Teams & Riders Everybody needs a little bit of Roglstomp in their lives

[acm]

Yesterday we saw something rare. Roglič was clearly pissed off as he crossed the finish line. I probably would have been too if I’d worked into a headwind on the final climb for absolutely nothing.

After seeing that, I hope Rogla continues for another year in a different team. RBH clearly has no clue how they’re supposed to operate as a team and manage all their riders.

What? He was clearly joking with his teammate. That's typical Roglič.

 

[AmRacer]

Two stages now on where Rogla and Pogi where at the front and the rest was severely suffering at the back. Some early stage of greatness right there.

Pogi finished at the front while Rogla finished further back.

 

[Berniece]

I probably would have been too if I’d worked into a headwind on the final climb for absolutely nothing.

Happens literally everyday to 20 teams… I don’t think riders are pissed off when they worked for their leader and he isn’t able to deliver. Disappointed maybe, but angry?

 

[CyclistAbi]

Pogi finished at the front while Rogla finished further back.

Like two sides of the same coin.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Good maintenance pull today, to keep the system going, shifting some more time to not represent a GC threat, everything ready for tomorrow.

 

[AlpRaid]

Good maintenance pull today, to keep the system going, shifting some more time to not represent a GC threat, everything ready for tomorrow.

interesting take.

word is bora is tired of his bs and unwillingness to work for a teammate.

getting pretty tired of the guy ever since blaming someone else for his own crash out at the Vuelta.

retire.

 

[acm]

interesting take.

word is bora is tired of his bs and unwillingness to work for a teammate.

getting pretty tired of the guy ever since blaming someone else for his own crash out at the Vuelta.

retire.

 

[CyclistAbi]

@AlpRaid

I heard Rogla pissed off a lot of commentators this week. Two things need to be said here, an elderly ready for retirement likely couldn't do that and second thing to say here is good.

 

[canina82]

interesting take.

word is bora is tired of his bs and unwillingness to work for a teammate.

getting pretty tired of the guy ever since blaming someone else for his own crash out at the Vuelta.

retire.

He is a 5x GT winner. There are other riders in his team who have a big mouth and demand a team around him and then is climbing la Redoute slower than 10 riders.

 

[CyclistAbi]

@canina82

I don't really have much complains in regards to the team on this race. Especially if they can crown it with a win, presumably tomorrow. They grew as a team on this race, and there are still reserves left.

As for other people and what they are saying, do you reckon anybody will apologise? Usually they don't.

 

[SHAD0W93]

He is a 5x GT winner. There are other riders in his team who have a big mouth and demand a team around him and then is climbing la Redoute slower than 10 riders.

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/v7b0P6bCW4w?si=BvLxz12a1P5zSy4N

 

[Gratemans]

What? He was clearly joking with his teammate. That's typical Roglič.

Was he though? I'm not sure. I mean, he's a hard man to read but in interviews he's often joking and I can read that. But I've never seen him doing something like this on the bike. And it went on for quite a bit.
I don't know. I hope he was just kidding around but I'm not 100% sure.
Did he say anything about it afterwards?

 

[Berniece]

He is a 5x GT winner. There are other riders in his team who have a big mouth and demand a team around him and then is climbing la Redoute slower than 10 riders.

But they work properly for their teammate if their own chances are gone.

 

[Rackham]

I'm not sure when late career Vincenzo Nibali finished way down in a random one week stage race, the media and online chatter was filled with people calling him a disgrace.

I think haters are gonna hate tbh.

 

[tobydawq]

Yesterday we saw something rare. Roglič was clearly pissed off as he crossed the finish line. I probably would have been too if I’d worked into a headwind on the final climb for absolutely nothing.

After seeing that, I hope Rogla continues for another year in a different team. RBH clearly has no clue how they’re supposed to operate as a team and manage all their riders.

Daniel Friebe told on the Cycling Podcast that Roglic had approached him for a chat during Itzulia (I think before the final stage) and he had been really dissatisfied with the team's tactics during the race. Friebe wouldn't divulge too much of what he had said and "certainly wouldn't quote him", so it sounded like he had used some rather colorful language.

 

[Rackham]

If that's true then the team has problems behind the scenes. And before someone gets all sarcastic and says "yeah, Rogla's the problem" I think the fact the head of performance Dan Lorang left a month ago was sort of interesting since it wasn't a one off departure, i.e. the entirety of what was the old Bora Hansgrohe has been gutted over the past 24 months.

 

[Red Rick]

Daniel Friebe told on the Cycling Podcast that Roglic had approached him for a chat during Itzulia (I think before the final stage) and he had been really dissatisfied with the team's tactics during the race. Friebe wouldn't divulge too much of what he had said and "certainly wouldn't quote him", so it sounded like he had used some rather colorful language.

I'd be shocked.

I thought Roglic' English was too broken to know any colorful language

 

[Berniece]

If that's true then the team has problems behind the scenes. And before someone gets all sarcastic and says "yeah, Rogla's the problem" I think the fact the head of performance Dan Lorang left a month ago was sort of interesting since it wasn't a one off departure, i.e. the entirety of what was the old Bora Hansgrohe has been gutted over the past 24 months.

I think Dan Lorang had nothing to do with the rest. Lorang was head of all Red bull performance not just cycling, he went on to other endeavours. The others that were let go didn’t perform, look at this spring campaign compared to last years.

 

[GdL]

Primoz is everything but a team player and he has shown that clearly.

Look at the 2023 Vuelta: he was obviously not happy to let Sepp Kuss take the win. Instead of protecting the jersey, he actively attacked his own teammate.

We saw it again at the World Championships. He didn't show any real support for Pogacar, which is a huge contrast to how other riders sacrifice for their leaders. Even now, as he’s clearly on the decline, he still doesn't want to work for anyone else.

I’m not blaming him at that level, you need a certain ego to win. I’m just stating the facts. BORA obviously made a mistake in extending the contract. They paid for a leader who expects the team to be at his service, but he isn't providing the results to justify that anymore, and he won't pivot to helping the younger guys.