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Christian

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The Hitch said:
That may have been true when he was with Garmin in 09 but we are talking about when he was with Sky and did the Giro which was 2010 and Lance never did it that year.
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I believe you misunderstood. After Wiggin's 2009 awakening and subsequent transfer to ManU he (and/or the management) thought it would be a good idea to do what Lance did the year before, that's why they sent him to the Giro.

Wiggins talked about it in his off-season interview where he admitted to his (and/or the management's) mistakes, such as the weather truck

Here is the link:

"But this year, because we had our heads up our arses over the Tour de France, it was like: 'Well, you can't go and do domestic races now. Tour riders don't do that. Lance would never go and do a 10-mile time trial.' We were trying to be too smart about it, too pompous in many ways."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/feature-wiggins-year-of-wisening-up
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Christian

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Zam_Olyas said:
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Quelque chose à lire:Ivan et Andy Schleck duel du prochain Giro? forzaivan.sportblog.fr

http://forzaivan.sportblog.fr/
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Thanks Zasch, this confirms what Airstream quoted. Some interesting quotes from Ivan:

"To know whether he will come or not, I just have to look at him. I can see his intentions in his smile"

"His presence would be a big advantage for me because his team would help us control the race"

"Bruyneel was capable of convincing Lance to do the Giro, it's not impossible that he will convince Andy!"
 
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I really hopes he goes to the Giro. It's ridiculous that he hasn't won a GT yet and he certainly won't be able to win the TDF next year.
 
The Hitch

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Christian said:
I believe you misunderstood. After Wiggin's 2009 awakening and subsequent transfer to ManU he (and/or the management) thought it would be a good idea to do what Lance did the year before, that's why they sent him to the Giro.

Wiggins talked about it in his off-season interview where he admitted to his (and/or the management's) mistakes, such as the weather truck

Here is the link:
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Ah my bad then
 
Angliru

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airstream said:
Bruyneel evaluates chances of Andy's the Giro participation as 50%. The final decision is planned to adopt in December.
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Not going to happen. Bruyneel might be saying it's a 50-50 proposition right now but once the sponsors weigh in and voice the importance of having their best team (that of course includes Andy) at the biggest event in the sport, the liklihood of his Giro participation will disappear.
 
airstream

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Angliru said:
Not going to happen. Bruyneel might be saying it's a 50-50 proposition right now but once the sponsors weigh in and voice the importance of having their best team (that of course includes Andy) at the biggest event in the sport, the liklihood of his Giro participation will disappear.
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Does the rider have a voting power in such a situation? Well, sponsors are interested in the winnings rather than in the presence at the TdF, though it's obvious he would go to the Tour after the Giro.
 
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maltiv said:
I really hopes he goes to the Giro. It's ridiculous that he hasn't won a GT yet and he certainly won't be able to win the TDF next year.
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Wow, how standards can change. The guy is only 26.

Christian said:
Thanks Zasch, this confirms what Airstream quoted. Some interesting quotes from Ivan:

"To know whether he will come or not, I just have to look at him. I can see his intentions in his smile"
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That is only slightly creepy.
 
Midnightfright

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Vino attacks everyone said:
allways thought there was something funny about those 2, how they almost never attacked from each other, allways sitting there grinding beside each other
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And there I was thinking they were just respecting each others abilitys. I feel so niave now.
 
Angliru

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airstream said:
Does the rider have a voting power in such a situation? Well, sponsors are interested in the winnings rather than in the presence at the TdF, though it's obvious he would go to the Tour after the Giro.
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Andy it seems has had a certain control over his training, prep and schedule of events that he participates of course with input from Riis prior to Leopard-Trek. It seems at Leopard there wasn't too much opposition to what "Andy wants" if we were to take into account his statements on staying the course of his previous training program upon learning of Bruyneel taking the reigns of the combined Leopard/Shack teams. I would think though that the hierachy would be of course the sponsors, Bruyneel and then Andy.

Some are anticipating a quantum leap in Andy's ITT under the "expert" tutelage of the great Johann. Maybe he'll do a Michael Rassmussen-like improvement and catch his opponents unware.
 
ferryman

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airstream said:
Does the rider have a voting power in such a situation? Well, sponsors are interested in the winnings rather than in the presence at the TdF, though it's obvious he would go to the Tour after the Giro.
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I'm sure Andy has enough clout if he really wants to ride the Giro. I would love to see him do it. Would probably need most of his TDF team though from this year with him to win it.

I guess nothing will be forthcoming though until the Contador ruling is known.
 
Caruut

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theyoungest said:
Wow, how standards can change. The guy is only 26.
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What makes it ridiculous is the number of near misses he's had when a good opportunity was there.
 
red_flanders

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theyoungest said:
Wow, how standards can change. The guy is only 26.
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Back in the pre EPO days, that was actually pretty old to be showing your colors. Things change back and forth I guess. Andy did show himself to be a contender early though, he's a legit talent.

Anyway, he's got several good years left, but unless something dramatic happens to his time trailing and his level of whining, he's not going to get it done.
 
El Pistolero

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theyoungest said:
Wow, how standards can change. The guy is only 26.
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I think we can safely assume Andy Schleck won't be winning the Tour next year because of the amount of time trials.

That means that Schleck will be 28 years old at the start of the 2013 Tour de France... And he still has to win one.
 
Havetts

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El Pistolero said:
I think we can safely assume Andy Schleck won't be winning the Tour next year because of the amount of time trials.

That means that Schleck will be 28 years old at the start of the 2013 Tour de France... And he still has to win one.
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Or he has won one after January 2012..
 
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