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Aug 16, 2011
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The Hitch said:
Watching the es highlights from stage 2, sagan went past contador and nocentini on the descent as if they were standing still.
Loved that part. :D And this was just in a prep race descent. Just think what he'll do descending the Poggio. :eek:
 
Aug 3, 2009
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A bit pointless as a poll, as we do not see on tv a lot of the guys in descents, but only a small group of either GT podium pretenders and whoever managed to escape, so how can we judge?

Without reading through all the posts, the gist i am getting is that everyone shouts out for the guy he likes most.

Pat

Btw where is little schleck, he descends like the devil himself was chasing him, esp if it is wet
 
Jan 11, 2010
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The Hitch said:
Watching the es highlights from stage 2, sagan went past contador and nocentini on the descent as if they were standing still.
He's about 10 kgs heavier than those guys, might also help a little.
 
Jul 16, 2010
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Cancellara, Hushovd, Sagan, Gilbert, Nibali.

There are also lot's of guys who can do a great descend, but we just don't know (a lot) about it because we never see it live on TV.
 
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I dont think ive ever seen someone quite in the exact position that Sagan was in that clip or on my avatar.

He was wobbling quite noticeably at one point but gets it under control just like youd expect him to, despite his other obvious talents his ex-stunt rider skills are clearly very helpful to him.

I vote Sagan!
 
then you probably don't watch cycling very often. . . even andy schleck has ridden on that position on multiple occasions before. . . .

p.s. providing some visual evidence

andy schleck doing it


the "whole" peloton doing it
 
Mar 15, 2011
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Parrulo said:
then you probably don't watch cycling very often. . . even andy schleck has ridden on that position on multiple occasions before. . . .

p.s. providing some visual evidence

andy schleck doing it


the "whole" peloton doing it
Ha, I thought this might happen. I meant specifically how far over the front wheel Sagans head was, AND his hand position (right on the bottom of the drops). Maybe I just havent seen enough descending since last season and forgotten, but I think Sagan does it so well it deserves to be called a new position!
 
Parrulo said:
then you probably don't watch cycling very often. . . even andy schleck has ridden on that position on multiple occasions before. . . .

p.s. providing some visual evidence

andy schleck doing it
Lol I remember Andy doing that once and then the guys descending "normally" like the guys behind him in the picture just passed him :D :cool: That was a nice moment.
 
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Aren't the best descenders in the grupetto? Cavendish and some of the other sprinters take a huge amount of time on everyone when trying to avoid time limits.
 
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MrTea1976 said:
Aren't the best descenders in the grupetto? Cavendish and some of the other sprinters take a huge amount of time on everyone when trying to avoid time limits.
This is certainly true. But I don't think we can underestimate the guys at the front who are often racing downhill, as opposed to 'just' trying to get down as fast as they can - that is, actually opening up gaps on others, taking the extra speed and risks such that another skilled rider behind can't follow. Nibali's descent to win the stage at Asolo 2010 sticks in the mind because he was still a potential GC contender but managed to ride away downhill from both Evans and Vino who were both extremely talented descenders themselves.
 
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VO2 Max said:
This is certainly true. But I don't think we can underestimate the guys at the front who are often racing downhill, as opposed to 'just' trying to get down as fast as they can - that is, actually opening up gaps on others, taking the extra speed and risks such that another skilled rider behind can't follow. Nibali's descent to win the stage at Asolo 2010 sticks in the mind because he was still a potential GC contender but managed to ride away downhill from both Evans and Vino who were both extremely talented descenders themselves.
aye. Nibali can do some crazy **** when he really wants to. Vino won the 06 Vuelta on a decent, but in the later years of his career (after the ban) he was not as crazy as earlier.
 
everybody keeps saying that it's very difficult to say because there are not comparisons. And this makes me think, why the hell aren't some technical downhill only prologues used from time to time. That should be fun to watch. And in some GT e.g., the field would be wide enough that we would have much of our comparation, although there would definately remain some question marks.

I have voted for sagan, btw. Cancellara and Nibali behind him. He has a little bit more skill and gutts than those two. And definately more acceleration from the turns, which is very important too. And he was learning the downhill skill regularly as a teenager from this guy.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLRSj5i4XTU
 

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