Andy Schleck Discussion thread.

[Zam_Olyas]

 

[Zam_Olyas]

 

[airstream]

ok name me another poster on this forum who thinks the giro is a second rate race and any1 who does well there hasn't proved anything because he hasn't raced against the almighty boss in july.

hm, how to put it.. i guess, absolutely everybody thinks so, if we say about quality, grade and tension of rivalry. Giro just has unique atmosphere, unrepeatable emotional perception ( and I'm hung up on it in may as well), steepest climbs, some other colorings.. again, fans are hungry for high mountain action and the giro comes first... in fine, all that doesn't let call the giro a second rate race whereas it is.

 

[Parrulo]

hm, how to put it.. i guess, absolutely everybody think so, if we say about quality, grade and tension of rivalry. Giro just has unique atmosphere, unrepeatable emotional perception, steepest climbs, some other colorings.. again, fans are hungry for high mountain action and the giro comes first... in fine, all that doesn't let call the giro a second rate race whereas it is.

absolutely every1? lol my work here is done.

 

[airstream]

absolutely every1? lol my work here is done.

come on i like the tour and the giro, treat other races quite reservedly. yeah, well, the difference between the tour and the giro is quite big. there is nothing wrong

Are you a troll, a comedian, a philosopher or just a fanboy?

you forgot the most important. i'm a politician.

 

[c&cfan]

come on i like the tour and the giro, treat other races quite reservedly. yeah, well, the difference between the tour and the giro is quite big. there is nothing wrong

there is a difference, but only because people like you see it and defend riders that do not represent cycling with honor.

 

[Carols]

Andy a is real boss, main boss, the only boss, BOSS, whatever you like.

This what I love about you airstream, you make me laugh so hard the tears roll down my face

Good on you though, you stand by your man. I truly hope he gives you a reason to Brag soon

 

[El Pistolero]

 

[airstream]

there is a difference, but only because people like you see it and defend riders that do not represent cycling with honor.

respect, honor...theme is bottomless and sinks in one's view of life. оk, what is cycling honor?

 

[plooton]

respect, honor...theme is bottomless and sinks in one's view of life. оk, what is cycling honor?

Not only you stands with Lux. one, I see you must be a poet.

 

[woodenswan]

i am beginning to think it is sheer awesomeness . . .

fixed it

what else can it be when gems like this are produced:

some people can breathe underwater and airstream can't and they say to him: BREATHE! NO, i can't and i won't.

thats a quote for the ages! reminds me of the legendary fake Vino account on twitter.

Vino love the rain. Vino love the cold. Vino love the hot. Vino not feel the difference.

 

[RHRH19861986]

Andy is likeable and well-respected, for being a nice person with huge talent... But maybe this has turned out to be his weak point.
Wouldn´t be surprised if he lacks of motivation, now, with having Liege (2009) and the Tour (2010) to his palmares.
Now normally, his main ambition for 2012 should be the Worlds in Valkenburg, where it´s his kind of preferred race, and where he can become world champion.
Then he´d be 27 and having won the maximum he could win in his sports, and more than a guy like Kloden, not likeable at all, and ten years older, has ever won and will ever win...
And Andy did all this with bike handling skills close to David Moncoutie´s... As seen in yesterdays Fleche Brabaconne once again

 

[airstream]

I think there are enough people who support the Schlecks, but most likely they are just too intelligent (or mature) and don't want to argue with the mainstream. I totally understand them and probably only juvenility doesn't allow me to follow their example. In fact, in the fullness of time I cheered for Basso but then OP broke out and I got I can support him no longer. I strongly dislike 2006 and 2007 years when everyday it seemed anyone could be caught and I nearly started cooling down to cycling. Yet then the 2007 Giro took place, that became a good reason to get myself together and continue to follow the races with renewed vigor.

 

[RHRH19861986]

I think there are enough people who support the Schlecks, but most likely they are just too intelligent (or mature) and don't want to argue with the mainstream. I totally understand them and probably only juvenility doesn't allow me to follow their example. In fact, in the fullness of time I cheered for Basso but then OP broke out and I got I can support him no longer. I strongly dislike 2006 and 2007 years when everyday it seemed anyone could be caught and I nearly started cooling down to cycling. Yet then the 2007 Giro took place, that became a good reason to get myself together and continue to follow the races with renewed vigor.

Yes, I agree as in 2006, 2007, cycling has been damaged a lot.
But I´d never like or dislike a rider only about doping issues. It´s rather the way the guys handle to speak or don´t speak about this issue. Someone like Voigt is IMHO one of the worse guys, he lies about this "D"issue, also when he´s not even forced to do so. I prefer riders who avoid speaking about it, and when asked, find a way to not tell the truth, but not lie either.
I would bet a million Euros on the Schlecks not being clean (clean = never using PEDs), but nevertheless, I like these guys.
Most of the clean guys just don´t have the results, their number in general is just quite low. If I should just be interested in the careers of the "non-dopers", it would be maybe about Moncoutie in the GTs and e.g. Elmiger in the cobbled classics, who deliver top results every now and then. Most clean riders just don´t have the results, and it would be up to them to also use PEDs at least every now and then.

 

[Forunculo]

I think there are enough people who support the Schlecks, but most likely they are just too intelligent (or mature) and don't want to argue with the mainstream. I totally understand them and probably only juvenility doesn't allow me to follow their example. In fact, in the fullness of time I cheered for Basso but then OP broke out and I got I can support him no longer. I strongly dislike 2006 and 2007 years when everyday it seemed anyone could be caught and I nearly started cooling down to cycling. Yet then the 2007 Giro took place, that became a good reason to get myself together and continue to follow the races with renewed vigor.

The mainstream is pro-Schleck.

Why do you think Frank is a Tour contender?

 

[The Hitch]

fixed it

what else can it be when gems like this are produced:


thats a quote for the ages! reminds me of the legendary fake Vino account on twitter.

Vino love the rain. Vino love the cold. Vino love the hot. Vino not feel the difference.

Which vino in an act of stupidity and malice, had banned.

Wouldn't say that's what airstream does. vino account was positive jokes about vino , full of praise. airstream meanwhile is mostly negative towards other cyclists rather than praise Andy. his first choice is not comical hyperbole but rather the tried and tested combination of hijacking and baiting.

not that i don't appreciate some good trolling now and again. now wonderlance you would love.

 

[The Hitch]

I think there are enough people who support the Schlecks, but most likely they are just too intelligent (or mature) and don't want to argue with the mainstream. I totally understand them and probably only juvenility doesn't allow me to follow their example. In fact, in the fullness of time I cheered for Basso but then OP broke out and I got I can support him no longer. I strongly dislike 2006 and 2007 years when everyday it seemed anyone could be caught and I nearly started cooling down to cycling. Yet then the 2007 Giro took place, that became a good reason to get myself together and continue to follow the races with renewed vigor.

Ok i kind of take back some of what i just said. this was quite good. and im not adressing that to airstream but rather to the.mind behind the airstream character.

 

[Ripper]

Yes, I agree as in 2006, 2007, cycling has been damaged a lot.
But I´d never like or dislike a rider only about doping issues. It´s rather the way the guys handle to speak or don´t speak about this issue. Someone like Voigt is IMHO one of the worse guys, he lies about this "D"issue, also when he´s not even forced to do so. I prefer riders who avoid speaking about it, and when asked, find a way to not tell the truth, but not lie either.
I would bet a million Euros on the Schlecks not being clean (clean = never using PEDs), but nevertheless, I like these guys.
Most of the clean guys just don´t have the results, their number in general is just quite low. If I should just be interested in the careers of the "non-dopers", it would be maybe about Moncoutie in the GTs and e.g. Elmiger in the cobbled classics, who deliver top results every now and then. Most clean riders just don´t have the results, and it would be up to them to also use PEDs at least every now and then.

You like the Shreks and not the Jens!? Bah

 

[airstream]

Which vino in an act of stupidity and malice, had banned.

Wouldn't say that's what airstream does. vino account was positive jokes about vino , full of praise. airstream meanwhile is mostly negative towards other cyclists rather than praise Andy. his first choice is not comical hyperbole but rather the tried and tested combination of hijacking and baiting.

not that i don't appreciate some good trolling now and again. now wonderlance you would love.

Alright, it's your opinion. Although, I find the fact you are always eager to estimate the forum members and their logic pretty obsessive. You dislike me - excellent, no problem. Luckily, I found many other interesting cycling fans for talking.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I think there are enough people who support the Schlecks, but most likely they are just too intelligent (or mature) and don't want to argue with the mainstream. I totally understand them and probably only juvenility doesn't allow me to follow their example. In fact, in the fullness of time I cheered for Basso but then OP broke out and I got I can support him no longer. I strongly dislike 2006 and 2007 years when everyday it seemed anyone could be caught and I nearly started cooling down to cycling. Yet then the 2007 Giro took place, that became a good reason to get myself together and continue to follow the races with renewed vigor.

For you it was 2007 Giro, for me it was 2007 Tour where kiddo!Alberto beat Chicken man.

 

[RHRH19861986]

You like the Shreks and not the Jens!? Bah

Shame on me!!

 

[airstream]

I would bet a million Euros on the Schlecks not being clean (clean = never using PEDs), but nevertheless, I like these guys.
Most of the clean guys just don´t have the results, their number in general is just quite low. If I should just be interested in the careers of the "non-dopers", it would be maybe about Moncoutie in the GTs and e.g. Elmiger in the cobbled classics, who deliver top results every now and then. Most clean riders just don´t have the results, and it would be up to them to also use PEDs at least every now and then.

I believe in clean cycling since 2008 at least. Riding got much more closed and conservative. They realize that any sufficient move can be fraught with self-dropping. Look at how many new faces we see. My point is previously as soon as the race came into the mountains superelite got a huge advantage in the form of transfusions, all the rest guys clearly recognized that and even didnot fight. Nowadays everyone is equal in this regard and it's superb. It largely depends on what we call doping. Until recently there's been a wide range of legal pharmacological agents, injections including. It is clear that cycling is too hard to ride GT's without an appropriate medical preparation.

Why do you think Frank is a Tour contender

I've never said anything like that.

 

[Froome19]

Andy is likeable and well-respected, for being a nice person with huge talent... But maybe this has turned out to be his weak point.
Wouldn´t be surprised if he lacks of motivation, now, with having Liege (2009) and the Tour (2010) to his palmares.
Now normally, his main ambition for 2012 should be the Worlds in Valkenburg, where it´s his kind of preferred race, and where he can become world champion.
Then he´d be 27 and having won the maximum he could win in his sports, and more than a guy like Kloden, not likeable at all, and ten years older, has ever won and will ever win...
And Andy did all this with bike handling skills close to David Moncoutie´s... As seen in yesterdays Fleche Brabaconne once again

That particular win does not mean anything to him, so it seems like he will carry on chasing the tour singlemindedly at least for another year most likely until the end of his career

 

[hrotha]

For you it was 2007 Giro, for me it was 2007 Tour where kiddo!Alberto beat Chicken man.

What? Chicken kicked Contador's ***.

 

[Machu Picchu]

For you it was 2007 Giro, for me it was 2007 Tour where kiddo!Alberto beat Chicken man.

What? Chicken kicked Contador's ***.

Wasn't Rasmussen 3mins+ ahead with only a few stages left, only chance (no chance really) Conti had was the remaining tt, it was game over before Rabo yanked him.