money.
He does not know if he gave more money afterward.

His deposition also contradicts the story that McQuaid is attemmpting to sell right now.

BTW. The deposition excerpt would be a good addition to the links thread.

Sounds like Regan and Iran-Contra. Lance sure would make a perfect GOP presidential candidate now wouldn't he...And even as a cyclist his fan base leans heavily toward that side. Who said it was a bad idea to mix sport with politics? To the contrary here it makes a perfect ideological match.

If such a letter of protest comes out officially, count me in to sign it.

 

[Race Radio]

Well, I don't believe that I ever officially accused **** Pound of being the ACTUAL guy to facilitate the leak. I do think he engaged in a series of leaks and public trash talk that have undermined the very system needed to combat doping.

You claimed that WADA was the leak, it is one of the many lies you repeat over and over.

You now make the claim that Pound is responsible for a "Series of leaks" Care to back that up with any evidence or is this like most of your claims, completely invented.

really, you need to stop. You are just embarrassing yourself.

 

[gree0232]

You claimed that WADA was the leak, it is one of the many lies you repeat over and over.

You now make the claim that Pound is responsible for a "Series of leaks" Care to back that up with any evidence or is this like most of your claims, completely invented.

really, you need to stop. You are just embarrassing yourself.

Well, this is the point that it becomes farsical. Unable to beat the logic, we come up with some minor bit of minutia that would be very easy to clarify if we simply asked a question: Are you saying that **** POund personally leaked the entire 1999 smear campign?

No.

Do I think he was involved in the process? You bet.

Pretty easy to clarify now isn't it?

Now, if we could move back into something that looks like a mature discussion rather than emotional blather and accussation, it would be appreciated by all.

 

[gree0232]

Sounds like Regan and Iran-Contra. Lance sure would make a perfect GOP presidential candidate now wouldn't he...And even as a cyclist his fan base leans heavily toward that side. Who said it was a bad idea to mix sport with politics? To the contrary here it makes a perfect ideological match.

If such a letter of protest comes out officially, count me in to sign it.

I would really like to see a source that goes with Bro's accussations.