"another interesting piece I found on the UCI and president Pat McQuaid " Thread

[ebandit]

cas

ok the heats increasing for fat pat.......there are calls for him to resign

AFLD dont wish to work with uci etc etc

and now cas overturn uci's decision not to award WT place to katusha

how long can he last?

 

[DirtyWorks]

Pat's Time in South Africa

Very well documented proof of McQaid's time in Apartheid South Africa. The writer give some historic context to why South Africa's Apartheid rule was so despicable for the younger reader. IMHO, the writing is a little chaotic, but English is a second language to the writer.

http://transparencyinsportblog.word...when-jimpats-penis-stood-for-racial-purity-2/

 

[DirtyWorks]

The rumour is the UCI's WorldTour format apparently to be overhauled for 2015.

I suspect we'll some substantial changes including events resembling the breakaway league concept of short stage races among other efforts to better monetize cycling.

The Big losers will be everyone involved in highly ranked UCI events just below the highest race category.

 

[Race Radio]

“We sent an inquiry to the UCI, but it turned out that we had to pay seven million euros to a private company for the license for the Tour of Russia,”

“This is also a question I intend to discuss with the UCI. Why should I pay seven million? We thought the organization of the race was included in this price, but we were wrong.”

http://en.rsport.ru/other_sports/20130227/648034441.html

 

[DirtyWorks]

http://en.rsport.ru/other_sports/20130227/648034441.html

So THAT'S how they do it. If you want the elites, then not only do you jump through the UCI's administrative hoops, you pay "a private company" for some additional privileges, ohh like getting your event approved by the UCI.

Hein is growing cycling all right!!! It makes complete sense why they want races in far-off locales where no one watches. It's worth millions.

 

[skippy]

Wonder what " hoops " , these people will have to hop through ?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...said-to-discuss-breakaway-cycling-series.html

Another OP for phat mc squat to avoid being dumped in September ?

 

[Benotti69]

http://en.rsport.ru/other_sports/20130227/648034441.html

You knows things are FUBAR'd when the Russkis are *****ing about making the requisite back handers

 

[peterst6906]

You knows things are FUBAR'd when the Russkis are *****ing about making the requisite back handers

Yes, though I can see the Russians being ****ed off about paying a foreign company for the rights to the tour of their own country.

Business practices inside Russia are one thing, but being outplayed by a foreign entity wouldn't sit well. The Russians are very proud and most of the population would take the view that in order to hold the Tour of Russia, it is Russia that should be paid by the UCI, not the other way around.

More evidence of UCI corrupt practices in this.

 

[blackcat]

tour de suisse bank accounts brought to you by USB

 

[Benotti69]

Yes, though I can see the Russians being ****ed off about paying a foreign company for the rights to the tour of their own country.

Business practices inside Russia are one thing, but being outplayed by a foreign entity wouldn't sit well. The Russians are very proud and most of the population would take the view that in order to hold the Tour of Russia, it is Russia that should be paid by the UCI, not the other way around.

More evidence of UCI corrupt practices in this.

When you want the UCI to guarantee the top teams, you gotta pay.

They can hold their own race but wont get anyone from the tops teams to race.

Welcome to the world of making Pat and Hein rich. It is why these guys dont give sh!t about anything to do with doping or have no intentions of standing down.

I doubt many of the top teams are interested to go and race in Russia otherwise there would be no need for 7million.

 

[DirtyWorks]

When you want the UCI to guarantee the top teams, you gotta pay.

I'd actually be okay if the money went into the UCI in exchange for a slot and points on the elite calendar, but it's not. Or, at least that's what Makarov is suggesting.

Keep in mind he's got a senior position inside the UCI as the President(?) of the European Federations. He's also sponsoring the European federations.

He might be an interesting source for more controversy.

 

[Benotti69]

I'd actually be okay if the money went into the UCI in exchange for a slot and points on the elite calendar, but it's not. Or, at least that's what Makarov is suggesting.

Keep in mind he's got a senior position inside the UCI as the President(?) of the European Federations. He's also sponsoring the European federations.

He might be an interesting source for more controversy.

I would be okay if they paid for lots of things, but it is where the money goes is and was always the problem.

 

[heart_attack_man]

It seems to me that it's just exactly like the Formula 1 business model. Private company collecting the rights (FOM), oversight by the FIA, and the leaders of the FIA put in place by the votes of motoring clubs all around the world.

If you have a look at the link here you will see the list. 1 vote a piece. Lobbying normally happens hard in the African countries as votes are easy to come by. It also doesn't take into account the number of members, so for example the AA in Britain has the same amount of voting rights as the Zambia Motorsport Association.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FIA_member_organisations

It then also means that the FIA are able to do pretty much whatever they want due to the fact that they can't get voted out. It's also why they are so hell-bent on "promoting and globalising" motorsport (though for F1 they did this some years ago). We're seeing the same thing with the UCI now. Not sure how many of you have done the UCI survey lately, but there's certainly some mention of globalising the sport. The reason for this is that by creating these federations, it's another vote in the bag.

Hospitality and trackside advertising are run by the Formula One Group, through its dedicated arms Allsport Management and APM.

I'm sure it's only a matter of time until something similar is in place for cycling. (unless it already is...).

It's the same old adage - privatise the profits, socialise the losses. It's worked in capitalism for a long time now.

I'm relatively certain that Pat and Hein see themselves as Bernie Ecclestone and Max Mosley (heh heh) / Jean Todt.

The best we can hope for is a dungeon, a mistress and a camera...

 

[D-Queued]

I have been looking for this quote for some time due to its utter absurdity.

Is this what you're looking for?

http://cyclocosm.com/2007/01/pound-mcquaid-flaunt-job-security-valverde-rumors/

“There is a clash going on at the moment between two cultures, the Anglo-Saxon and what I might call the mafia Western European culture…The Western European Culture is a culture that has to some extent – I won’t say condones doping and cheating practices – but because of their culture in life, because of the way they deal with everything else in life they accept certain practices…”

“The Anglo-Saxon [approach], which would be here [the Netherlands], it would be Germany, the United Kingdom, Denmark – is the complete opposite…it is very important that at the end of the day the Anglo-Saxon approach wins out – because if it doesn’t, then the sport is doomed.”

If they ever start that UCI enquiry again, this should be the first statement reviewed. Followed, of course, by evidence from Telekom, Riis, etc.

Dave.

 

[ultimobici]

I have been looking for this quote for some time due to its utter absurdity.



“There is a clash going on at the moment between two cultures, the Anglo-Saxon and what I might call the mafia Western European culture…The Western European Culture is a culture that has to some extent – I won’t say condones doping and cheating practices – but because of their culture in life, because of the way they deal with everything else in life they accept certain practices…”

“The Anglo-Saxon [approach], which would be here [the Netherlands], it would be Germany, the United Kingdom, Denmark – is the complete opposite…it is very important that at the end of the day the Anglo-Saxon approach wins out – because if it doesn’t, then the sport is doomed.”

If they ever start that UCI enquiry again, this should be the first statement reviewed. Followed, of course, by evidence from Telekom, Riis, etc.

Dave.

Nothing like a bit of racial stereotyping, eh? I imagine many an Irishman cringes every time their compatriot opens his mouth!

 

[MarkvW]

Nothing like a bit of racial stereotyping, eh? I imagine many an Irishman cringes every time their compatriot opens his mouth!

Cultural stereotyping.

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

That quote is enough to reveal that Phat's an insane, geriatric, xenophobic nut job.

Lotsa hate for some of the biggest cycling nations out there. Nice stance for the head of an international federation.

Sack Pat...

 

[l.Harm]

45 minute interview with Hein Verbruggen (Dutch)

http://nos.nl/video/483144-volledig-interview-verbruggen.html

 

[thirteen]

Daniel Benson ‏@dnlbenson

McQuaid moves closer and closer to another term as UCI President http://www.uci.ch/Modules/ENews/ENe...s/UCI/UCI8/layout.asp?MenuID=MTYzMDg&LangId=2 …

 

[D-Queued]

Daniel Benson ‏@dnlbenson

McQuaid moves closer and closer to another term as UCI President

And, without the UCIIC, or any sort of replacement, what is there to stop him?

Our survey responses?

Dave.

 

[86TDFWinner]

Sack Pat...

That seems to be becoming increasingly more difficult to do as the months roll on. Nice thought though.

 

[sniper]

That seems to be becoming increasingly more difficult to do as the months roll on. Nice thought though.

exactly, he seems to be sitting this out, waiting for it to blow over, as expected.

good thing cycling has already changed internally.

 

[D-Queued]

That quote is enough to reveal that Phat's an insane, geriatric, xenophobic nut job.

Lotsa hate for some of the biggest cycling nations out there. Nice stance for the head of an international federation.

Sack Pat...

Let's just start with the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune in Denmark.

How could he have possibly predicted history (sic)?

“The Anglo-Saxon [approach], which would be here [the Netherlands], it would be Germany, the United Kingdom, Denmark – is the complete opposite…it is very important that at the end of the day the Anglo-Saxon approach wins out – because if it doesn’t, then the sport is doomed.”

When he made that statement, the following had already occurred:

three of the five members of the Danish national road team doped at the 2004 Athens Olympics

And, barely four months later Bjarne butted in:

At the end of April 2007, former Riis' soigneur Jeff d'Hont wrote a book about the doping practices of Riis and other riders during his time in the cycling business.[16] ...on 25 May 2007 Riis issued a press release that he also had made "mistakes" in the past,[20] and in the following press conference confessed to taking EPO, growth hormone and cortisone for 5 years, from 1993 to 1998, including during his victory in the 1996 Tour de France

Surely Phat must have been clowning around. Or, maybe he really is the clown that the Swiss courts say that he isn't.

forbids Floyd Landis to state that the Union Cycliste Internationale, Patrick (Pat) McQuaid and/or Henricus (Hein) Verbruggen ... are clowns...

Fortunately, I am not Floyd Landis and am not bound by this ruling in the Swiss Courts. Thus, I can state emphatically and accurately that Pat McQuaid is a clown.

Dave.

 

[Basecase]

McQuaid set for another term

Bookies odds and general media vibes would seem to indicate Pat McQuaid will be reelected.

Thoughts? More importantly - actions?

 

[Cobblestones]

Bookies odds and general media vibes would seem to indicate Pat McQuaid will be reelected.

Thoughts? More importantly - actions?

Give up on cycling for a few years. After seeing the PN results, I decided to just watch the spring classics this year and forget everything else until Lombardia. Can't take the BS anymore.