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Wouldn't EF be behind LTS if you took away all the points their riders scored for their national teams in the last 3 years? I thought I saw that on PCS once.I'm happy that the relegation battle is basically already over and it isn't close, cause I would be ridiculously annoyed about these WC points if LTS would be like 300-400 points behind. Imagine getting points based on how good the women in your country are. It's straight up stupid how many points certain teams get from Nationals and Continental and World champs.
Some form of UCI points should be allowed at the WC. I wouldn’t put points on the mixed relay, but other than that I don’t see an issue with UCI points at WC’s. It’s one of the marquee events of the season.
Wouldn't EF be behind LTS if you took away all the points their riders scored for their national teams in the last 3 years? I thought I saw that on PCS once.
The whole thing would be way closer anyways cause Lotto literally haven't gotten points from championships the last 3 years because they're never selected.
If the Worlds didn't count for the team ranking, the field depth would be further below average than it already is this year... and Lotto riders not getting selected is, if anything, an indictment of Lotto.
I wasn't really aware of this either. Any idea if not lining up Ewan had something to do with it?
With Ewan in the team, Australia could basically have ended up with BikeExchange guys riding for their own relegation.
He stamped his papers when he pushed to attend the Leuven world's on an easier parcour and failed miserably to get around the course.
Well it might be but that's beside the point completely, see my other reply.
Counterpoint: not a single Belgian rider on Lotto would be a leader for any country you'd expect a top-10 from at any of the past three WCs.Not a single rider of any other team caught up in the relegation battle would be a leader in the Belgian team. Don't you see the problem? Having a ton of Belgian riders right now is just a disadvantage right now.
Doesn't that make it an advantage to not have many riders who get selected for the WCs this year? If anything, it's good to have a bunch of riders from big countries, especially if most of them are from the same country, because it puts a limit on the amount of riders going to Australia (even if Lotto let them go).Plus it's only a problem this year because it's in Australië. People are thinking it's due to the relegation battle mainly, but it isnt. It's because you miss 2 weeks of racing in Europe. Even UAE and Ineos are not sending certain riders because of it.
On your point regarding nationalities things even a lot more than you put, IMHO. For instance, BEX or EF have almost no home races, even without covid, whilst Lotto has a tone of small home races where they can score "cheap" points. Procycling it's very much a European sport trying to go global, but complete globalization is never possible - look at football, arguably the most international of all pro sports. You could award different point levels for the Nationals, depending on country ranking, that I would agree with you, but not taking them out altogether as it's still an incentive, however minor, to add riders from non-traditional cycling countries. Also wouldn't take points for team classification away from for the simple reason that home race calendars is also not even throughout countries. Awarding points to "national" races it's one of the ways of balancing things, whilst making sure that Worlds etc have as much a strong field as possible.
I know you're a Ewan hater but it's getting a bit pathetic. The guy literally just came back from a complex collorbone surgery. he had like 2 weeks to train for that. Don't act like Australia had so many good riders for that course that they shouldn't have given a spot to Ewan. That being said, he wouldn't have a shot at this Worlds and obviously them not selecting him doesn't have anything to do with the points.
Counterpoint: not a single Belgian rider on Lotto would be a leader for any country you'd expect a top-10 from at any of the past three WCs.
Doesn't that make it an advantage to not have many riders who get selected for the WCs this year? If anything, it's good to have a bunch of riders from big countries, especially if most of them are the same country, because it puts a limit on the amount of riders going to Australia (even if Lotto let them go).
And whatever disadvantage having a lot of Belgian riders could possibly bring at championships, is more than outweighed by Belgian riders generally being better suited than most to the plethora of Belgian races that have accounted for so many points in this relegation battle...
First of all. Australia season still went as planned in 2020 and a lot (basically all) of the Belgian smaller races were cancelled that year. That being said, yes ofcourse it's a disadvantage. I've said that before. Hell that's the whole reason why I'm a against a relegation system like we have today. Because it doesn't match sponsor interests. But is that relevant for the point I'm making? The point is that it is a TEAM ranking, so it should be based on how a TEAM performs in races. And Worlds or Continental champs have nothing to do with those teams.