Andy Schleck Discussion thread.

[Froome19]

Andy help? He wasn't going to help anyone in the Vuelta. Andy is a joke as a cyclist.

You musn't have watched the tour de suisse last year.

 

[El Pistolero]

You musn't have watched the tour de suisse last year.

Where he rode for his own chances in the break and still lost to Thomas Degendt? Guess not. But since when is the Vuelta the Tour de Suisse? Weird logic you have.

 

[The Hitch]

Disrespect to the main rival is a weakness.

Schleck is the one who disrespects others by saying things like"everyonelooks to me to attack"

 

[airstream]

Andy help? He wasn't going to help anyone in the Vuelta. Andy is a joke as a cyclist.

Is it just your forum image or you really think so? He always helps. PN, Pais Vasco, Suisse. Andy was simply unable to do anything in Oman. Apparently, he only started his training campaign there.

 

[The Hitch]

by the way, dont you think the demonstrative elimination from the vuelta could be sort of settling old scores? surely, theres a strict sporting regime but i don't believe that riders, who don't fight for gc, are not entitled to have a beer at bedtime. more precisely, such a point certainly exists in team rules, but IMO directeurs sportif turn a blind eye at it. a beer bottle appeared on andy's photo after the fall in the 2010 tdf, but riis dared not kick away him then.

How comes sometimes you come up with such beautiful English -usually when defending Andy in serious posts, and yet at other times you post gibberish ?.

 

[The Hitch]

Yes. Perhaps. You think, eleminating Andy and Stuey and showing power was more imprortant than keeping 2 helpers in the team, right?

Ah, it was an unique opportunity to check whether Andy is able to jump in form on the third week without rhyme or reason, as Contador does. Anyway, I think, he would've represented 1-2 attacks.

Contador performing in the mountains of a gt is "without reason "?

 

[airstream]

How comes sometimes you come up with such beautiful English -usually when defending Andy in serious posts, and yet at other times you post gibberish ?.

Are there any rules on what a poster should be? Nobody makes discuss with me. PLS, save your boss manners for somebody else. What, exactly, do you disagree with? What's wrong again?

Contador performing in the mountains of a gt is "without reason "?

Sorry, I was saying wrong. I mean the situation when a rider is out of shape, like Contador in last year's Algarve.

Schleck is the one who disrespects others by saying things like"everyonelooks to me to attack"

it depends on willingness to sight negative and be hung up on it. Seeing "disrespect" in some Contador's statements and moves is not difficult either, believe.

 

[airstream]

Contador performing in the mountains of a gt is "without reason "?

Sorry, I was saying wrong. I mean the situation when a rider is out of shape, like Contador in last year's Algarve.

 

[Angliru]

How comes sometimes you come up with such beautiful English -usually when defending Andy in serious posts, and yet at other times you post gibberish ?.

Curious, huh??!! Hmmmmmmmm.

 

[Froome19]

Where he rode for his own chances in the break and still lost to Thomas Degendt? Guess not. But since when is the Vuelta the Tour de Suisse? Weird logic you have.

Never said it was but from where do you assume that Schleck wouldn't help then? The races he rides such as the Tour de Suisse
Ok he rode in a break very possibly in order to allow Frank and Fuglsang to just sit behind the favorites in one stage out of 7. The others he worked incredibly hard in (though indeed he did give up after that)

 

[Angliru]

Is it just your forum image or you really think so? He always helps. PN, Pais Vasco, Suisse. Andy was simply unable to do anything in Oman. Apparently, he only started his training campaign there.

That doesn't explain his lackadaisical attitude and performance at that year's (2009) Vuelta. Think about it. Frank had to have been quite disappointed to have crashed out of that year's Tour leaving his brother alone to battle for the gc and Tour glory. The Vuelta was his way to make up for that. One would think that Andy would've been motivated to dedicate himself to work for his brother in his quest for a successful Vuelta. That obviously wasn't the case.

 

[El Pistolero]

Never said it was but from where do you assume that Schleck wouldn't help then? The races he rides such as the Tour de Suisse
Ok he rode in a break very possibly in order to allow Frank and Fuglsang to just sit behind the favorites in one stage out of 7. The others he worked incredibly hard in (though indeed he did give up after that)

From watching the ****ing Vuelta that year.

 

[ferryman]

Now where is this evident? Speaking for myself, I admit that I'm a fan of Spanish speaking riders and teams but I also was/am a fan of climbers like Simoni, Pantani, Moncoutie and Garzelli.

Not from you Amigo. Apart from your, erm, slight () dislike of a certain rider we are pretty much on track

 

[ferryman]

Andy help? He wasn't going to help anyone in the Vuelta. Andy is a joke as a cyclist.

He was a disgrace at that Vuelta no doubt. And probably, being young coupled with being not very bright, led to him being led astray. But to describe him as a joke of a cyclist is just simply wrong. Joke as a professional, yep, maybe but as a talent he is no joke. For him to be easily the 2nd best GT rider out there just now given all his flaws, personal, tactical, bike skills, speaks volumes for his talent that he has been the only guy to give AC a run for his money. And probably the only guy that AC will be concerned about in 2013.

 

[Walkman]

How comes sometimes you come up with such beautiful English -usually when defending Andy in serious posts, and yet at other times you post gibberish ?.

Uhm...you can't figure that out?!

The dude is probably Andy's biggest fan on the forum so I don't think it's that weird if he put in more of an effort while writing about Andy.

Just my two cents, might be wrong tho.

 

[cineteq]

Are there any rules on what a poster should be? Nobody makes discuss with me. PLS, save your boss manners for somebody else. What, exactly, do you disagree with? What's wrong again?

You have to forgive him, because he doesn't have a mirror at home.

 

[Angliru]

Not from you Amigo. Apart from your, erm, slight () dislike of a certain rider we are pretty much on track

I can't imagine who you're talking about.

 

[Angliru]

Uhm...you can't figure that out?!

The dude is probably Andy's biggest fan on the forum so I don't think it's that weird if he put in more of an effort while writing about Andy.

Just my two cents, might be wrong tho.

I think it's really Andy himself. The strange rhythm to his posts, rather erratic like Andy's season long off and on form, the flip-flop of his arguments---the evidence is all there.

 

[The Hitch]

You have to forgive him, because he doesn't have a mirror at home.

Actually I praised his English.

Its better than yours

 

[Walkman]

I think it's really Andy himself. The strange rhythm to his posts, rather erratic like Andy's season long off and on form, the flip-flop of his arguments---the evidence is all there.

Hahaha, cracked me up!

 

[airstream]

i never changed my opinion. something looked ambiguously, but its other question. ok, you found the perfect opponent to enjoy your english, if it flatters you. contador's fans' behavior is sort of flip-flop as well. nobody talks about his lies and controversial statements, but almost everyone is eager to say about andy's whining (sure,the most sporting argument ever) in every second post. its not correct. if one tries to estimate both being unbiased - as far as its possible - it should be done in a complex way.

That doesn't explain his lackadaisical attitude and performance at that year's (2009) Vuelta. Think about it.

and what? do you offer part of his fans to stop support or have a venesection? everyone roots for the best in them. live his whining if its easier fo you. i live the fact that the guy flies uphill.

 

[El Pistolero]

He was a disgrace at that Vuelta no doubt. And probably, being young coupled with being not very bright, led to him being led astray. But to describe him as a joke of a cyclist is just simply wrong. Joke as a professional, yep, maybe but as a talent he is no joke. For him to be easily the 2nd best GT rider out there just now given all his flaws, personal, tactical, bike skills, speaks volumes for his talent that he has been the only guy to give AC a run for his money. And probably the only guy that AC will be concerned about in 2013.

Then add the word professional before cyclist.

 

[cineteq]

Actually I praised his English.

When? You're always taking shot at him. Did you buy a mirror yet?

 

[The Hitch]

When?

Here.

by the way, dont you think the demonstrative elimination from the vuelta could be sort of settling old scores? surely, theres a strict sporting regime but i don't believe that riders, who don't fight for gc, are not entitled to have a beer at bedtime. more precisely, such a point certainly exists in team rules, but IMO directeurs sportif turn a blind eye at it. a beer bottle appeared on andy's photo after the fall in the 2010 tdf, but riis dared not kick away him then.

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How comes sometimes you come up with such beautiful English

 

[The Hitch]

Did you buy a mirror yet?

Shouldn't you use the imperfect tense here