Andy Schleck Discussion thread.

[gruppeto993]

Monfort is definitely a class act and will be there in july. Very loyal and humble. Unlike Fuglsang over the last couple of years.
Zubeldia will be of use and as will horner if he has the form. And they should replace popovych with either Rast or Roulston. I still think they should have kiserlovski there. He is a good climber and better than the rest. And Andy does not need a train.
As for Kloden, he will only be of use in the TTT. Other than that, he is completely useless. does not seem to care about racing any more and doesn't seem too loyal.

 

[Afrank]

Is Sergent doing the Giro again? He would be a good edition for the TTT, since that is where they will need the most help without Fabian. And he would be a good flat domestique IMHO.

 

[thirteen]

Schleck abandons 2013 Tour Mediterraneen

 

[Siriuscat]

Resists urge to comment........

 

[airstream]

Resists urge to comment........

Got a doze of inspiration a week in advance? )

 

[Miburo]

Schleck abandons 2013 Tour Mediterraneen

This is just too easy

 

[Afrank]

Schleck abandons 2013 Tour Mediterraneen

Worrying, that's the only word to describe this. I hope the respiratory infection really was bad enough to the point he couldn't continue.

 

[Siriuscat]

Worrying, that's the only word to describe this. I hope the respiratory infection really was bad enough to the point he couldn't continue.

Hence my (non) comment!! Otherwise, as Milboro says...this would just be too simple.

Got a doze of inspiration a week in advance? )

Yet again Airstream, you've lost me! Any chance you could repeat in English??

 

[airstream]

Hence my (non) comment!! Otherwise, as Milboro says...this would just be too simple.



Yet again Airstream, you've lost me! Any chance you could repeat in English??

I'm saying I'm glad that this news made you so enthusiastic!

 

[Siriuscat]

I'm saying I'm glad that this news made you so enthusiastic!

You need to learn Irony....I purposely didn't comment as I knew it would drag you out of your shell to spread more nonsense!!

I suspect his problem is related to racing this early in the year, he doesn't do it, it's outside his comfort zone. Disappointing that he quit, seems to be going backwards!!

 

[Alpechraxler]

Why should he risk serious complication like a myocarditis ?

 

[Afrank]

Why should he risk serious complication like a myocarditis ?

Could you explain more on this? I'd like to know more about this, specifically how continuing could have put him at risk for myocarditis? And what myocarditis is exactly? A quick Google search told me it was inflammation of heart muscle.

 

[RHRH19861986]

Could you explain more on this? I'd like to know more about this, specifically how continuing could have put him at risk for myocarditis? And what myocarditis is exactly? A quick Google search told me it was inflammation of heart muscle.

If there´s a virus in the body, and you do a little bit too much (hard too say what´s too much), this virus is searching for "weak point" in the system, and might attack the heart muscle.

Something which made e.g. former Telekom pro Gerd Audehm become an invalid for the rest of his life, and caused deaths in sports.

That´s an ugly issue. Riders like Schleck are allowed to leave races, othgers aren´t, and are risking their health seriously, especially in those races in Europe in February and March every year.

 

[Afrank]

If there´s a virus in the body, and you do a little bit too much (hard too say what´s too much), this virus is searching for "weak point" in the system, and might attack the heart muscle.

Something which made e.g. former Telekom pro Gerd Audehm become an invalid for the rest of his life, and caused deaths in sports.

That´s an ugly issue. Riders like Schleck are allowed to leave races, othgers aren´t, and are risking their health seriously, especially in those races in Europe in February and March every year.

Thanks for the info, if this was going on with Schleck then it probably was a good idea to pull out. Whatever sickness or virus or whatever it is he picked up, I hope it goes away fast.

 

[hrotha]

Why should he risk serious complication like a myocarditis ?

You see, Andy is the boy who cried 'wolf' then dropped his chain trying to flee the scene. We have to take his excuses with a grain of salt.

 

[RHRH19861986]

In general, I think when top riders leave a race at this time of the year and give a reason, it´s 50-50 if it´s true what they blame it to.

Three possibilities:

a) Lack of shape: Don´t believe that, even finishing this race would have had a good effect on his shape then, even finishing 120th.
b) Dangerous blood values: Don´t believe that either, he rather would have had a DNS then.
c) Virus: Seems trustworthy.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Why should he risk serious complication like a myocarditis ?

says who? schleck? the same guy who claimed his lack of gearing was a mechanical accident?

 

[purcell]

If there´s a virus in the body, and you do a little bit too much (hard too say what´s too much), this virus is searching for "weak point" in the system, and might attack the heart muscle.

Something which made e.g. former Telekom pro Gerd Audehm become an invalid for the rest of his life, and caused deaths in sports.

That´s an ugly issue. Riders like Schleck are allowed to leave races, othgers aren´t, and are risking their health seriously, especially in those races in Europe in February and March every year.

Schleck does have a virus. It's called the "I don't want to have to work hard" virus.

It manifests itself in any number of imaginative ways to force retirement from events when the scrutiny of the press may be getting too bright.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Schleck does have a virus. It's called the "I don't want to have to work hard" virus.

It manifests itself in any number of imaginative ways to force retirement from events when the scrutiny of the press may be getting too bright.

quoted for truth

 

[RHRH19861986]

Schleck does have a virus. It's called the "I don't want to have to work hard" virus.

It manifests itself in any number of imaginative ways to force retirement from events when the scrutiny of the press may be getting too bright.

Certainly you´re right. Being awarded the Tour 2010 win was the worst thing that could´ve happened to him.

They have the Tour, Liege and Amstel, I think the Schlecks don´t have the appetite any more.

If you see that Evans, aged 35, will still be leader in 2013´s Tour, getting a huge salary, they (Schlecks) just will ride their remaining years until 35, get the salary and are satiesfied with Top3 or Top5 placings in one or two major races every year.

 

[serfla]

says who? schleck? the same guy who claimed his lack of gearing was a mechanical accident?

I'll tell you what is all about, Ryo.
My source in the Leopard told me that Nissan's withdrawal from sponsor pool caused deficit in the team's budget for this season. Thus, they had to make some changes in training approach. Less money means less time in training camps on high altitude, so they've implemented "cigarette method" I've told you about http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=1096636&postcount=89
Often a rider who's training in this regime can experience cold - like symptoms... Sore throat, coughing, intensified secretion.
So, Andy's just having minor adaptation problems to new training regime.

Greetings from Andy to all of you

 

[Pentacycle]

I'll tell you what is all about, Ryo.
My source in the Leopard told me that Nissan's withdrawal from sponsor pool caused deficit in the team's budget for this season. Thus, they had to make some changes in training approach. Less money means less time in training camps on high altitude, so they've implemented "cigarette method" I've told you about http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=1096636&postcount=89
Often a rider who's training in this regime can experience cold - like symptoms... Sore throat, coughing, intensified secretion.
So, Andy's just having minor adaptation problems to new training regime

Riding Tour of Beijing was all part off the plan An altitude camp just by smoking and breathing smog, genius.







Still you can find lots of articles about the benefits of smoking on Hemoglobin, lung capacity and weight loss, so actually I'm close to starting to believe this ****.

 

[T-Nielsen]

Again, the bandwagon is in full working order and I see my usual seat is ready for me.

I am a little worried though, that the reason given for his withdrawel is covering for the fact, that he is still not over his injury. Maybe I am to suspecious, but I really hope it is just the usual abandoning flue.

 

[Christian]

I am not even gonna bother reading the last couple of pages which I am sure is full of the usual smug dirt that the bloemetje and the likes spew around. (Sorry if this is not the case - but repetition buids reputation I suppose)

Let me try and contribute something useful (futile attempt, I know - ask Einstein about it, or Hermann Hesse).

What happened, then? If, in the official statement from the team, Andy Schleck speaks of respiratory ailments, the story of the stage reveals apparent difficulties to follow the wheels of the peloton in the wet and slippery descends. It is thus that he had to let go at KM 104, on the small road 369. "He seemed to stiffen on the bike and his hands were glued to the breaks", reports Mark Meilleur, former professional track racer and driver of the photograph motorcycle for l'Equipe.

Meilleur, who had the best seat to witness what happened, does not however for one second doubt the good condition of Schleck: "For me, he is in good shape, he just suffers from a lack of self-confidence. From what I saw, he is afraid in the descends and gets more and more tense. And he loses contact without being able to react. Because after that, he stayed 100m behind the peloton for 15km, with headwinds, nothing to protect him and no hope of returning. Therefore, he is not bad physically, because not everyone can do that. Most of the riders disappear straight away, he did more than just hang on.

One time, he was able to return. And even a second time, because the story repeated itself during the wild final. (...) It was only when bordures cut up the peloton, approaching the ocean, when Andy Schleck finally gave in. Same reason, same result.

http://www.lequotidien.lu/les-sports/42083.html

(Sorry if this has been posted before)

 

[T-Nielsen]

I am not even gonna bother reading the last couple of pages which I am sure is full of the usual smug dirt that the bloemetje and the likes spew around. (Sorry if this is not the case - but repetition buids reputation I suppose)

Let me try and contribute something useful (futile attempt, I know - ask Einstein about it, or Hermann Hesse).

What happened, then? If, in the official statement from the team, Andy Schleck speaks of respiratory ailments, the story of the stage reveals apparent difficulties to follow the wheels of the peloton in the wet and slippery descends. It is thus that he had to let go at KM 104, on the small road 369. "He seemed to stiffen on the bike and his hands were glued to the breaks", reports Mark Meilleur, former professional track racer and driver of the photograph motorcycle for l'Equipe.

Meilleur, who had the best seat to witness what happened, does not however for one second doubt the good condition of Schleck: "For me, he is in good shape, he just suffers from a lack of self-confidence. From what I saw, he is afraid in the descends and gets more and more tense. And he loses contact without being able to react. Because after that, he stayed 100m behind the peloton for 15km, with headwinds, nothing to protect him and no hope of returning. Therefore, he is not bad physically, because not everyone can do that. Most of the riders disappear straight away, he did more than just hang on.

One time, he was able to return. And even a second time, because the story repeated itself during the wild final. (...) It was only when bordures cut up the peloton, approaching the ocean, when Andy Schleck finally gave in. Same reason, same result.

http://www.lequotidien.lu/les-sports/42083.html

(Sorry if this has been posted before)

Sounds like a weakness has manifested itself as a problem. A GT losing problem. I hope he starts to forget and acts instead of remembering the bad crashes and only reacts.