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Pity that he is playing Dom to Talansky as that stage Majka won looked perfect for him to have tried for the break
swuzzlebubble said:
Pity that he is playing Dom to Talansky as that stage Majka won looked perfect for him to have tried for the break
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Kudos too to Super-Dom Rory Sutherland taking 4th in the Giro break
Storer again. This time at An Post Rásjaylew said:
Kudos too to Super-Dom Rory Sutherland taking 4th in the Giro break
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Fantastic for Ben. I am unsure he is WT level, but at least a few races at PCT level will help him improve.
swuzzlebubble said:
Fantastic for Ben. I am unsure he is WT level, but at least a few races at PCT level will help him improve.
Ben Dyball is good enough to be racing at PCT level, no star but he's a capable rider who can climb and has lacked the opportunities in Australia to show it. here's hoping he grabs his chance this time around
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Can't wait to see how Morton goes in his first GT. Hopefully Canty shows well too.swuzzlebubble said:
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To be fair, he's been lucky that Lotto let him choose such a high profile schedule year after year for so long.swuzzlebubble said:
Every team would love to Hansen who you can pencil in for three GT's - Makes it easier to plan rider schedules.
Pat Lane discussed possible Australian riders for the WT on the Jamie Finch-Penninger podcast - Honest but brutal assessments.
42166 - Is Hepburn staying at Orica ?
Pat Lane discussed possible Australian riders for the WT on the Jamie Finch-Penninger podcast - Honest but brutal assessments.
42166 - Is Hepburn staying at Orica ?
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Possible to give us a summation of these assessments; sadly the sound card on my laptop has completely had the fritz !
yaco said:
Possible to give us a summation of these assessments; sadly the sound card on my laptop has completely had the fritz !
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It was divided into two parts mature men who are riding at the CT level/ Women young and old and the second part was young Aussie Men - The mature men covered CT riders from the NRS and mainly covered Isowhey Wellness Squad - Lane was brutal in his assessments and discussed in detail how individual riders could fit into a WT squad - The two riders he thought could make a WT team were the two oldest riders being Sean Lake and Scott Sunderland though age is against them - Women riders was all about Lucy Kennedy who will be in the WT peleton in 2018 - Shannon Malseed should make it to WT level in another two or three years - No surprises with the young Aussie riders - Expects Hamilton, Hindley, Storer, Stannard to make it to the WT level - Reading between the lines he seems most excited about Storer who he claims is still over-weight - I actually liken Storer to a young Richie Porte - He has queries on Jenner and Sweeney - Thinks D.Sutherland is coming from a long way back but is a chance if he is serious about his cycling - He's thinks Rice who rides for Axeon Hagens Berman is flying under the radar and can make WT - Doesn't rate Dyball to reach WT and has queries on Cyrus Monk.
dirkprovin said:yaco said:
Possible to give us a summation of these assessments; sadly the sound card on my laptop has completely had the fritz !
It was divided into two parts mature men who are riding at the CT level/ Women young and old and the second part was young Aussie Men - The mature men covered CT riders from the NRS and mainly covered Isowhey Wellness Squad - Lane was brutal in his assessments and discussed in detail how individual riders could fit into a WT squad - The two riders he thought could make a WT team were the two oldest riders being Sean Lake and Scott Sunderland though age is against them - Women riders was all about Lucy Kennedy who will be in the WT peleton in 2018 - Shannon Malseed should make it to WT level in another two or three years - No surprises with the young Aussie riders - Expects Hamilton, Hindley, Storer, Stannard to make it to the WT level - Reading between the lines he seems most excited about Storer who he claims is still over-weight - I actually liken Storer to a young Richie Porte - He has queries on Jenner and Sweeney - Thinks D.Sutherland is coming from a long way back but is a chance if he is serious about his cycling - He's thinks Rice who rides for Axeon Hagens Berman is flying under the radar and can make WT - Doesn't rate Dyball to reach WT and has queries on Cyrus Monk.
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Would tend to agree with his view re NRS riders and their prospects. Dyball .... that boat has well and truly sailed
Kennedy ... go along with that
Not sure R.Porte is a particularly flattering parallel. One can only hope that young Storer is significantly better equipped between his ears than Froomey's one time bestie.
Agree fully re Jenner, haven't seen enough of Sweeney to comment. Rice ..... interesting but very limited opportunities to really set out his stall in front of the WT teams. He's going to need to make some decisions in the next couple of years. Monk ... has an trainee opening at Cannondale but think the odds are fairly much against him being getting anything longer term
yaco said:dirkprovin said:yaco said:
Possible to give us a summation of these assessments; sadly the sound card on my laptop has completely had the fritz !
It was divided into two parts mature men who are riding at the CT level/ Women young and old and the second part was young Aussie Men - The mature men covered CT riders from the NRS and mainly covered Isowhey Wellness Squad - Lane was brutal in his assessments and discussed in detail how individual riders could fit into a WT squad - The two riders he thought could make a WT team were the two oldest riders being Sean Lake and Scott Sunderland though age is against them - Women riders was all about Lucy Kennedy who will be in the WT peleton in 2018 - Shannon Malseed should make it to WT level in another two or three years - No surprises with the young Aussie riders - Expects Hamilton, Hindley, Storer, Stannard to make it to the WT level - Reading between the lines he seems most excited about Storer who he claims is still over-weight - I actually liken Storer to a young Richie Porte - He has queries on Jenner and Sweeney - Thinks D.Sutherland is coming from a long way back but is a chance if he is serious about his cycling - He's thinks Rice who rides for Axeon Hagens Berman is flying under the radar and can make WT - Doesn't rate Dyball to reach WT and has queries on Cyrus Monk.
Would tend to agree with his view re NRS riders and their prospects. Dyball .... that boat has well and truly sailed
Kennedy ... go along with that
Not sure R.Porte is a particularly flattering parallel. One can only hope that young Storer is significantly better equipped between his ears than Froomey's one time bestie.
Agree fully re Jenner, haven't seen enough of Sweeney to comment. Rice ..... interesting but very limited opportunities to really set out his stall in front of the WT teams. He's going to need to make some decisions in the next couple of years. Monk ... has an trainee opening at Cannondale but think the odds are fairly much against him being getting anything longer term
Jones has signed at Delko Marseille - He was one Lane thought could make it to WT level - He can win races at PCT level.
Many riders would kill to have Porte's palmares, especially another Aussie.
With regards to Sean Lake, yes his age might work against him, but he only started cycling recently (right?).
With regards to Sean Lake, yes his age might work against him, but he only started cycling recently (right?).
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Lake is an ex rower - Think he's been riding at CT level for three years - Has a big engine and did tests for Quick Step in 2016 - He's definitely good enough for PCT level.
greenedge said:
Lake is an ex rower - Think he's been riding at CT level for three years - Has a big engine and did tests for Quick Step in 2016 - He's definitely good enough for PCT level.
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They are indeed excellent palmares for the rider that Porte actually IS. Regrettably, his ambitions (so fervently bolstered by certain AUS media) range to a level significantly above that ..... and that is where he has shown his significant limitations on repeated occaisions.
One hopes he can be remembered and respected for being the former ..... rather than be remembered more for "falling short" of what he aspired to be.
greenedge said:
They are indeed excellent palmares for the rider that Porte actually IS. Regrettably, his ambitions (so fervently bolstered by certain AUS media) range to a level significantly above that ..... and that is where he has shown his significant limitations on repeated occaisions.
One hopes he can be remembered and respected for being the former ..... rather than be remembered more for "falling short" of what he aspired to be.
I get ending the streak but I would have ended it at 20 and given him that epic number, 18 swwms weird plus they could have given him a bigger congratulations
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For all of the talk about media hype about Porte, in the mainstream media it's still fairly moderate compared to the Evans years but then Evans had the pedigree while Porte is still looking for a podium. Be interesting to see what happens to Porte's descending style now. Will he still struggle to stay with his rivals on the technical descents or sit off the back a little like he did in the Dauphine and take a more conservative approach.
dirkprovin said:
For all of the talk about media hype about Porte, in the mainstream media it's still fairly moderate compared to the Evans years but then Evans had the pedigree while Porte is still looking for a podium. Be interesting to see what happens to Porte's descending style now. Will he still struggle to stay with his rivals on the technical descents or sit off the back a little like he did in the Dauphine and take a more conservative approach.
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The people have spoken?
Interesting that he comes in without having been one of the initially named reserves.movingtarget said:
The people have spoken?
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Maybe a fit Hansen would have been selected ahead of them? He did have a particularly bad saddle sore.swuzzlebubble said:
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Basically,
I don't really get dirkprovin's fixation on 'media hype' of certain australian riders. What do you expect? Ewan wins a few stages at the TDU every year, they need an australian rider of some sort to promote then event. It's not like he gets much 'hype' for the other 11 months of the year. Porte is the only australian who's looked capable of contending for a GT since cadel, so of course he's going to get coverage despite his obvious deficiencies.movingtarget said:
Basically,
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