Netserk said:JVDB will be forgotten (together with his 4th place)
People will remember that Piti won on Peyragudes.
I can't believe he bossed Nibali here. My respect went into the cellar.
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Netserk said:JVDB will be forgotten (together with his 4th place)
People will remember that Piti won on Peyragudes.
roundabout said:He was MIA when he was needed the most so yes, there is something to remember.
Dazed and Confused said:I can't believe he bossed Nibali here. My respect went into the cellar.
Pentacycle said:Wasn't it obvious it was better for both of them? Nibali wasn't gonna take time on Sky, and Valverde would have zero chance of winning the stage if Nibali stayed there. It was an agreement, not some bossing around.
Parrulo said:well that wasn't what happened . . . but think of it what you want
Parrulo said:understanding opinion from the biggest fan of one of best riders of all time at getting top 10 places in GT's but never winning.
Pentacycle said:Wasn't it obvious it was better for both of them? Nibali wasn't gonna take time on Sky, and Valverde would have zero chance of winning the stage if Nibali stayed there. It was an agreement, not some bossing around.
gregrowlerson said:And he's only got three of those
With Kloden, people may remember is 2010 Tour, when he lost major time even before the high mountains (cracked badly in medium mountain stage) and ended up 14th overall. Late in that edition he got in a breakaway on the stage to Mende. The group was 16 strong, but with some stragglers on it he broke it up into a foursome. Despite working well together the group was caught soon after the start of the climb (except for Vino who almost held on to win), and Klodi ended up 2nd best from the breakaway and about 10th on the stage. Now if he had won that stage it would have been great, but I wouldn't have rated his Tour as better than his '09 one when he placed 6th overall.
As for last year, I thought his 11th placing was pretty good for a 37 year old, but I have no idea whether the result meant much of anything to Andreas himself. Maybe for him it is top 10 or a little worthless.
Pentacycle said:Wasn't it obvious it was better for both of them? Nibali wasn't gonna take time on Sky, and Valverde would have zero chance of winning the stage if Nibali stayed there. It was an agreement, not some bossing around.
RHRH19861986 said:I´d say, important are:
Giro: Top15
Tour: Top20
Vuelta: Top10
RHRH19861986 said:I´d say, important are:
Giro: Top15
Tour: Top20
Vuelta: Top10