ok but how come Frank is still in the top mix whereas Andy has gone to mid pack?PunchingRouleur said:Would not surprise me if a reason for Andy performances after 2011 was letter from UCI, especially after Frank problems.
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ok but how come Frank is still in the top mix whereas Andy has gone to mid pack?PunchingRouleur said:Would not surprise me if a reason for Andy performances after 2011 was letter from UCI, especially after Frank problems.
IndianCyclist said:ok but how come Frank is still in the top mix whereas Andy has gone to mid pack?
Spencer the Half Wit said:I had three particularly mild comments deleted from the Guardian Article on his retirement. Even a hint that Frank's problems may have contributed to Andy's decline is a no, no.
Spencer the Half Wit said:I had three particularly mild comments deleted from the Guardian Article on his retirement. Even a hint that Frank's problems may have contributed to Andy's decline is a no, no.
Benotti69 said:Guardian cannot afford libel cases and they are libel for the comments they publish so they err very much on the side of caution. Guardian sports dept really has no interest in doping. They only do it after others have led.
BYOP88 said:Anyone checked the UCI's site, if so has their PDF been updated?
BeagRigh said:Good call, nothing new though.
As has been said I don't think Andy's decline is just due to come off/less dope. Many more factors imho.
BeagRigh said:Good call, nothing new though.
As has been said I don't think Andy's decline is just due to come off/less dope. Many more factors imho.
Spencer the Half Wit said:One of them was referring to Frank's $10k training advice from Fuentes and comparing that "defence" to JTL's drinking binge, Alberto's steak and Lance's saddle sores. All verifiable and by no stretch of the imagination libelous.
SeriousSam said:Just openly call Gatlin doped to the max on their Gatlin articles. They'll allow that because Gatlin is a dirty drug cheat thus the fact that he's passing all the tests now is meaningless.
Chambers is a former drug cheat so you would probably not be allowed to insinuate he's doping at the guardian.
betty ford?Benotti69 said:I suspect Schleck to come out of retirement in 18months.
blackcat said:betty ford?
vandenbroucke coke fiend? i thought you had to be belge like boonen to be an addict
Benotti69 said:Guardian cannot afford libel cases and they are libel for the comments they publish so they err very much on the side of caution. Guardian sports dept really has no interest in doping. They only do it after others have led.
Benotti69 said:Expecting Schleck to dump on former team mates or DS is not going to happen.
I guess Schleck is still hoping for some miracle for 2014, but i would be surprised if he finishes the season and gets a team for next year.
BigBoat said:Cartilage is non-replaceable, if what he says is true and he's "bone on bone" in one of his knees than we'll never see him again . Even minor irritation down there with full thickness cartilage is very hard to deal with; without some off the bike strengthening & stretching which is counter productive to riding the bike.
Runners, football players, tennis, basketball get degradation in the knees over time probably 2-3 times faster than cyclists or swimmers..... unless the cyclist crashes and dislocates their knee or smashes the knee cap... Not a good way to go out at all for Andy Schleck. Those of us with joint pain cringe!