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Armstrong Fractures Collarbone - will miss giro????

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JavierOtxoa said:
Maybe I'm thinking too far, it is just a feeling , but I think LA will be the next Pantani case. This doesn't mean it is necessary to have the same finish of course. Despite all the discussion about drugs, he always knew how to aproach the TdF preparations, training, minds games with others etc. It seems to me he didn't followed the same path this time not even about his weight. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong but I still have this feeling. Serious.

There was a newspaper article about Armstrong last year. I think it was in one of the New York tabloids. It painted a pretty pathetic picture of him as an aging fame obsessed starfukker.
 
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BroDeal said:
There was a newspaper article about Armstrong last year. I think it was in one of the New York tabloids. It painted a pretty pathetic picture of him as an aging fame obsessed starfukker.

Honestly, in the US, that is something a lot of people aspire to.
 
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BroDeal said:
There was a newspaper article about Armstrong last year. I think it was in one of the New York tabloids. It painted a pretty pathetic picture of him as an aging fame obsessed starfukker.

LOL!:)and LA suit the tabloid I guess!:rolleyes:
 
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This is sad news, since we all expected a great performance from Lance in the Giro and the Tour and now his traiining will be compromised.

But given the recent volume of Lance-related journalism on his every sneeze, anyone has Ted Turner's phone # ? I have a business proposal for him... :D

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fbergo said:
This is sad news, since we all expected a great performance from Lance in the Giro and the Tour and now his traiining will be compromised.


did we? I expected him to get his **** spanked. As for his 'training', I'm sure he'll keep that up.
 
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did we? I expected him to get his **** spanked. As for his 'training', I'm sure he'll keep that up.

Well, now if he gets his spanking, he (and everyone else) will be able to blame it on the wound. I'm sure you guys who expect him to get spanked would rather have him beaten up in his full uncompromised form :rolleyes:
 
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fbergo said:
This is sad news, since we all expected a great performance from Lance in the Giro and the Tour and now his traiining will be compromised.

But given the recent volume of Lance-related journalism on his every sneeze, anyone has Ted Turner's phone # ? I have a business proposal for him... :D

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LOL, I'm sure it's in the pipelines...
 
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Of course not racing will set his fitness back, but as most cyclists do with a collarbone injury he will still be able to train on the stationary bike, I'm sure he'll be back and is still a chance for the Giro ( think that's around 8 weeks away).
 
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BroDeal said:
Someone like dimspace probably complained that his idol was being denigrated. I did not see anything in that thread that was too bad. It obviously was a schadenfruede thread, so anyone reading it got what they expected.

We need to go with the "(D)" and "(non-D)" tagging or just stop mentioning Armstrong at all.

i have no complaints at all what you think of armstrong.. we all have our own opinion, your may be different to mine...

im not sure why im bothering to reply to this subject AGAIN.. we are all cycling fans.. why not have an is armstrong a doper yes or no thread and just keep it in there if you are that desperate to talk about it.. i think the problem round here at the moment is, every thread is derailed into a "Is ____insert name here____ on drugs or not" thread... i merely made a point in that thread to that effect... admin closed it.. not me, nor anyone who agreed with my opinion...

as i stated in that post... for cycling to survive.. it needs to things.
a) the riders to be clean
b) the fans to beleive they are clean or how will the public every trust us..

if the so called "true" cycling fans can not have a conversation without bringing it back to doping again and again and again, then either they are not true fans who do not care for the future of the sport, but self obsessed opinionated individuals who care for nothing. Maybe i have my own opinions about lance, maybe i do have some misgivings, i also think hes the best rider to have ever ridden the tour (because however much i respect zabel, or sean kelly, or fignon, or merkx or whoever, theyve all got there skeletons..).. will it help this forum, or cycling to express my doubts every two minutes.. certainly not.. does it make my opinion any less valid, certainly not..

as for the tyler hamilton derailment.. when that is proven, im sure there will be the opportunity to offer my comments and thoughts on that in the relevant thread.. ;) personally for the record, i dont beleive rock racing should be taking part in any proffessional races.. there is rehabilitation, and forming a security company that employs almost 100% ex cons.. would you let them guard your silver?

apologies for the derailment.. ;)
 
dimspace said:
if the so called "true" cycling fans can not have a conversation without bringing it back to doping again and again and again, then either they are not true fans

This is a bunch of crap. The reason doping comes up so much is because none of cyclings results can be trusted. Most of the people who are most upset about doping are the long time fans who have seen their sport turn into a rolling version of professional wrestling.

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i dont beleive rock racing should be taking part in any proffessional races.. there is rehabilitation, and forming a security company that employs almost 100% ex cons.. would you let them guard your silver?

Sevilla, Botero, and Mancebo put together have failed less dope tests than Armstrong has. What makes them ex-cons? They never had six of their urine samples turn up positive for EPO. If anyone should not be riding professionally, it is Armstrong.
 
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BroDeal said:
This is a bunch of crap. The reason doping comes up so much is because none of cyclings results can be trusted. Most of the people who are most upset about doping are the long time fans who have seen their sport turn into a rolling version of professional wrestling.



Sevilla, Botero, and Mancebo put together have failed less dope tests than Armstrong has. What makes them ex-cons? They never had six of their urine samples turn up positive for EPO. If anyone should not be riding professionally, it is Armstrong.

boredeal-why do you repeat yourself so much? it may be hard for you to swallow, but, you are not a pro cycling insider. you are not a source of valid or even interesting info shedding light on the feeble masses. you are a frustrated insecure angry guy producing, at best, laughs and pity. give it a rest.
 
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BroDeal said:
This is a bunch of crap. The reason doping comes up so much is because none of cyclings results can be trusted. Most of the people who are most upset about doping are the long time fans who have seen their sport turn into a rolling version of professional wrestling.

well thank you for borrowing my wrestling analogy..

my point is.. the real cycling fans are the ones who do there best to beleive that things are improving, who support what the uci are trying (albeit fairly abysmally to do) and have optimism for the future..

the others are the ones who just want to regurgitate everything and see cycling crash and burn so they can sit back and talk about the good old days of the 60's, 70's and 80's when everyone was clean as a whistle..

or i could just turn round and say Eddy Merckx, cheat, liar and a fraud.. his 5 tours, his 5 giros, and 28 classic wins are worthless.. he should be removed from the record books..

for the record.. ive been there, seen it, as much a fan as anyone.. watched my first tour in 1983, so it hurts me as much as anyone to see what has happened over the last 20 years... so dont give me the long time fans cr@p... although i did get banned from racing for having cannabis in my system but it was the late eighties.. ;)

oh blimey.. are we going to need a dim dopes thread now.. :/
 
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boredeal-why do you repeat yourself so much? it may be hard for you to swallow, but, you are not a pro cycling insider. you are not a source of valid or even interesting info shedding light on the feeble masses. you are a frustrated insecure angry guy producing, at best, laughs and pity. give it a rest.

Do they have mirrors in your country? Like I always say, "spot it, got it."
 
dimspace said:
my point is.. the real cycling fans are the ones who do there best to beleive that things are improving, who support what the uci are trying (albeit fairly abysmally to do) and have optimism for the future..

Why should anyone believe that? Just months ago the UCI refused to test samples for CERA. And we are supposed to believe that things will magicly get better even though the UCI is doing its best to keep anyone from being caught?

That power of positive thinking crap went out in the 80s.
 
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yeh.. im a seventies child still stuck in the eighties.. ;)

i did say they uci where doing a pretty hamfisted job...

im still chuckling as ive been reading the good old cycling doping cases list on wikki.. sean kelly failing one for using his mechanic urine, but his mechanic had been doping to keep him awake at night.. :D genius :D

anyway. .off topic.. :/
 
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Well Lance's TDF success wont be impeded. Lance will not want to loose this Tour and he will do what it takes to MAKE SURE he has atleast some more success like before. :)
 
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i think the injury almost guarantees that.. contador giro, armstrong tour... i dont think bruyneel has enough faith in levi.. god knows why not.. :(

although i lance is spotted holidaying on any beaches a week before the giro you know whats gonna happen.. ;)
 

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