Why is Dylan Teuns not counted in the top ten riders or have PCS made a mistake?
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only points scored during the time with Israel are counted and he has less than 100 at the moment
Why is Dylan Teuns not counted in the top ten riders or have PCS made a mistake?
UCI World teams
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Why is Dylan Teuns not counted in the top ten riders or have PCS made a mistake?
UCI World teams
www.procyclingstats.com
Why is Dylan Teuns not counted in the top ten riders or have PCS made a mistake?
UCI World teams
www.procyclingstats.com
De Gendt would be pushed out of cycling if it was all about results? He won a Giro stage this year and is a valuable teammate most of the time. Yes, he didn‘t do much this year but it isn‘t like he‘s Froome who rides at the back all day and gets paid big money.Cycling is and always has been about winning races and getting publicity for the people that sponsor the teams. The relegation system does not match with those 2 things. The point system rewards bad teamwork, going for multiple top 10s instead of quality wins and just riding as much races as you can. Before you know it they'll add UCI points to intermediate sprints that noone actually cares about. Teams sign people based on results and based on PR value. It always has been like that because they only way teams get money is because of sponsors. As long as the UCI and the organizations don't make it possible for teams to get a piece of the big money cake it will be like that and you can't blame teams for signing over the top stars. Take De Gendt for example, he would be pushed out of cycling already if teams didn't pay for PR value over results sometimes. Do we really want that? Take Pinot, he's probably earning the same as riders who gets 1500 UCI points every year while he get 500. You think FDJ cares? No, because he still gets them a massive amount of publicity. Hell, Nibali would've been out the sport for a while now if teams wouldn't care about PR cause no way someone would pay what he wants for his results.
I had the idea a while back of a "Great American Road Race" which would be bid on less by stage towns and more by regions, because a GT of North America is just not possible to do logistically without losing the character of a Grand Tour. The whole thing is that the Grand Tour format has kind of been developed around the geography of the countries that hold them. That's why I think that if the entire cycling calendar was removed tomorrow and a new one built from scratch, the three countries that host Grand Tours would be prime candidates to host them again. A Grand Tour that only tours a bit of a country (e.g. Tour of California) doesn't feel like a Grand Tour because the scope doesn't feel big enough (even if the geographic area is big enough), but then if you have a country so big that you can't reasonably cover a significant amount of it in three weeks of racing, it doesn't feel like a Grand Tour either because you haven't fully 'toured' that country. But if you take out the "Tour of the USA" type name and make it a sponsor concern, like the Coors Classic or the Tour Dupont (and to show this is not an anti-US thing, also events like the Clásico RCN, Clásico Banfoandes and in older times the Milk Race), it doesn't feel like a Grand Tour because of being more artificial, like, it can only exist so long as that sponsor is in on it. As a result, I think there's only a relatively small number of places that could viably host a 'new' GT that would feel right, with the geographical diversity and the ability to cover a large % of its territory, plus the infrastructure and so on to host the race, facilities to include mountaintop finishes and similar, and so on.
My idea was therefore that you could have a travelling carnival of a race that rotated around different parts of the US so it would always be quintessentially American but would vary in character from year to year. One year it could be in the East and North East, using the Appalachian mountains and the courses of the Philadelphia Criterium and the Richmond World Championships, one year it could be in the south and use Brasstown Bald and the mountains of the Carolinas and Tennessee, one year it could head down from the MidWest and finish in one of these mountain ranges (the problem is that very dull terrain in the centre of the US, remembering dour races like the Tour of Missouri), one year it could use the Pacific Northwest with Washington State, Oregon, Idaho and around there, one year it could start in Texas and work west through New Mexico, Arizona and Nevada to California, one year it could be in the central mountains like Utah, Colorado and Wyoming... but the problem would then be that it would be hard to establish the lore if you couldn't go back to particular places year upon year, especially given how cycling is nothing like as ingrained in the consciousness of the US as in France, Spain or Italy other than in particular cities and areas. And of course, certain areas that used to be iconic would not be as good designs when adapted to modern cycling even if I might be a sucker for tradition and feel the biggest problem with the USAPCC was the lack of the Morgul-Bismarck Loop and the Tour of the Moon.
Doing a regional type tour would enable them to include a few crits and the likes. I've always felt one of the biggest problems of all American stage races since the Armstrong era started was this determination to produce a facsimile of the Tour de France on American roads, rather than produce something that was characteristically an American race the way that the Coors Classic had been (whether its intentions may have been the same or not). It's why Utah always went down better with European audiences than the likes of California and USAPCC too - rather than try to force down your throat its own self-identity and promising things it could never deliver, the Tour of Utah just got on with putting forward the best bike race it could on the roads of Utah, and used the terrain - and scenery - that its home state had to offer - and it was all the better for that.
However, of course, it will never happen. They'd have to get special dispensation to run a race that long within UCI rules and if it was set up specifically as a rival to the UCI's WorldTour it would be opposed at every turn. If it went up against the Tour it would be a forgotten, irrelevant late-at-night sideshow for most of the biggest cycling fanbases, and if it didn't get UCI sanctioning then top riders would either not be able to enter or would have to get dispensation like Lance, Jason McCartney and Levi did to ride as Mellow Johnny's Cycle Shop Team - so not as their trade team, who would therefore have little interest in loaning out riders to enter races they couldn't get UCI points in if promotion/relegation stayed in force - in the Tour of the Gila in 2010.
Think you're wrong, my dude Sylvain is the type to get things done.Not going to be. Americans just don't care about European cycling, after which inevitably such a concept would be modelled.
De Gendt would be pushed out of cycling if it was all about results? He won a Giro stage this year and is a valuable teammate most of the time. Yes, he didn‘t do much this year but it isn‘t like he‘s Froome who rides at the back all day and gets paid big money.
Lotto has 18 WWT wins in the cycle - Bike Exchange has 17, EF has 24, yet Arkea has two and Cofidis has 3 - It's obvious who is gaming the system - The current point system rewards mediocrity over quality.
I don't want to completely oppose this, but in my eyes it's much more a sign how for instance Lotto is going for sprint wins. I wouldn't call a sprint win in the Saudi Tour or Turkey really a quality win. Fights like Geschkes for the polka dots or G Martin's racing, Lafay fighting in break aways will be much more remembered and add more to cycling in my eyes even if it's not a win. (And I say that despite liking Ewan a lot.)
Or world tour teams get half points in smaller races.I think the main problem is that the WT-teams Are competing directly against PCT-teams. It should be separate.
Example:
The ranking of the WT teams should be based entirely on points scored in WT races. Then you have a ranking of the WT teams based only on WT races. The worst or the two worst of the WT teams gets relegated.
Then you have a ranking of the PCT-teams. Here every race counts. The best or the two best of the PCT-teams gets promoted.
It would solve the whole “prioritize results in small races over the big races”-problem.
Or world tour teams get half points in smaller races.
I think the main problem is that the WT-teams Are competing directly against PCT-teams. It should be separate.
Example:
The ranking of the WT teams should be based entirely on points scored in WT races. Then you have a ranking of the WT teams based only on WT races. The worst or the two worst of the WT teams gets relegated.
Then you have a ranking of the PCT-teams. Here every race counts. The best or the two best of the PCT-teams gets promoted.
It would solve the whole “prioritize results in small races over the big races”-problem.
They can get a deduction too if it’s a small race with barely any WT or PCT teams. They can already ride at less races than WT. Teams like Movistar and Lotto are in trouble for their leaders getting injured while EF and Israel don’t belong as of now.You would just make it easier for the 2 best PCT teams. They can already choose their races and now they're also able to get more points for doing the same thing lol?
Seperate rankings and forced relegation will just make PCT teams that are worse than the worst WT teams go up at some point.
You would just make it easier for the 2 best PCT teams. They can already choose their races and now they're also able to get more points for doing the same thing lol?
Seperate rankings and forced relegation will just make PCT teams that are worse than the worst WT teams go up at some point.
I think the main problem is that the WT-teams Are competing directly against PCT-teams. It should be separate.
Example:
The ranking of the WT teams should be based entirely on points scored in WT races. Then you have a ranking of the WT teams based only on WT races. The worst or the two worst of the WT teams gets relegated.
Then you have a ranking of the PCT-teams. Here every race counts. The best or the two best of the PCT-teams gets promoted.
It would solve the whole “prioritize results in small races over the big races”-problem.