Teams & Riders Arnaud De Lie is De Truth Discussion Thread

[Rob5091]

We're off to Canada baby! Yeah!
Open your window to hear the sound of Pogi's knees knocking and teeth chattering. Pogi's said he's scared of the protesters but we all know it's Arnaud (and his "brain" Berckmoes) that is keep him awake at night. He's beat MvdP in a sprint, now it's the Pogster's turn to meet his Waterloo! (pro cycling really is a lot like WWE)

 

[Berniece]

We're off to Canada baby! Yeah!
Open your window to hear the sound of Pogi's knees knocking and teeth chattering. Pogi's said he's scared of the protesters but we all know it's Arnaud (and his "brain" Berckmoes) that is keep him awake at night. He's beat MvdP in a sprint, now it's the Pogster's turn to meet his Waterloo! (pro cycling really is a lot like WWE)

He's in the best shape he has ever been in. Looking forward to Quebec, would be nice to see him get the win

 

[Rob5091]

He was the best of the rest, but the Pogsterwas as predicted no where to be seen.

 

[Rob5091]

Notch up another win for Arnaud - chapeau!
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...th-powerful-win-ahead-of-jeanniere-and-girmay

 

[Hugh Januss]

We're off to Canada baby! Yeah!
Open your window to hear the sound of Pogi's knees knocking and teeth chattering. Pogi's said he's scared of the protesters but we all know it's Arnaud (and his "brain" Berckmoes) that is keep him awake at night. He's beat MvdP in a sprint, now it's the Pogster's turn to meet his Waterloo! (pro cycling really is a lot like WWE)

I watched both of those races, De Lie was there?

 

[yaco]

The difference is that DeLie is riding in a more mature way and using his team as much as possible.

 

[Rob5091]

I watched both of those races, De Lie was there?

Best of the rest in Quebec (behind the break) and the same spot in Montreal as Pogi had in Quebec ...

 

[Rob5091]

The difference is that DeLie is riding in a more mature way and using his team as much as possible.

He does need a lead out man - when Campenaerts was at Lotto, it was a joy to watch the two of them together.

 

[Rob5091]

It was close, but he does it again - chapeau! Still races to come for De Lie
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...-arnaud-de-lie-on-super-8-classic-masterclass

"I was definitely in top form today. The season is still long for me, with Paris-Chauny, the Sparkassen Münsterland Giro, Paris-Tours, and the Tour of Holland. It's already incredibly special that I was able to race two races this week that suit me, and I still have a lot of ambition for the rest of the season".

 

[Rob5091]

De Lie seems to be going down the same route as big Mad Mads Pedersen - no to altitude training camps and plenty of grub -
https://www.wielerflits.nl/nieuws/n...ts-te-veel-eet-arnaud-de-lie-wil-minder-druk/

I'm not saying it's not good to weigh your food, but it's also not the end of the world if you eat a little too much.​

 

[Rob5091]

Oprah's old "voodoo witch doctor" Dr Phil, used to have the catch phrase, "Tell it like it is". Something that De Lie could take up, or some version like, "No bulls*it" would be fitting. Anyhoo, Arnaud sums up pretty succinctly he's non-apperance at MSR,
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...eturn-to-milano-sanremo-i-dont-stand-a-chance

"I have to be realistic: with them on the start line I don’t stand a chance. They ride the Cipressa a minute faster than the rest. Milano–Sanremo is a lost day for me. It’s pointless". “Unless Pogacar and Van der Poel call in sick five days beforehand," he joked. "I think I’m making the right choice".

 

[tobydawq]

The words of a loser. Extremely disappointing to read this.

 

[Samamba]

The words of a loser. Extremely disappointing to read this.

Saying what he thinks is the truth is being a loser? I don't necessarily agree with him not having a chance (for a top 10 or something like that) cause for example what if there's a big headwind on Cipressa (wouldn't surprise me if he does it after all if that's the case), but yes if they go as hard as last year (which is what everyone expects let's be honest) there De Lie being there is indeed pointless. He would not play a role. The Cipressa is way too long for him if they go full from the bottom to the top. Why would he want to ride a race where he thinks he can't play a role in? That's like saying Merlier riding I don't know Bredene over MSR is loser mentality too.

Also be aware that because of these copy paste sites the words you read are a copy of a copy of either a translation of his words in france OR (even worse) his own words in bad Dutch.

 

[Panda Claws]

Yeah that's a bummer to read. De Lie is still young of course, but no longer grass green, and the big results haven't been there yet. A top-10 at MSR wouldn't be meaningless here.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Wise decision by De Lie. There are other, better targets for him. Other riders could do the same.

 

[Rob5091]

It's a bit like expecting him to do Mont Ventoux Challenge. Astana did a similar thing all last year and Vino was a hero ...

 

[Red Rick]

Man would rather milk the cows than race frigging Sanremo along the beautiful Ligurian coast.

 

[Jan the Man]

The words of a loser. Extremely disappointing to read this.

Or the words of a realist who prefers to target races he thinks he can win?

 

[Berniece]

Or the words of a realist who prefers to target races he thinks he can win?

Automatically assuming there is no chance you can win it is a bit silly. 2 years ago Philipsen won…

 

[tobydawq]

Automatically assuming there is no chance you can win it is a bit silly. 2 years ago Philipsen won…

Exactly.

And not many riders should ride any races at all if that's the thinking.

 

[Red Rick]

Or the words of a realist who prefers to target races he thinks he can win?

So in tennis, 126 out of 128 players in a Grand Slam draw should just go home and find the nearest challenger event?

 

[Berniece]

Exactly.

And not many riders should ride any races at all if that's the thinking.

Indeed. Is he going to line up at De Ronde, E3 or Roubaix? Think he even has less chance than at MSR. Best he on rides PT races then

 

[Dazed and Confused]

So in tennis, 126 out of 128 players in a Grand Slam draw should just go home and find the nearest challenger event

De Lie and his team gets no start money, zero exposure. Participating is bordeline a waste of time and effort.

 

[Red Rick]

De Lie and his team gets no start money, zero exposure. Participating is bordeline a waste of time and effort.

Getting dropped at the base of the Cipressa is better exposure than dodging and getting into trouble for headbutts in Belgian 1.1 races foreigners think aren't even real

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Getting dropped at the base of the Cipressa is better exposure than dodging and getting into trouble for headbutts in Belgian 1.1 races foreigners think aren't even real

Nope, the exposure will only project failure from him and his team in MSR. Worthless.