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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Knee problems in the early season for Langeveld
Maaskant probably has a virus/pfeiffer considering he is now getting his blood checked after feeling crap all season (and having to abandon Montreal/Quebec after 1/2 laps)
And Arnout is awfully early at calling riders "stagnating" or "not-progressing" when they ares still so young. F.ex a guy like Maaskant is only a 3rd year pro..

Maybe Arnout doesn't know, but a guy like Philippe Gilbert "stagnated" for years at Fdjeux if we take Arnouts view on cycling. Because between his 2004 and 2008 he barely made any progression at all, especially in the though hilly classics like Amstel, Liege, Lombardia. Then he goes to Lotto and lookey, Gilbert breaks through.

So, better not write them off already. You don't do the same with Nieve/Anton/Intxausti too, do you Arnout? ;-)

Intxausti is a difficult story, it seems he's mentally too weak to cope with the expectations of his close family and friends. If that situation doesn't change, he might be a one hit wonder...

Of course it is always possible to make a breakthrough after some mediocre seasons. I don't see them coming however for guys like Posthuma and Weening.

But when they breakthrough, it is often not the merit of the team. I mean, the only talents making a good impression with Rabobank now are Kruiswijk, Mollema and Gesink and all I hear Breukink saying about them is that he doesn't have to push them because they are pushing themselves.
 
Arnout said:
Intxausti is a difficult story, it seems he's mentally too weak to cope with the expectations of his close family and friends. If that situation doesn't change, he might be a one hit wonder...

Of course it is always possible to make a breakthrough after some mediocre seasons. I don't see them coming however for guys like Posthuma and Weening.

But when they breakthrough, it is often not the merit of the team. I mean, the only talents making a good impression with Rabobank now are Kruiswijk, Mollema and Gesink and all I hear Breukink saying about them is that he doesn't have to push them because they are pushing themselves.
Ultimately the motivation has to come from within, so that doesn't surprise me. You think someone tells Nibali to go out training every day? Or Uran? And chances are if Intxausti were a Rabo rider, you'd criticize Rabo management rather than the rider himself.
 
theyoungest said:
Ultimately the motivation has to come from within, so that doesn't surprise me. You think someone tells Nibali to go out training every day? Or Uran? And chances are if Intxausti were a Rabo rider, you'd criticize Rabo management rather than the rider himself.
I don't think it's just a matter of not training enough. For example, no one trains less than Freire.