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MVDP from hero to zero in a day. Bit of a tactical fail by BMC in the finale. Nice win for Joyce.
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TV2 is the second largest TV-channel in Norway, and not by any means a sports channel. It is mostly an entertainment channel. In order to attract enough viewers they really do have to make more out of it than «just» a bike race. They do this type of thing with the Norwegian races and with the TdF. And it is very popular. Attracts viewers of all ages that might not even normally watches sports at all. It might annoy some hardcore bike fans a bit, but at the same time it introduces the sport to thousands of others in a «gentle» way.
Norwegian TV channels (NRK and TV2) have used the same strategy for chess. The similarity between chess and cycling is that it fills up a lot of the day, often for many weeks. There is absolutely no way they could send this on the main channels without dumbing it down a bit. I actually usually like it.
tobydawq said:
TV2 is the second largest TV-channel in Norway, and not by any means a sports channel. It is mostly an entertainment channel. In order to attract enough viewers they really do have to make more out of it than «just» a bike race. They do this type of thing with the Norwegian races and with the TdF. And it is very popular. Attracts viewers of all ages that might not even normally watches sports at all. It might annoy some hardcore bike fans a bit, but at the same time it introduces the sport to thousands of others in a «gentle» way.
Norwegian TV channels (NRK and TV2) have used the same strategy for chess. The similarity between chess and cycling is that it fills up a lot of the day, often for many weeks. There is absolutely no way they could send this on the main channels without dumbing it down a bit. I actually usually like it.
- Nov 16, 2013
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It of course didn't help, that I had no idea what the old man was saying. But it was way too late in the stage to be acceptable IMO. But if they are showing the entire stages I can understand that they are having some intermezzos.
Though I have to say that TV2 in Denmark recently has gone in the other direction. Years ago, we would have to see different celebrities riding on a simulator bike up a mountain, watch an annoying reporter talk about everything and nothing with random people and the likes.
Now there's nothing of that. No interruptions except for pre-race interviews and the news at 3 pm. No commercials. Even on the complete Tour stages. It's perfect.
olavni said:
It of course didn't help, that I had no idea what the old man was saying. But it was way too late in the stage to be acceptable IMO. But if they are showing the entire stages I can understand that they are having some intermezzos.
Though I have to say that TV2 in Denmark recently has gone in the other direction. Years ago, we would have to see different celebrities riding on a simulator bike up a mountain, watch an annoying reporter talk about everything and nothing with random people and the likes.
Now there's nothing of that. No interruptions except for pre-race interviews and the news at 3 pm. No commercials. Even on the complete Tour stages. It's perfect.
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People here a being a bit ridicolous. He's not a climber (unlike the dumb talk of people that thought he would be a TDF winner). Anything longer than a certain km of climbing he will get dropped.
He's simply too heavy for a climb like the one today. Plus no team. No shame in that.\Zinoviev Letter said:
People here a being a bit ridicolous. He's not a climber (unlike the dumb talk of people that thought he would be a TDF winner). Anything longer than a certain km of climbing he will get dropped.
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I would love that, but I don't think Norway is there yet. This is mainly a winter sports nation and even though the interest in cycling has grown a lot in Norway - the knowledge among many of the viewers is still low. Arctic Race is also so far north that some of the people and places are somewhat exotic and unknown even to many Norwegians in the south. The tourist industry is heavily involved as sponsors and they want to focus on much more than a sporting event.
tobydawq said:
I would love that, but I don't think Norway is there yet. This is mainly a winter sports nation and even though the interest in cycling has grown a lot in Norway - the knowledge among many of the viewers is still low. Arctic Race is also so far north that some of the people and places are somewhat exotic and unknown even to many Norwegians in the south. The tourist industry is heavily involved as sponsors and they want to focus on much more than a sporting event.
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1). Mathieu has always climbed very well, even in the semi medium mountains. He even finished 2nd on the Ballon d'Alsace once, in front of some really good names.
2). It wasn't even that hard of a climb. It was 6% for a good three kilometers.
3). He wasn't just getting dropped by Fuglsang and Chernetski. He was getting dropped by Wanty rejects Kreder and Van Melsen. While Robin Carpenter and Benjamin Declerq were enjoying the view and on a casual stroll, Mathieu was huffing and puffing his way up the road.
He was either exhausted from yet another day of echelons, or he had a bad day. We know that when Mathieu is bad, he is terrible.
There are several reasons I completely disagree with this post.Dekker_Tifosi said:
1). Mathieu has always climbed very well, even in the semi medium mountains. He even finished 2nd on the Ballon d'Alsace once, in front of some really good names.
2). It wasn't even that hard of a climb. It was 6% for a good three kilometers.
3). He wasn't just getting dropped by Fuglsang and Chernetski. He was getting dropped by Wanty rejects Kreder and Van Melsen. While Robin Carpenter and Benjamin Declerq were enjoying the view and on a casual stroll, Mathieu was huffing and puffing his way up the road.
He was either exhausted from yet another day of echelons, or he had a bad day. We know that when Mathieu is bad, he is terrible.
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On your 2) point. Yes it was 6% for 3-4 km, but this also includes some long false flats. The climbs are in fact much longer than what they seem. In any case I think the wind conditions were extreme and this made the stage special in so many ways. One of the Joker riders said he was scared in parts of the race and August Jensen crashed when his front wheel blew away under him. Not a stage to conclude from, but definitely one for the strong men with a cool head, brave heart and tactical wisdom.
DNP-Old said:
On your 2) point. Yes it was 6% for 3-4 km, but this also includes some long false flats. The climbs are in fact much longer than what they seem. In any case I think the wind conditions were extreme and this made the stage special in so many ways. One of the Joker riders said he was scared in parts of the race and August Jensen crashed when his front wheel blew away under him. Not a stage to conclude from, but definitely one for the strong men with a cool head, brave heart and tactical wisdom.
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Stage 3 Honningsvåg to Hammerfest 194 km
Starts near to North Cape, the most northerly point on mainland Europe, and goes through North Cape Tunnel at 6.8 km long (deatils at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Cape_Tunnel ) As it goes to 212 m under the sea level, I think that beats some of the low points in the Netherlands!
Steep finish -
Starts near to North Cape, the most northerly point on mainland Europe, and goes through North Cape Tunnel at 6.8 km long (deatils at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Cape_Tunnel ) As it goes to 212 m under the sea level, I think that beats some of the low points in the Netherlands!
Steep finish -
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That's a really cool detail in the profile with the tunnel.
Robert5091 said:Stage 3 Honningsvåg to Hammerfest 194 km
Starts near to North Cape, the most northerly point on mainland Europe, and goes through North Cape Tunnel at 6.8 km long (deatils at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Cape_Tunnel ) As it goes to 212 m under the sea level, I think that beats some of the low points in the Netherlands!
Steep finish -
That's a really cool detail in the profile with the tunnel.
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Aah. I kinda thought it looked like they're going under-water…
Robert5091 said:Stage 3 Honningsvåg to Hammerfest 194 km
Starts near to North Cape, the most northerly point on mainland Europe, and goes through North Cape Tunnel at 6.8 km long (deatils at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Cape_Tunnel ) As it goes to 212 m under the sea level, I think that beats some of the low points in the Netherlands!
Aah. I kinda thought it looked like they're going under-water…
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- Mar 22, 2010
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To the first bolded part, it is on Mageroya Island, so not technically on mainland Europe (otherwise the tunnel wouldn't be necessary)
As to the second, I'm assuming this was deliberately exagerrated: nowhere in the Netherlands is more than about 5 or 10m below sea level. The only road comparable in altitude (or lack thereof: Bassitude? Bathytude?) would be in the Jordan Rift Valley (Sea of Galilee to the Dead Sea).*
But you've got to love a Cat 1 climb that tops out at 2m.
* Edit: Wikipedia tells me otherwise: there are 2 other , deeper Norwegian road tunnels: Bømlafjord and Eiksund. You live and learn.
Robert5091 said:Stage 3 Honningsvåg to Hammerfest 194 km
Starts near to North Cape, the most northerly point on mainland Europe, and goes through North Cape Tunnel at 6.8 km long (deatils at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Cape_Tunnel ) As it goes to 212 m under the sea level, I think that beats some of the low points in the Netherlands!
Steep finish -
To the first bolded part, it is on Mageroya Island, so not technically on mainland Europe (otherwise the tunnel wouldn't be necessary)
As to the second, I'm assuming this was deliberately exagerrated: nowhere in the Netherlands is more than about 5 or 10m below sea level. The only road comparable in altitude (or lack thereof: Bassitude? Bathytude?) would be in the Jordan Rift Valley (Sea of Galilee to the Dead Sea).*
But you've got to love a Cat 1 climb that tops out at 2m.
* Edit: Wikipedia tells me otherwise: there are 2 other , deeper Norwegian road tunnels: Bømlafjord and Eiksund. You live and learn.
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Breakaway at 3ish minutes (haven't been able to figure out who)
Astana in front of the Peloton.
Under 60 K to go.
Astana in front of the Peloton.
Under 60 K to go.
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Nice 1-2 from the CX riders.
Toupalik easily the best from the break and VdP easily the best in the peloton
Toupalik easily the best from the break and VdP easily the best in the peloton
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Chapeau Adam Toupalik! Nice win, played it cool as the chase was nearly on them. Great PR for Corenden-Circus.
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