BikeCentric said:LOL and now after stage 6 Pharmstrong is almost a minute behind both Cunego and Bruseghin. "You have to wonder what he's thinking!"
Mellow Velo said:The latest from Bruyneel's blog.
We cannot do anything else other than to wait until the end of the Giro.
Post of the week! "Hogstrong".Assuming the worst and Team Satana, becomes Team Hogstrong.
Condorman said:Satana also has an invite to the Dauphiné Libéré from 7th to 14th June. Another training ride.
I can see Contador do that, if it's in the plan to have AC win the Tour, with support from Lance.dimspace said:i disagree, with lance obviously not going to win the giro, and unlikely to win the tour, if he can win one race in his comeback year, i think it would be dauphine.. and i would hope that levi and contador would support him in return for his support in the giro (which will come) and the tour
dimspace said:i disagree, with lance obviously not going to win the giro, and unlikely to win the tour, if he can win one race in his comeback year, i think it would be dauphine.. and i would hope that levi and contador would support him in return for his support in the giro (which will come) and the tour
I disagree... with the disagreement. Winning a race in his comeback year would be important, but how he fares in the Tour is orders of magnitude more important, even if in a helper role only.dimspace said:i disagree, with lance obviously not going to win the giro, and unlikely to win the tour, if he can win one race in his comeback year, i think it would be dauphine.. and i would hope that levi and contador would support him in return for his support in the giro (which will come) and the tour
Mellow Velo said:Not much news on this topic, since yesterday, other than some UCI "double talk".
From this site:-
The Astana team showed up at the start of stage 7 in Innsbrück, Austria, with a new version of their jerseys. The sponsors names and logos were almost invisible with the exception of KazMunaiGas, Trek and Nike. The logo of the UCI ProTour was still there. The UCI had given the team the green light for the changes since the colours of the jerseys remained the same and no new sponsors were added.
The matter was followed closely at the UCI headquarters in Aigle, Switzerland. ProTour manager Alain Rumpf told Cyclingnews about Astana's wages, which have been unpaid since February. "We are monitoring the situation carefully. We're looking into the regulations to see what we can do about it, but we won't let it (go on) this way. We hope the financial problems of Team Astana will be resolved as soon as possible, but if not, it could lead to a suspension of the team. The UCI could also ask the license commission to take away the team's ProTour license."
A possible suspension is the biggest concern for the team considering the upcoming races. Astana will be able to complete the Giro d'Italia with no issues, but its future beyond the May 31st deadline for resolution of the financial issues is uncertain.
"The UCI will not make any exceptions for Lance Armstrong or anybody else," said Rumpf. UCI president Pat McQuaid is expected to have a meeting in Kazakhstan on Monday with the Kazakh national cycling federation which holds Astana's ProTour license. If no solution is found before the end of this month, the team's participation in the Tour de France could be in jeopardy.
Pick the bones out of that, if you can.
If KazMunaiGas pick up the bill, problem solved for Astana, headache for the axis of evil.
If not, no UCI favours, but they'll try and wrestle that PT license away and no prizes for guess who'll be first up for the spare.
All quiet on the sponsor front, though....
dimspace said:hes thinking.. "what good prep this is to back to full strength for the tour, and what can i do to help levi out and make sure he wins the giro"
talk about mountains and molehills..
are you guys still confusing the out for four year, broken collarbone, riding giro to build up for tour, armsttrong, with seven time tour winner...
i give up.. i just completely and utterly give up...
actually..this is going to be my last thought on the matter in this thread.. there are people round here, and its taken me a while to twig, say stuff just for the sake of a) amusing themselves b) hoping for a reaction c) oh god knows..
firstly.. this was meant to be a discussion of the situation at astana thread,.. not an excuse to build an posh extension of the lance hating thread
secondly.. there are some people that think lances current level of fitness is someway definate evidence in a court of law that he must have been doping his entire career cos how on earth can someone who is 3 minutes down on the GC in the giro, possibly be the same man who won seven tours.. ok.. so avoiding doping lets consider:
the tour is nearly three months later in the season, lance was a ful time pro at the time, whos season revolved around the tour de france, who hand picked races (wether you agree with that or not), you cannot compare that with someone who has been out for four years, has raced two competative races all season and then broken his collarbone..
whatever you think of JB there is currently no evidence that astana are doping.. im not saying they are or they arnt, but there is no evidence to support that, and there is as much likelehood as saxo bank, or lpr etc are doping.
thirdly.. i know its not helped by the italian producers showing lance every two minutes, commentators talking about him every two minutes, as someonone who likes lance riding, and actually likes levi it drives me nuts too, and i love the fact that eurosport are actually siding with the fans on this one, but do we have to talk about him constantly.. its a shame in the middle of what could be one of the most interesting giros in years we are not talking about (previously suspended) bassos form, or (previously suspended) scarponis win yesterday, or if (previously suspended) dave millars garmin can do something today, the amazing performances by brad wiggins, the strong first giro performance from who i think will be a massive star Boasen hagen.. but everything is about lance, lance, bloody lance..
Alpe d'Huez said:
LugHugger said:Is this the same Universal commentator who only appears to be able to identify LA in the peloton? And you're prepared to listen? Shame on you, Alpe!!!!
bianchigirl said:However, the KF will pay up by Monday according to Vino - who recently was OOC tested by the UCI meaning he's back in the testing pool meaning he's back.
More plausible scenario - Astana pay up, Vino retuns, Bruyneel & Armstrong are 'persuaded' to leave and form their own team (question being, with how much haste can McQuaid comjure up a PT license, especially with the UCI elections coming up?). Contador still jumps ship to a Spanish team etc etc etc...
Alpe d'Huez said:Ug. But I see this as possible as well, with one problem: The UCI says they plan on both saying that Vino can't race for a ProTour team for another two years (very few riders have this book thrown at them though it is the rule. Landis, Hamilton, and for some reason Heras who remains entirely blacklisted), and that they plan on finally using the Anti-Doping charter he signed to charge him a full year's salary. I say hooray. It's about time they did that. And let's start with the guy who may be the most egregious doper. But Vino says he's not paying, as no one else has had to pay. Either way, I it's going to be hard for Astana to sign him as is, or holding onto the PT license if they do.