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Astana in disarray...?

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whiteboytrash said:
Levi needed him after his flat. Why leave him alone ?
The only thing I could think of was that Popo is no longer in the inner circle and knows he wont be on the new team getting paid so needs to make a name for himself and the thought of a stage win would have helped that

If he had paid attention to his power meter things might have been so different
 
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Which guys are targeting the Tour and not this Giro? Armstrong at least is here just to train for July but are Menchov and Sastre here for that reason too? Menchov looks very good if he hasn't even reached his peak yet but if he's not at his best right now then I have to ask what kind of stuff his on...
I believe I read somewhere that Menchov is in Italy to win the race, since he thinks that's his best chance of winning a GT this season.
 
kjetilraknerud said:
I believe I read somewhere that Menchov is in Italy to win the race, since he thinks that's his best chance of winning a GT this season.

Yes, at the start of the year the Tour was his plan, but before the Giro started he said he was on, and the Tour would likely be contested by Contador fending off other riders, so he would try for the Giro. So far it looks like a wise choice!
 
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Yes, at the start of the year the Tour was his plan, but before the Giro started he said he was on, and the Tour would likely be contested by Contador fending off other riders, so he would try for the Giro. So far it looks like a wise choice!

handpicking races... good god... thats almost lance like.. :eek:

im chuffed for dennis.. i do like him as a rider, but i cant help feel hes just lacking that little something, personality, hes being a bit of a plodder.. maybe he would be more exciting if he was smaller and italian.. my point is i think i like menchov, but he doesnt excite me.. same i suppose could be said for levi and sastre..

oh god.. maybe i want di luca to win the giro.. :eek
 
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Are you writing articles for Eurosport White Boy Trash? It's official, Astana are in disarray. This quote from their article today:

"Astana are in disarray. Leipheimer, their supposed candidate for the Giro GC, is looking less dynamic than Cadel Evans on a July afternoon, and Armstrong - still recovering from a broken collarbone and carrying the weight of Jan Ullrich off-season - finds himself having to collect water and pace set for a team-mate whose chances have erupted even before the decisive stage to Vesuvius."

More at:
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/26052009/58/giro-d-italia-blazin-saddles-water-carrier.html
 

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rolfrae said:
Are you writing articles for Eurosport White Boy Trash? It's official, Astana are in disarray. This quote from their article today:

"Astana are in disarray. Leipheimer, their supposed candidate for the Giro GC, is looking less dynamic than Cadel Evans on a July afternoon, and Armstrong - still recovering from a broken collarbone and carrying the weight of Jan Ullrich off-season - finds himself having to collect water and pace set for a team-mate whose chances have erupted even before the decisive stage to Vesuvius."

More at:
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/26052009/58/giro-d-italia-blazin-saddles-water-carrier.html

Shhhhhh...... I've been found out ! :)
 

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rolfrae said:
Are you writing articles for Eurosport White Boy Trash? It's official, Astana are in disarray. This quote from their article today:

"Astana are in disarray. Leipheimer, their supposed candidate for the Giro GC, is looking less dynamic than Cadel Evans on a July afternoon, and Armstrong - still recovering from a broken collarbone and carrying the weight of Jan Ullrich off-season - finds himself having to collect water and pace set for a team-mate whose chances have erupted even before the decisive stage to Vesuvius."

More at:
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/26052009/58/giro-d-italia-blazin-saddles-water-carrier.html

What a total abortion. Don't mess with the Kazah mafia boys. Come on Lance get the Livestrong money in there !!! Surely 45c in the dollar can pay for this "promotion" of Livestrong ???
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“The debt issue has not been solved,” the team leader, Johan Bruyneel, said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press. “The situation has not changed for us” since the Giro d’Italia, which ended last week.

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Ive read twice now that there was one of the Astana riders in the Giro that didn't blank out the sponsors on his jersey. Anyone know who that was and why?
 
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ukpaul said:
Ive read twice now that there was one of the Astana riders in the Giro that didn't blank out the sponsors on his jersey. Anyone know who that was and why?

Andrey Zeits, the Kazakh. I guess that's the reason.;)
 
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Andrey Zeits, the Kazakh. I guess that's the reason.;)

they said at the time they thought it would be disrepectful...

any ideas on new sponsors yet.. all we seem to know is its an american company that do a lot of business in khazackstan

now ive been through the list of companies operating out there with a fine toothcomb.. only one i can find big enough, and america is HP (the printer manunfactures, not that rather fantastic english sauce)

now out of the list of american companies operating over there, they are the biggest (i looked on the american chamber of commerce site) http://www.amcham.kz/membership

Hp the biggest and already have links with livestrong...
they have been making livestrong branded laptop bags etc etc since way back in 2005

do i win a prize if im right..
 

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Another fall out from the Astana affair...... false hope.....
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Michael Matts, 34, described as a Walter Mitty character, lied to his family, friends and work colleagues about his disease to impress them, grab the limelight and to bring "glory" to his life, it was said.

He went as far as to allow friends to give him lifts to the hospital for radiotherapy and persuaded his fiancée with whom he now has two children to bring forward their wedding because of his illness.

During the day he even excused himself from the ceremony on several occasions because he said he was tired by the disease.
But all the time there was nothing wrong with him and he was using his sick leave to build up a cycling business.

However his fantasy world came crashing down this week after he was jailed for 12 months for the series of deceptions and frauds.

Matts has been divorced by his 30-year-old wife Emma, who is said to be "devastated" and is refusing to let him see their children.

Her father, John Heighton, 78, said afterwards: "He's a conniving cheating liar and a sick fantasist. He's put my family through hell."

Leicester Crown Court heard that Matts hero worshipped Lance Armstrong, the American cyclist who successfully fought testicular cancer and came back to win a record number of Tour De France races.

He used the world famous cyclist, Lance Armstrong, as a "template" to bolster his lies about having cancer.

Matts, who was perfectly healthy, told a stream of attention seeking lies to grab the limelight, gain sympathy and to impress.

Born in Leicester, he had cycled in his youth, but had not represented Great Britain, or toured Spain and France, as he claimed.

When he joined the Leicestershire Police in 2001, he told colleagues he was a cancer-sufferer in remission and Armstrong was his inspiration, said Matthew Lowe, prosecuting.

He said Matts appeared to have used his hero's well documented genuine suffering as "a template" to copy the symptoms and treatment.

Mr Lowe said he told "elaborate lies" about his illness and treatment to the force's human resources department, claiming to need daily blood tests and regular MRI scans.

He also took time off for depression while working in the serious and dangerous offenders unit at Leicester's Tigers Road Police Station, before his arrest in January 2008.

The court heard he set up a cycle shop told his employee he was an ex-professional cyclist and was in remission from cancer.

Matts, claiming to be a rich businessman, offered to sponsor an 18-strong professional Belgian cycle team with six paid staff. He faked documents to show his wealth and left two Belgian businessmen with £500,000 debts.

Attempts by the firm's bosses to contact him to discuss it were met with excuses about his cancer.

Matts resigned from the police two months after his arrest.
He tricked his wife, family, colleagues and friends who have been left shocked and appalled by his duplicity.

Mr Heighton, of Wigston, Leics, said: "We're glad he went to prison, but it should have been for longer. We've all been devastated.

"You don't doubt people until you have a reason to, but virtually everything he told us was a sham. At his wedding he even fooled my wife, who's a nurse.

"The wedding, to our daughter, had to be brought forward because of his so-called cancer. During the wedding meal he kept leaving, saying he was going to throw up, because of the illness.

"He'd always told us that his father, who we met at the wedding, wasn't his real father, but a friend of his mother's. But that was also a pack of lies.
"He's not only conned us, but he's conned the police and goodness knows how many others. We feel terribly let down. Our daughter wants nothing more to do with him and neither do we.

"They were married for five years and have two small children, now aged one-and-a-half years and three. When he was arrested our daughter arrived home to see the police there and initially feared they were going to break the news he'd died from his illness.

"It's only today, in court, we've discovered the full extent of what he's done."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...ong-fan-faked-cancer-to-marry-girlfriend.html
 
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and that has what to do with astana, false hope..

what...?????

i despair sometimes... this is now getting tiresome..
 
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Another fall out from the Astana affair...... false hope.....
________Leicester Crown Court heard that Matts hero worshipped Lance Armstrong, the American cyclist who successfully fought testicular cancer and came back to win a record number of Tour De France races.

He used the world famous cyclist, Lance Armstrong, as a "template" to bolster his lies about having cancer.

OK I didn't get at first either but I do now. It's simple if you are a Lance fan it will turn you into a liar and cheat just like Lance.

See Lance=Lucifer.

Well that's my best guess.

I have no idea what it has to do with Astana. But what good is any thread if it doesn't mention Lance/Lucifer or doping? LOL

please don't anyone threaten to beat me up that's on a different thread
 
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OK I didn't get at first either but I do now. It's simple if you are a Lance fan it will turn you into a liar and cheat just like Lance.

See Lance=Lucifer.

Well that's my best guess.

I have no idea what it has to do with Astana. But what good is any thread if it doesn't mention Lance/Lucifer or doping? LOL

please don't anyone threaten to beat me up that's on a different thread

lol I didn't get the connection myself

OMG!!!!...but now I do...Perhaps the thread should have been titled, You know you have a problem when.....

The saddest part is this story is true, that someone preyed on people pretending to be ill. I would assume the only illness that this person has is in their head...hope they get help for it.

I am not a LA fan....but geezus...talk about taking it to the extreme..
 
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lol I didn't get the connection myself

OMG!!!!...but now I do...Perhaps the thread should have been titled, You know you have a problem when.....

The saddest part is this story is true, that someone preyed on people pretending to be ill. I would assume the only illness that this person has is in their head...hope they get help for it.

I am not a LA fan....but geezus...talk about taking it to the extreme..

the second saddest part of the story is that wbt sees somethng bad happen and wants to blame belanceybub for it..

its lances fault for having cancer and causing someone else to pretend he had.. if lance hadnt existed the guy wouldnt have been a lying cheating fraud... ooh.. lance and lying cheating fraud in the same sentance.. spooky

the only thing that isnt clear and id like a bit more information on, is what exactly the hogs role in all this was.. i assume he had one, maybe supplied the doctor to oversea the no drug doubt induduced births of the children, maybe communicating over team radio exactly when the fellow should make his move for the toilets..

i think the UCI need to have a good long hard look at this one.. potentially more damning than the 99 tour samples..
 
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I think the UCI would take one look at this and demand a lifetime ban....what is the forum without any thread having a post in it not containing at least one sentence with the words lance,lying,cheating and fraud!??! Look now I had added to the count, damn I should be investigated by the UCI too!! lol :p
 
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I think the UCI would take one look at this and demand a lifetime ban....what is the forum without any thread having a post in it not containing at least one sentence with the words lance,lying,cheating and fraud!??! Look now I had added to the count, damn I should be investigated by the UCI too!! lol :p

we are getting there..

"lance lying cheating fraud doper".. cycling news forum now up to page 10 on google.. :D

reckon we can hit number 1?
 
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The court heard he set up a cycle shop told his employee he was an ex-professional cyclist and was in remission from cancer.

Matts, claiming to be a rich businessman, offered to sponsor an 18-strong professional Belgian cycle team with six paid staff. He faked documents to show his wealth and left two Belgian businessmen with £500,000 debts.

Attempts by the firm's bosses to contact him to discuss it were met with excuses about his cancer.

I heard the bike shop was called "Laid-back Johnny's" and the cycling team had to fade out the sponsors name.

belanceybub-now that's funny!
 
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dimspace said:
we are getting there..

"lance lying cheating fraud doper".. cycling news forum now up to page 10 on google.. :D

reckon we can hit number 1?

Oh for sure, did I mention lance,lying,cheating,fraud, doper??? LMAO!!!:D