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Armstrong resurrects journo troll list ! Papers black banned - 1999 all over again

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TRDean said:
I swear...Armstrong can do nothing to please you so just shut the heck up already!! So he isn't talking to the media. Big freakin deal. The Giro didn't pay him to talk to the media...they paid him to come and race. If I was being treated like him (regarding the Milan stage) I wouldn't talk to the press either. You guys act like spoiled brats...he owes you nothing so shut up.

I got your back on this one TRDean! Sometimes i wonder if this forum is for cyclists or just *****y little girls hyper-chattersmacking into their cell phones.
 
Sorry guys but I think you will find very few backers of Lance on this site. Why? because outside of the US, most cycling fans do not have much regard for Lance and that is reflected by most of the people on this site. Thats just the way it is, Lance popular with US newish cycling fans, not so popular with more longterm, hardcore, non-US fans. There are exceptions on both sides but this is the general pattern I notice anyway.

The problem is, there are a few people on here who seem consumed with their hatred for Lance and turn everything into a hate Lance thread. There is already too many threads on Lance, the guy who started this one seems to specialise in starting new anti-Lance thread. Dimspace done the best thing ever by starting a anti-Lance thread for people to vent their spleen. I would like to see all new anti-Lance post directed to that thread.

I am not a fan of Lance, was once a long time ago but have explained my reasons for changing my mind elsewhere. I thought I was very anti-Lance until I started reading some posts on here, then I realised I was actually mild.
 
I cannot speak for all, but I am not "anti--Lance." I don't even know what that means.

I'd love to have a beer with the guy and shoot the ****.

Thing is he would prolly beat me up within ten minutes.

"Seriously, Lance, who do you think you're kidding when claiming to beat a peloton of doped riders while clean? I mean, c'mon!"

"Why I oughtta...you're not worth the chair you're sitting on!" etc. etc. and so on and so forth....
 
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Truthfully this forum section should be renamed to the "I hate Lance" Section. Every thread turns into how Armstrong sucks at climbing this stage or he lost time in the ITT and he doesn't have it like he used to.

Whatever....I like watching Lance race and following in how he is doing. I am not a new cyclist i have been riding and racing since I was sixteen after watching the 1989 Tour de France stage where Lemond won the first ITT. It was awesome. I so badly want one of those old clip on bars.

I do think he took drugs before 1999 and probably did blood doping afterwards. Does is change my opinion not really. I am disappointed about the press boycott, but hey I am not going to judge him because I personally am not the burning bush and there are enough people here who have condemmed him.
 
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jaylew said:
Same here. People are so over the top here that I often find myself wanting to defend him and I've never liked the guy.
In my few days on this forum I have taken heat from both camps. Should I feel honoured of that? :p
 
I say enjoy the moment.
So he's fallen out with the Italian press, just like the French.
Who's surprised?
His loss, not mine.
The only people who should be upset are the fanboys, who will now have nothing to.....er....read, while on their bathroom breaks.
 
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Mellow Velo said:
I say enjoy the moment.
So he's fallen out with the Italian press, just like the French.
Who's surprised?
His loss, not mine.
The only people who should be upset are the fanboys, who will now have nothing to.....er....read, while on their bathroom breaks.
Yesterday morning Paolo Bettini tried to approach him. But Lance, maybe seeing his press badge, snubbed him. Paolo was actually surprised, and saddened, by Lance's behaviour.
 
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davidg said:
#2 - by refusing to talk to the media, he ups the ante. If you want to know what he is thinking, you have to go to his website or Twitter,

#3 - by publishing his own views, he can get his message out verbatim, without being taken out of context or misquoted.

#4 Livestrong continues to get coverage which is part of what he wanted to do, notwithstanding his desire to race again.

PS I have heard that there is a race on in Italy at the moment.:)

If he really wanted to get as much coverage for his livestrong organisation as possible, which was, after all, the reason he gave for returning to the peleton, being interviewed by as many different media outlets as possible would be the best, no, the only way to go. Why do you think actors/singers/authors/polititians/entrepreneurs spend so much time trawling around every available media outlet to plug their latest offering?

The only people who will read his thoughts on twitter are people who are obsessed by Lance Armstrong. Either he's missed a trick, or the comeback for Livestrong Foundation was actually an I want to win the TdF again, I'll say it's for charidee so I don't seem such a selfish, self-absorbed egotist comeback.

He might not have even realised it himself.
 
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nathanbloke said:
The only people who will read his thoughts on twitter are people who are obsessed by Lance Armstrong.
Uh oh, I have never been called like that before.

I guess I am obsessed by Chris Horner, Tom Danielson, Ted King, Allan Davis, Cadel Evans, Taylor Phinney, Robbie McEwen, Charlie Wegelius, Levi Leipheimer, Michael Rogers, Ivan Basso, George Hincapie, Carlos Sastre as well, without forgetting Floyd Landis. Or Johan Bruyneel, "Team Slipstream" (= Jonathan Vaughters), Axel Merckx.

Well, I take comfort in the fact that Davidg (?) is even more obsessed than me. :p
 
Leopejo said:
Uh oh, I have never been called like that before.

I guess I am obsessed by Chris Horner, Tom Danielson, Ted King, Allan Davis, Cadel Evans, Taylor Phinney, Robbie McEwen, Charlie Wegelius, Levi Leipheimer, Michael Rogers, Ivan Basso, George Hincapie, Carlos Sastre as well, without forgetting Floyd Landis. Or Johan Bruyneel, "Team Slipstream" (= Jonathan Vaughters), Axel Merckx.

Well, I take comfort in the fact that Davidg (?) is even more obsessed than me. :p

The bloke's a little confused. He probably has a problem understanding the phrase "straight from the horse's mouth" and how it applies to twitter.
 
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According to Equipe, a large section of the Italian/anglophone press have now boycotted Armstrong.

Perhaps they've realised there's a race going on, not a midlife crisis on wheels - nathanbloke is right on the money.

To say that Armstrong was paid 2 million euros to turn up and race is disingenuous at best. Like the TDU, the organisers paid the money for Armstrong's celebrity clout, for the expectation that he would press the flesh, talk about Livestrong, hold press conferences and meet earthquake victims. No other rider is being paid that amount of money to turn up and race - an appearance fee usually has strings attached.

The sad thing is that Livestrong becomes the big loser - there will be journalists who came to get their big story about Armstrong and Livestrong who may now not be quite so sympathetic.
 
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Armstrong, especially since retirement from and re-entry to cycling, is a particularly polarizing figure. The cycling community is left with a choice between "a good guy good for cycling" and "a self serving promoter" or maybe it's both.

But I still think his public persona is that of ***. The Bettini snub is such poor form.
 
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so todays video segment on livestrong...

last 3 minutes of the video dedicated to promoting a young lad with one leg who is doing a sponsored bike ride in the uk, a young lad who was nomitated for a mention and stage dedication by twitterers.... .say what you like about livestrong and his reasons for doing it, the twittering etc his non talking to the press...

but that young lad, and the organisation http://www.cyclistsfc.org.uk/ have just got two minutes of publicity that money simply couldnt buy..

i know some will say he did it to massage his own ego etc etc, but isnt that tiny charity, and that young lad getting worldwide pubilcity, worth a bit of ego scratching..?
 
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so todays video segment on livestrong...

last 3 minutes of the video dedicated to promoting a young lad with one leg who is doing a sponsored bike ride in the uk, a young lad who was nomitated for a mention and stage dedication by twitterers.... .say what you like about livestrong and his reasons for doing it, the twittering etc his non talking to the press...

but that young lad, and the organisation http://www.cyclistsfc.org.uk/ have just got two minutes of publicity that money simply couldnt buy..

i know some will say he did it to massage his own ego etc etc, but isnt that tiny charity, and that young lad getting worldwide pubilcity, worth a bit of ego scratching..?

Even a stopped clock is right twice per day.
 
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Ive got to say but Cycling News really is annoying me with the whole LA issue.
He wasnt even involved in todays stage yet on the photo's of todays stage (stage 20) theres a pic of LA.
At the minute im in Iraq so i have to read the live report, yet they have to mention LA constatly. He's in 12th position, yet how often do they mention the guys better than him on GC.
I think Cycling News should just tone it down a bit.
 
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Thoughtforfood said:
Even a stopped clock is right twice per day.

no pleasing some people is there....

(thats just what jesus said..)

Eva Maria said:
Tiny is the correct word.

kinda my point.. tiny little english charity, tiny little english lad who lost a leg to cancer doing a sponsored ride to his school.. worldwide publicity as a result of a couple of minutes video..

like i say.. no pleasing some people.. damned if you do, damned if you dont.. :D
 
Alpe d'Huez said:
I don't like the guy, but it isn't his duty to talk to the press. A lot of guys don't talk to them. Who cares? Non-story. Get over it.

Have to disagree with you on this one Alpe. When you're a celebrity taking "the heat" from the press goes with the territory. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the fire.

In any case, the Italian press didn't just accuse Lance. But he's the only one with a vendeta mentality. And I think he takes himself way too seriously and doesn't have a generous attitude. He should be more grateful to the cycling comunity, to the fans, who want to hear his commentary. I don't necessarily, but he was paid a huge sum to participate at the Giro, which is more than just the race iteslf. And talking to the press is part of the deal. Like he forgets he's, in the end, just a bike racer and not Jesus Christ.

And as a consequence, the man is too touchy ad needs to get over himself.
 
ukpaul said:
Ive got to say but Cycling News really is annoying me with the whole LA issue... I think Cycling News should just tone it down a bit.

Be happy you're not watching the race on Universal, or reading local papers over here. You'd think he has a 20 minute lead on GC and was contesting every stage.

rhubroma said:
Have to disagree with you on this one Alpe. When you're a celebrity taking "the heat" from the press goes with the territory.

Let me clarify - I'd be happy if the Italian, American, French, world press didn't report on the guy and instead covering the guys who are actually contesting and winning the race. Let them cover him the same amount as other riders finishing about 15-20th and finishing a few minutes back or so. How much press do they get? This isn't a cranky Laurent Fignon battling the 1989 Tour and pushing reporters who want to know if he thinks he can win, and how. Lance to me is a non-story, and until he's really doing something significant on the road, I don't care. Why people need to hear every last syllable that the man utters - most of which is self-serving propoganda anyway - is beyond me. And if he doesn't want to talk, I say fine. I don't want to listen.
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
Be happy you're not watching the race on Universal, or reading local papers over here. You'd think he has a 20 minute lead on GC and was contesting every stage.



Let me clarify - I'd be happy if the Italian, American, French, world press didn't report on the guy and instead covering the guys who are actually contesting and winning the race. Let them cover him the same amount as other riders finishing about 15-20th and finishing a few minutes back or so. How much press do they get? This isn't a cranky Laurent Fignon battling the 1989 Tour and pushing reporters who want to know if he thinks he can win, and how. Lance to me is a non-story, and until he's really doing something significant on the road, I don't care. Why people need to hear every last syllable that the man utters - most of which is self-serving propoganda anyway - is beyond me. And if he doesn't want to talk, I say fine. I don't want to listen.

+1

Nothing worth writing about LA this year. Who on earth is Editing this stuff? Are they mental? Or just bereft of any editorial judgement?