Best pain-fighter?

[auscyclefan94]

Yet know doubt 2 or 3 weeks from now you will start complaining about how everyone else on the forum is a fanboy (of whichever rider happens to be not to your liking at that point)

tell someone who cares...whatever.

The reason why i say such things is because I have been accused of defending Evans because I am a fan of his and not through logical argument. I accuse other fans of riders doing the same thing yet they become all defensive about it even though they are no different to my 'fanboyness'

 

[Kvinto]

i think Evans really fits the criteria of a pain-fighter, as well as Vino or Gesink...

 

[El Pistolero]

He has three options: Gilbert, Contador, or Boonen, and of those three, Gilbert could be the one who looks to be suffering a little

That would actually be Contador instead of Gilbert.

Still dont get the joke. Seems to me you are just trying to turn this into a Gilbert thread by yet again praising his Giro Lombardy win from 2010

If you didn't whine about it, there wouldn't have been more than 1 post about it here. And my original post said Gilbert doesn't belong here because he doesn't feel the pain thus can't be the biggest pain fighter which is obviously not to be taken seriously, duh. My real answer was Voigt, who doesn't need any explanation.

 

[insideout leadout]

Evans at Zoncolan last year...

 

[El Pistolero]

Does it have to be active riders by the way?

Eddy Merckx was known for his high pain tolerance. Once he passed out at the finish of a climb because he pushed him self way too hard(and he didn't even had to!). And he finished the Tour with a broken jaw unable to eat any non-liquid food. In the 70s!

 

[insideout leadout]

Vanishing twins set aside this guy could endure pain. Don't know how much fake it was though.

 

[Kvinto]

tbh i'm curious a bit, do we make a partition between a pain-fighter and a rider with a suffering face? of course it a hard thing to determine but looking at Basso in mountains at some moment i start thinking it's not a pain-fighting but just his specific way of ride

 

[insideout leadout]

Basso looks like that when it starts to rain. Basically whenever it gets a little less convenient on the bike.

 

[Arnout]

Still dont get the joke. Seems to me you are just trying to turn this into a Gilbert thread by yet again praising his Giro Lombardy win from 2010

Just ignore him. He says its a joke but starts to react all defensive and explaining what he means when he says Gilbert.

But we shouldn't take it seriously as its only very funny.

 

[El Pistolero]

tbh i'm curious a bit, do we make a partition between a pain-fighter and a rider with a suffering face? of course it a hard thing to determine but looking at Basso in mountains at some moment i start thinking it's not a pain-fighting but just his specific way of ride

Thomas Voeckler wins that prize

 

[Angliru]

Painface-factor:

1. Voigt
2. Chris Anker Sorensen
3. Gesink

Rest: No one comes close.

I sometimes wonder if the "painface" is simply mugging for the camera. Voigt and Voeckler seem to be the ones that get the most media attention for their big hearts partially based on their "painfaces" ala Virenque. As much as Voigt thrives on being on camera often putting on a show as often as possible when the moto camera is present, I have to question how much is actual suffering and how much is simply drama for the sake of drama. It might also be that my perspective has been skewed by the P&P's (Phil and Paul) passionate man-crush on Voigt, virtually have simultaneous orgasms every time he appears on camera.

Anker Sorensen always, always appears to be suffering.

 

[Mellow Velo]

tbh i'm curious a bit, do we make a partition between a pain-fighter and a rider with a suffering face? of course it a hard thing to determine but looking at Basso in mountains at some moment i start thinking it's not a pain-fighting but just his specific way of ride

Exactly what I was thinking. Instead of the best pain-fighter, we are picking the worst. (assuming every rider is working at his threshold)

In which case we should have gone for the likes of the twin grins of Horner and Leipheimer on Mt Baldy, or Mr "I'm so relaxed can shoot Pistol" Contador on the Angliru.

As for Evans, he looks more like he's suffering with back ache from his "chewing the handlebars" style.

 

[will10]

"This is pain."

I'd forgotten that one, an amazing race, Wegmann murdering himself to get back to Bettini, Bettini bouncing off the walls on the descent to win for his brother, Samu's amazing downhill to catch Wegmann in the last k...magnificent.

 

[El Pistolero]

Exactly what I was thinking. Instead of the best pain-fighter, we are picking the worst. (assuming every rider is working at his threshold)

In which case we should have gone for the likes of the twin grins of Horner and Leipheimer on Mt Baldy, or Mr "I'm so relaxed can shoot Pistol" Contador on the Angliru.

As for Evans, he looks more like he's suffering with back ache from his "chewing the handlebars" style.

In some cases though you can clearly see when someone went over their limit. Navarro last year for example when he was pacing Contador. That didn't look very healthy.

 

[Angliru]

Err...why can't diesels suffer? I don't see how style of rider has anything to do with pain threshold. Hypothetically Alberto Contador could be a good pain fighter because he is able to go harder than other competitors while enduring an increased level of pain. Evans is well known as a sufferer or someone who is seen to be suffering/working harder than his opponents through his style on his bike and his facial expressions.

It's not necessarily that Evans appears to be working harder than some of his opponents its more that he is less fluid on his bike in the mountains than some of his opponents. His style isn't one of being one with his bike, it's almost as if his bike is fighting his every effort and he's trying to wrestle it into submission. Nevertheless his ability to continue on at such a high level even when it appears he's been put in the red is quite impressive.

 

[Angliru]

tbh i'm curious a bit, do we make a partition between a pain-fighter and a rider with a suffering face? of course it a hard thing to determine but looking at Basso in mountains at some moment i start thinking it's not a pain-fighting but just his specific way of ride

I agree. Basso nickname, "The Smiling Assassin", is likely derived from his natural expression when he's working hard. Some riders mask it quite well and others don't.

 

[El Pistolero]

"This is pain."

"Ik heb toch de indruk dat bij Rebellin de leeftijd wat begint op te spelen."

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Not me

I collapsed my ankle last thursday and I still can't stand the pain

 

[bobbins]

Russ Downing in the Tour of Ireland. Proper suffering!

 

[Michielveedeebee]

Voeckler, CAS

 

[Kvinto]

Not me

I collapsed my ankle last thursday and I still can't stand the pain

how about a suffering face then?

 

[El Pistolero]

Voeckler, CAS

Take the camera away from Voeckler and the weird faces disappear as well.

 

[Michielveedeebee]

Take the camera away from Voeckler and the weird faces disappear as well.

True dat, but he can suffer

 

[Andrichuk]

My vote goes to Jeremy Roy.

 

[c&cfan]

Sorry to kill off your fairy tale but I was there live and Gilbert looked absolutely spent as well, just as much as all the others.

People on the cyclingnews forums, don't buy this story as its not true

if you want to talk about that go to the clinic.