Andy Schleck Discussion thread.

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c'mon those descriptions are hillarious lol

again, he sucks terribly now but we'll talk again in the ardennes week. andy is not done yet
 
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Christian said:
Sorry if this is not the case - but repetition buids reputation I suppose
This sums up our recent posts nicely, but not in the way you intended.
 
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c'mon those descriptions are hillarious lol

again, he sucks terribly now but we'll talk again in the ardennes week. andy is not done yet

same was said last year and the ardennes were downright pathetic
 
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Christian said:
I am not even gonna bother reading the last couple of pages which I am sure is full of the usual smug dirt that the bloemetje and the likes spew around. (Sorry if this is not the case - but repetition buids reputation I suppose)

Let me try and contribute something useful (futile attempt, I know - ask Einstein about it, or Hermann Hesse).

What happened, then? If, in the official statement from the team, Andy Schleck speaks of respiratory ailments, the story of the stage reveals apparent difficulties to follow the wheels of the peloton in the wet and slippery descends. It is thus that he had to let go at KM 104, on the small road 369. "He seemed to stiffen on the bike and his hands were glued to the breaks", reports Mark Meilleur, former professional track racer and driver of the photograph motorcycle for l'Equipe.

Meilleur, who had the best seat to witness what happened, does not however for one second doubt the good condition of Schleck: "For me, he is in good shape, he just suffers from a lack of self-confidence. From what I saw, he is afraid in the descends and gets more and more tense. And he loses contact without being able to react. Because after that, he stayed 100m behind the peloton for 15km, with headwinds, nothing to protect him and no hope of returning. Therefore, he is not bad physically, because not everyone can do that. Most of the riders disappear straight away, he did more than just hang on.

One time, he was able to return. And even a second time, because the story repeated itself during the wild final. (...) It was only when bordures cut up the peloton, approaching the ocean, when Andy Schleck finally gave in. Same reason, same result.


http://www.lequotidien.lu/les-sports/42083.html

(Sorry if this has been posted before)

leave me out of this please i have not posted anything about Andy abandoning in this thread, just one post in the race thread.
 
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Seriously thats a great idea. Winning the vuelta will give him some confidence. Frank wouldnt be inchbeses great shape though since he wouldnt have raced in a year. But if andy rides the tour without the aim of a win he would be in shape (i hope) for the vuelta.
 
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Forunculo said:
He should ride Giro or Tour as a training race and go for the Vuelta with his brother.

+1
It would relieve him of any pressure to produce until later in the season. At minimum without his respiratory issues he should be able to arrive with the peloton on flat stages and with the sprinters on hilly mountainous ones, all while getting in valuable race miles. Having the Vuelta with Frank to look forward to gives him a light at the end of his long, dark tunnel to regaining his top form. I think he should skip the Tour though to avoid all the inevitable media attention. He can do whatever other races that take place during July.
 
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Would you like to explain :)
Sure. It's simple. I'm positive she wouldn't like that to be done to her. Thus the old saying: "don't do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
 
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cineteq said:
Sure. It's simple. I'm positive she wouldn't like that to be done to her. Thus the old saying: "don't do unto others as you would have them do unto you".

I wouldn't like what to be done to me :confused:

What is the freakin problem :rolleyes:
 
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cineteq said:
Sure. It's simple. I'm positive she wouldn't like that to be done to her. Thus the old saying: "don't do unto others as you would have them do unto you".

I think I know where you're trying to get at with your response. So for starters, LaFlorecita didn't create the clock counting the number of days since Andy finished a race - it was someone else who created the clock - LaFlo just shared the link to it (I'm pretty sure this is the case if not well then ignore this comment :)) And also what made you think LaFlo would actually do something like it?
 
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sacrifice&hardwork said:
I think I know where you're trying to get at with your response. So for starters, LaFlorecita didn't create the clock counting the number of days since Andy finished a race - it was someone else who created the clock - LaFlo just shared the link to it (I'm pretty sure this is the case if not well then ignore this comment :)) And also what made you think LaFlo would actually do something like it?
He he, are you Flo's alter ego or suckpuppet? :D I wasn't talking about her creating that clock. It's more that she's piling on Andy when she has a chance just 'because', yet when somebody says the slightest thing against Alberto or she doesn't agree with a poster, she becomes vicious against that poster. You see, that's called 'double standards'.

Imagine if I create a clock like this:
Since Alberto Contador was suspended for doping
366 days
6993 hours
419590 minutes
25175454 seconds

I really do not care if she does this, but she better be ready the accept other posters talking bad about Alberto. That's all.
 
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It seems Andy has some sort of psychological trouble. It's weird because he hasn't crashed a lot in his career and the crash that got him injured was on a TT and not on a peloton. Either way, I hope he can put his act together somewhere this season; to me personally, he has the best climbing style: power and agility on a fine balance that looks perfect to me.
 
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trevim said:
It seems Andy has some sort of psychological trouble. It's weird because he hasn't crashed a lot in his career and the crash that got him injured was on a TT and not on a peloton. Either way, I hope he can put his act together somewhere this season; to me personally, he has the best climbing style: power and agility on a fine balance that looks perfect to me.

I think his psychological problem is as complicated as a blocked toilet is to a ****ing plumber (Al Pacino - Insomnia).

He is scared of going downhill. I think it really started when Jensie took that bad one and has then gotten worse through a collection of his own crashes and others (WW :().

It is not a new thing, that some are having nerves going downhill, but has someone ever gotten over it ? Because how much fun would it bee with A & A racing up and down the mountains with Sky fuming behind them.
 
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T-Nielsen said:
I think his psychological problem is as complicated as a blocked toilet is to a ****ing plumber (Al Pacino - Insomnia).

He is scared of going downhill. I think it really started when Jensie took that bad one and has then gotten worse through a collection of his own crashes and others (WW :().

It is not a new thing, that some are having nerves going downhill, but has someone ever gotten over it ? Because how much fun would it bee with A & A racing up and down the mountains with Sky fuming behind them.
I don't know about Voigt: he descended very well on Port de Bales chasing Contador. He had fire in his belly but it was a great performance. Maybe Weylandt had something to do with it: he was upset in Gap that year after a descent. And after that he never got his level back.
 
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cineteq said:
He he, are you Flo's alter ego or suckpuppet? :D I wasn't talking about her creating that clock. It's more that she's piling on Andy when she has a chance just 'because', yet when somebody says the slightest thing against Alberto or she doesn't agree with a poster, she becomes vicious against that poster. You see, that's called 'double standards'.

Imagine if I create a clock like this:
Since Alberto Contador was suspended for doping
366 days
6993 hours
419590 minutes
25175454 seconds

I really do not care if she does this, but she better be ready the accept other posters talking bad about Alberto. That's all.

Hmmm... last time I checked I was myself and not someone else I don't know outside this forum. And I think this is the second time someone has asked me that question, so the answer is no - again. I just got her back because we're in the Alberto Family ;) And she obviously knows more about cycling than I do :)

And again, she just posted the link, no need for you to try and turn this on Contador - though I do remember her making a countdown on his return ;) I don't know her personally but if she's passionate about something she is bound to defend it (which is something I would do as well as a girl). She has her reasons for why she does things and you have your reasons for why you do things.

Anyways, don't want to turn this thing personal or anything non cycling related - so can we please get this thread back on topic. Thanks!
 
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cineteq said:
Sure. It's simple. I'm positive she wouldn't like that to be done to her. Thus the old saying: "don't do unto others as you would have them do unto you".

Oh look. Mr perfect gets it wrong again.
 
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How long was it between finishing a previous race and LBL 2012? Is the 1 day LBL the only race he finished in 2012?

Just trying to figure out how long this dark period has been so don't jump on me, I want Andy back racing and racing well!!!

In 2012 finished all 3 of the Ardennes, Oman, and Trofeo Palma de Mallorca. iirc his form was actually improving going into ardennes, obviously not enough to contend, but he was getting better. Than the Dauphine crash set him way back and he didn't race again until Beijing.

Also agree with Trevim, I think there are definitely some kind of psychological problems going on with him. And he'll need to move past those problems in order to stage a comeback.