Armstrong will never be caught for EPO or blood boosting and here's why!!

[Ninety5rpm]

also, why would he come back and risk any chance of a positive if he had gotten away with it for 7 TdF's. he was home free. a positive test now would ruin everything.

That's a good question. I suspect the answer lies in the fact that he and his medical experts know exactly what tests are used to detect PEDs, and he knows what he uses. I'm guessing the stuff on the latter list is not on the former list, and so the risk of getting caught is negligible. For example, it might be as simple as only using autologous blood doping. But it probably involves complex designer drugs. In any case, he probably knows, or at least feels, that the risk of getting caught is very low.

 

[Kennf1]

I am glad some attention is finally being drawn to these conspiracies. Consider the following:

FACT: there are 5 letters in the word "Lance", and 9 letters in Armstrong. If we take the average, the number is 7. Exactly the number of times he has won the Tour. Coincidence?

FACT: Armstrong consulted with Dr. Michelle Ferrari. Who was the most famous driver of Ferraris? Michael Schumacher. Substitute a "k" for the "ch" and you have Schumaker, which rhymes with "shoe maker." Who is the largest shoe maker? That's right. Nike.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

but the facts are that he has NEVER tested positive...

Oh God, not this again.

I like Kennf1's answers. Think you're on to something there.

 

[Kittel]

More conspiracy theories...

FACT: LA moved to and trained in Aspen, which is short for Always Scrutinizing Performance Enhancing Novelties

FACT: LA has 4 kids named Luke David, Isabelle Rose, Grace Elizabeth and Max. If you take the alphabetical-order-numbers corresponding to the first letters of their names and dial this number (1249187513) in Italy you'll get an automatic telephone service with Michele Ferrari's voice saying when and where the next meeting will be

 

[Ninety5rpm]

I am glad some attention is finally being drawn to these conspiracies. Consider the following:

FACT: there are 5 letters in the word "Lance", and 9 letters in Armstrong. If we take the average, the number is 7. Exactly the number of times he has won the Tour. Coincidence?

FACT: Armstrong consulted with Dr. Michelle Ferrari. Who was the most famous driver of Ferraris? Michael Schumacher. Substitute a "k" for the "ch" and you have Schumaker, which rhymes with "shoe maker." Who is the largest shoe maker? That's right. Nike.

Hilarious! Good job!

 

[FFWally]

please....
the only habit that LA could have picked up from GWB is snoring COke....& lying...and deceiving... & being stubborn.... OMG I think I'm starting to see a pattern here!!!

The only thing I see here in common is the DS you whack jobs have.

Bush Derangement Syndrome

Armstrong Derangement Syndrome

Palin Derangement Syndrome

Hate Hate Hate... get over yourselves and go ride your bike!

 

[Anonymous]

I hear he's been chewing sun dried human pineal gland.

 

[Kittel]

Lance's secret

FACT: If you take the order of his kids together with the first letters of their names you get 1LD 2IR 3GE 4M which of course stands for:
I, Lance, doped too, infusing roughly 3 gallons every 4 months.

Sounds kind of risky to me, but that's probably why no-one else has won 7 TdF's in a row...

 

[Anonymous]

The only thing I see here in common is the DS you whack jobs have.

Bush Derangement Syndrome

Armstrong Derangement Syndrome

Palin Derangement Syndrome

Hate Hate Hate... get over yourselves and go ride your bike!

Palin isn't deranged, she's just stupid.

 

[patswana]

sometimes, say if someone's been tested non-stop for 10 years, you just kind of have to believe what every single piece of evidence tells you. right?

Okay, got it. So then Marion Jones never doped. Nor Bjarne Riis. Nor Ivan Basso. Nor Jan Ullrich (except for an nightclub eccy). Nor Marco Pantani (just a high haematocrit). Nor Erik Zabel. etc. etc.

 

[davidg]

FACT: LA has 4 kids named Luke David, Isabelle Rose, Grace Elizabeth and Max. If you take the alphabetical-order-numbers corresponding to the first letters of their names and dial this number (1249187513) in Italy you'll get an automatic telephone service with Michele Ferrari's voice saying when and where the next meeting will be

Don't you have to play it backwards?

 

[Ninety5rpm]

sometimes, say if someone's been tested non-stop for 10 years, you just kind of have to believe what every single piece of evidence tells you. right?

Do not confuse a lack of positive doping test result, even over 10 years, with being clean!

The doping tests only check for specific substances at particular levels and specific parameters. The more money you have, the easier it is to avoid detection!

 

[nobody]

Certainly anything is possible. But Lance was knocking on death's door. I don't think he enjoyed the experience. Lance is not dumb. He knows there is an excellent chance that the short term/long term effects of "changing the bodies chemistry" can lead to a "disorder" in the physiology, which in turn can lead to an early death. He's not going to do it. And he hasn't done it. He doesn't want to go through that again.

Not sure.

I have a lot of friends who are alpinists, who are doing a lot of funny sports but extremely dangerous like paragliding, base-jump, speed flying and xtrem skiing...
Most of them have seen the death very closely, all (or almost all) of them have seen one of their friends dying... but few of them stop!

Have you heard Ben Johnson saying he prefered die at 40 with fame ans money? Have you read the poll done with olympic athletes about doping and death? Most of them were accepting the fatality of an earlier death if doping would bring them an olympic medal.

 

[auscyclefan94]

I think the conspiracy story about bush and armstrong is great and i wish it was real. Unfortunately it's not realistic. I hope you were being sarcastic with that story!

 

[RightWingNutJob]

Why don't they test his 2004/2005 samples for Cera Epo? Perhaps they will find something. But I doubt it.

My thoughts are that Armstrong isn't on EPO. He has some new drug not widely known other than by the USA Elite/Army, etc. They're always testing new things to make their soldiers stronger/faster.

I've heard and read of tests they recently carried out on rats by gene therapy that made them 1/3 stronger/faster, etc. But the downside was they ate 1/3 more and became more aggressive. I don't know much about Armstrongs eating styles, but the aggressive side fits in okay.

Before you think I'm crazy think of the following facts.
He is good friends with George Bush and Co. He was as good as dead with cancer. What did he have to lose by using himself as a guinea pig to test some product or allow changes to be made to his genes. It would explain his superhuman efforts that were so unlike him prior to cancer. Remember Indurain blasting past him in the timetrial!! Weight loss won't have sped him up there!!. Armstrong winning has benefited the USA immensely. Why wouldn't the USA allow him (the best USA cyclist at the time) to make them look good.

Genetic Engineering or Manipulation is certainly something we will see in the future, but I don't think we are there yet.

 

[BigBoat]

Not sure.

I have a lot of friends who are alpinists, who are doing a lot of funny sports but extremely dangerous like paragliding, base-jump, speed flying and xtrem skiing...
Most of them have seen the death very closely, all (or almost all) of them have seen one of their friends dying... but few of them stop!

Have you heard Ben Johnson saying he prefered die at 40 with fame ans money? Have you read the poll done with olympic athletes about doping and death? Most of them were accepting the fatality of an earlier death if doping would bring them an olympic medal.

No real health issues at all with autologous blood doping provided the blood was stored properly, thawed properly, transfused properly with a large enough needle... YOU MUST have a well trained physician in charge to do this properly of course. If the blood grows anything or is kept warm for too long you could end up with a transfusion reaction. But if done properly, no issues at all.

Low dose HGH is not bad for you either. 02 carriers and other drugs can be fairly upsetting to the system (oxyglobin, etc) but no real long term health consequences at all...

 

[Anonymous]

No real health issues at all with autologous blood doping provided the blood was stored properly, thawed properly, transfused properly with a large enough needle... YOU MUST have a well trained physician in charge to do this properly of course. If the blood grows anything or is kept warm for too long you could end up with a transfusion reaction. But if done properly, no issues at all.

Low dose HGH is not bad for you either. 02 carriers and other drugs can be fairly upsetting to the system (oxyglobin, etc) but no real long term health consequences at all...

Lance's perfect health is proof of that right Boat?

 

[Escarabajo]

Do not confuse a lack of positive doping test result, even over 10 years, with being clean!

The doping tests only check for specific substances at particular levels and specific parameters. The more money you have, the easier it is to avoid detection!

Why do I think that you raced professionally?

 

[Escarabajo]

sometimes, say if someone's been tested non-stop for 10 years, you just kind of have to believe what every single piece of evidence tells you. right?

Okay, got it. So then Marion Jones never doped. Nor Bjarne Riis. Nor Ivan Basso. Nor Jan Ullrich (except for an nightclub eccy). Nor Marco Pantani (just a high haematocrit). Nor Erik Zabel. etc. etc.

You forgot almost all of the Operacion Puerto riders. They never tested positive anyway.

 

[subzro]

sometimes, say if someone's been tested non-stop for 10 years, you just kind of have to believe what every single piece of evidence tells you. right?

Haha ... you're brave posting that on here!

No argument from me though.

 

[sherer]

I think this thread and the others like it all boil down to those that want to believe the sport is still clean and those that have seen it all before and think most of the riders are doped

 

[BigBoat]

Oh I know who ili lil is.

I think this thread and the others like it all boil down to those that want to believe the sport is still clean and those that have seen it all before and think most of the riders are doped

I think it boils down to the average reader that believes the sport is full of dope, and people in the sport who want you to believe their clean.

 

[Irish2009]

Strange thing is although the OP's idea seems very out there, I can't help thinking of BALCO and thier designer steroids that were undetectable at the time.

 

[Bagster]

Why don't they test his 2004/2005 samples for Cera Epo? Perhaps they will find something. But I doubt it.

My thoughts are that Armstrong isn't on EPO. He has some new drug not widely known other than by the USA Elite/Army, etc. They're always testing new things to make their soldiers stronger/faster.

I've heard and read of tests they recently carried out on rats by gene therapy that made them 1/3 stronger/faster, etc. But the downside was they ate 1/3 more and became more aggressive. I don't know much about Armstrongs eating styles, but the aggressive side fits in okay.

Before you think I'm crazy think of the following facts.
He is good friends with George Bush and Co. He was as good as dead with cancer. What did he have to lose by using himself as a guinea pig to test some product or allow changes to be made to his genes. It would explain his superhuman efforts that were so unlike him prior to cancer. Remember Indurain blasting past him in the timetrial!! Weight loss won't have sped him up there!!. Armstrong winning has benefited the USA immensely. Why wouldn't the USA allow him (the best USA cyclist at the time) to make them look good.

Mate your not crazy, crazy doesn't begin to describe you

 

[runninboy]

I agree that Lance will never be caught but not because of some weird conspiracy theory. I would imagine he has a Therapuetic Use Exemption for some pretty impressive drugs. No one else in the peloton has come close to having his level of cancer. So if you have a decent lawyer, the whole premise of a TUE would seem to allow for you to be able to get treatment to keep the cancer in remission, to do otherwise could cost him his life.Its not like he is asking for steriods for asthma, he was on the verge of death, So the threat of potential liabilty to deny him treatment when others are allowed drugs for non life threatening conditions outweighs the potential backlash if the TUE is ever revealed.
Since the TUE's are confidential no one will ever know...
my theory