Anybody? It seems like everybody thinks he doped. This is for past and present day. Also throw in the US Postal claims that Floyd has made. Was the team clean?
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Anybody believe Lance is clean?
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BroDeal said:
I actually really do feel sorry for this new generation of wet behind the ears Cat 5 / club rider noobs. It's a pretty crappy time to be getting into cycling when you can't even believe in miracles for your first couple of years of riding!
"It's okay honey, yes all the pros are on drugs, the star of the sport is the biggest fraud in history yeah, but I'm pretty sure that it's a clean and healthy hobby for amateurs, I think? Now is it okay if I buy a $5K Madone?"
No evidence of doping .YET!!!!! time will tell. and Lance or anyone else will not admitt anything .
It seems that by what you said, everybody at once doped when they first started out as amateurs and juniors considering the fact that doping has been a part of cycling since forever. When you see that Eddy Merckx, Sean Kelly etc are doping, you do it. Monkey see monkey do no?
I dont know what you mean by miracles, I dont look up to Lance Armstrong.
And don't patronize me, it's not like I go and slit my wrists everytime I find out someone tested positive for doping.
I dont know what you mean by miracles, I dont look up to Lance Armstrong.
And don't patronize me, it's not like I go and slit my wrists everytime I find out someone tested positive for doping.
Now everybody be nice!
@Eric8 - it might be worth reading some of the prior threads in the Clinic. I think you will find a lot of really useful information... and that might spark some questions that haven't been asked before.
But please don't be put off asking or posting because some of us have been over this a few times before
@Eric8 - it might be worth reading some of the prior threads in the Clinic. I think you will find a lot of really useful information... and that might spark some questions that haven't been asked before.
But please don't be put off asking or posting because some of us have been over this a few times before
Lance's reaction to close questioning says it all. The guy may have cheated throughout his career - the difference between him and other riders is that he had better advisors and was able to conceal more than most. I really hope he gets nailed bloody hard. He does not come across as a nice person and I don't really like guys like that being part of my sport. He has always been rude, excessively so, to anyone who has queried his pitch and he's done it again in Australia. Go home Lance. Time to quit and admit.
brianf7 said:
No evidence? how about 7 TdF wins during one of the dirtiest periods of the sport?
brianf7 said:
positive tests from 99 TdF containing epo?
dodgy backdated TUE from 99 TdF for steroids
Numbers of T/E being over the 6-1 ratio threshold for steroid doping
Bribing UCI
Blood passport anomalies from 2009 TdF
Link to Dr Ferarri
Landis allegations
Andreu Allegations
Stephen Swart Allegations
Threatening anti doping riders, Simeoni and Bassons
Being anti anti-doping Journalists.
Trying to destroy Greg Lemond.
etc
etc
etc....
Yep i suppose there no evidence
brianf7 said:
That's what my folks think. They didn't believe there were many allegations against armstrong and that it would be front page news if someone alledged armstrong to be a doper. I gave up after that trying to convince them otherwise.
Its mainly the newbies who think that Lance is clean ...
Didnt realise that I have only had 3 posts here! Well not me, I believe Lance to be guilty. Winning 7 TDF in a field full of dopers ... does anyone also think that he rides a white horse, wears shinning armour, plants trees to combat global warming, and drives a Prius?
Didnt realise that I have only had 3 posts here! Well not me, I believe Lance to be guilty. Winning 7 TDF in a field full of dopers ... does anyone also think that he rides a white horse, wears shinning armour, plants trees to combat global warming, and drives a Prius?
noomster said:
what has been so fascinating is how a decade ago only a small minority refused to believe - and we were shunned as "bitter" and "jealous"
10 yars later and the only people saying he is innocent are Lance and people he pays to represent him, and a small hardcore of deluded kool aid drinkers whose need to believe in something miraculous outweighs their rationality. Sadly, many of these peoples lives have been touched by cancer - but it is not an excuse for stupidity, and not a reason to let Lance get away with it.
Oh, And dipsh*ts who fall for the alpha male "how do you like dem apples" thing due to unresolved issues with their self esteem and masculine identity.
Cut the newbies some slack. Nobody gets into the PEDs side of things before getting into cycling, with the exception of LA.
Nah, just not willing to condemn people on the basis of posts by deluded 50 year olds sitting behing their computer thinking they know everything about cycling with a picture of Victoria Pendleton as their desktop.rolfrae said:Are you Bradley Wiggins?
See what I did there?
I know allegations are only anecdotal evidence but there are so many allegations from so many diffrent sources over so many years that one would have to be a grade A conspiracy theorist to believe that all of them are lying.
SC1990 said:
i'm not 50 and i dont have pendelton as my desktop and i prefer to sit in front my mac.
sorry to disappoint
Cimacoppi49 said:The Uniballer might be clean now.
well when he read the SI article he might have had a moment where he 'cleansed' himself involuntarily......
rolfrae said:
It's a Bradley Wiggins quote on the type of people who are on cycling forums. The 'think they know everything' bit is very true, mind that happens on forums everywhere.
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