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Bacon? I cannot freakin' believe it.

Look all this health craziness business is really quite tedious. The problem isn't bacon, but a model of consumption that has distorted the entire culture with its shameless excess; coupled with a sedentary lifestyle that most people, who are lazy, have not been able avoid under the impulse of modernity. Though rather than vilifying these things, its traditional food that takes all the bad wrap. At least the article recognizes the quantity aspect, without however addressing the personal responsibility in consumption and lifestyle issues. We moved from being peasants and workers, to sitting on our fat arses all day long, with automated transportation, while exponentially increasing our access to food in a century (this is what has been rather ironically been called “wellbeing”).

The devastating consequences to human health has simply been a foregone conclusion. As a society we went from being barely fed, or under fed, to overfed in a fortnight; while subscribing to an economic model based on conspicuous consumption and physical immobility, being that most people are addicted to their cars, that has caused an obesity epidemic and rampant coronary disease as well as other eating and lifestyle related illnesses. What this has done in causing healthcare costs to skyrocket alone is scandalous.

Of course there are a whole range of industrially produced foods, snacks, soft drinks etcetera that are best to avoid, but these aren't the same as traditional conserved food, that were once absolutely necessary for survival, like prosciutto, salamis, bacon, pancetta, lards, etc. I just think of all the beautiful cured meats of Norcia, or Tuscany!

One of my favorite pasta dishes is rigatoni alla gricia eaten in the trattorie of Rome, which is so simple (because a "poor man’s" plate that was meant to fill a hungry stomach, perhaps after a long day's work in the slaughterhouse of Testaccio or in the quarry along the Appia Antica - which one walked to every day religiously), yet delicious with only a few cheap ingredients as to be practically ridiculous:

rigatoni, olive oil, guanciale (a super fatty bacon from pig's cheek of Umbria and Lazio cured with lots of pepper and other spices), pecorino romano

cook the pasta in amply salted boiling water

sauté the sliced and cubed guanciale in a little olive oil making all the fat sweat out (other than bacon!) until the guanciale is crispy

add a little pasta water to the sauce just before the pasta is cooked, then drain the pasta and sauté it briefly into the sauce, turning to coat all well and evenly

plate the pasta and finish with a fair sprinkle of freshly crushed black pepper and a generous quantity of grated percorino romano

Voilà!

It's essential that the dish, though, use guanciale (or at the very least pancetta) and pecorino romano, otherwise it’s not the same. No, really, it aint the same! Bacon will not do! :D

PS: For anyone visiting Rome, go to Da Tonino on Via del Governo Vecchio for the gricia. Tonino uses pancetta, but it's still outrageously good.

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Though I' m allergic to pork and I can't even smell it, I find rediculous what the article writes about salt and chemicals that may damage health. Antibiotics and hormones and all this stuff that is used to keep animals alive and make them fat before slaughter, aren't they dangerous?

I agree with rhubroma. We don't live like our ancestors, we walk less, we move less, we eat more and not so good quality food and then we blame only the food and not our lifestyles in total.
 
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One in every 17 people followed in the study died

May such a study be called a "success"?

and lolwut:

However, those eating more than 160g of processed meat a day - roughly two sausages and a slice of bacon - were 44% more likely to die over a typical follow-up time of 12.7 years than those eating about 20g.

Who the hell does that?
 
BroDeal said:
Who woulda thought? Bacon is bad for you. In a weird coincidence, which I am beginning to suspect is a communist conspiracy, pretty much every hamburger joint in the U.S. is now putting bacon on its burgers. We're boned.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-21682779

No, don't believe all that crap. Seriously, why, if bacon cheeses burgers were bad for you would they be serving it to you? Why would they put bacon in milk shakes, or Crispy Cremes. Do they do that? They don't want to kill of all their customers, would they. i think not. :D
 
BroDeal said:
Heart attack on a plate. I'll wait for the pasta recipe that uses thirty bananas.

Yes, and while you're at it, throw in some mango for good measure and I'm sure you'll be in paradise.

On that, however, I'll certainly take my hell over your paradise any day.
 
veganrob said:
No, don't believe all that crap. Seriously, why, if bacon cheeses burgers were bad for you would they be serving it to you? Why would they put bacon in milk shakes, or Crispy Cremes. Do they do that? They don't want to kill of all their customers, would they. i think not. :D

Exactly, next they'll be saying cigarettes kill you.
 
Bacon makes you lean, restores your glycogen stores and is heart healthy as it is rich in saturated fat and endotoxins.

Steamed rice, potatoes and fruit however contribute to obesity, don't aid in glycogen restoration and are deficient in saturated fats and endotoxin loads are non existent.

I heard from a good source that Dr Atkins could out climb Rominger in his prime. Even though Atkins was 30 years older.
 
The latest in energy bars now...I'm hearing from a local bar company CEO that was just at expo west that several new bars have bacon or jerky as an ingredient....:eek:
some in a mix with fruit

Steak on a Stick all over again....
 
durianrider said:
Bacon makes you lean, restores your glycogen stores and is heart healthy as it is rich in saturated fat and endotoxins.

Steamed rice, potatoes and fruit however contribute to obesity, don't aid in glycogen restoration and are deficient in saturated fats and endotoxin loads are non existent.

I heard from a good source that Dr Atkins could out climb Rominger in his prime. Even though Atkins was 30 years older.

One or two rashers once or twice a month isn't going to kill you, especially if you are active and your diet is generally good.

I don't see anyone on here promoting atkins style diets either (blurgh!)
 
42x16ss said:
One or two rashers once or twice a month isn't going to kill you, especially if you are active and your diet is generally good.

I don't see anyone on here promoting atkins style diets either (blurgh!)

The average consumer of bacon: would they eat one or two rashers of bacon per month? I would have thought that if people like bacon they buy an amount every week and go through it all or it goes off. I know many people who eat bacon every day.

It's not just bacon, it's all preserved meats. So add to the bacon the ham, the prosciutto and anything else preserved in nitrites.

As for Atkins style diets, there are a number of posters in this forum who are still advocating low carb diets. One even claimed to be a cycle coach. Sorry I don't have time to dig out who they were, it's just my observation. I have a son who is a personal trainer and the high protein, low carb thing is still prominent in the gyms too. Far from dead.
 
Polyarmour said:
The average consumer of bacon: would they eat one or two rashers of bacon per month? I would have thought that if people like bacon they buy an amount every week and go through it all or it goes off. I know many people who eat bacon every day.

It's not just bacon, it's all preserved meats. So add to the bacon the ham, the prosciutto and anything else preserved in nitrites.

As for Atkins style diets, there are a number of posters in this forum who are still advocating low carb diets. One even claimed to be a cycle coach. Sorry I don't have time to dig out who they were, it's just my observation. I have a son who is a personal trainer and the high protein, low carb thing is still prominent in the gyms too. Far from dead.
Ok, I was going by what I have :D A couple of small serves a month.

I haven't seen anyone going all out and promoting Atkins style diets on here but I also haven't been looking that closely at what people are saying about their diets. I was more interested in calling out banana boy constantly assuming how other people live their lives.
 
alitogata said:
... Antibiotics and hormones and all this stuff that is used to keep animals alive and make them fat before slaughter, aren't they dangerous?

If you look at meat production like you would wine production, there's the cheap stuff raised under depressing conditions. It's safe, but the production process is depressing.

The good stuff, may still in fact have had some drugs to keep the animal healthy, but range raised and grass finished is both hard to find in urban centers, but worth the effort. It's another kind of food.

I won't stop eating the cured meats. Like the recipe posted, a good prosciutto, or whatever, is very satisfying. Again, they are hard to find.

My beef source: http://novyranches.com/ We eat lots of different cuts and every one is excellent, but expensive. We don't eat that much though, so it's a break-even. The ground beef will probably be a new experience for most. Some of the cuts cook more like a chicken breast than beef, so you need to pay attention.