How could I forget the 2010 Giro wtf.
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How could I forget the 2010 Giro wtf.
Because for me 2011 and 2012 I have basically together as worst Tours, so one thing can put one over the other.Why is an incident with tacks on the road in itself determining of whether or not a Grand Tour was the worst ever? What about the 2018 Tour and the pepper spray incident?
I get that you think 2012 was one of the worst. There was little to no excitement and there was never any doubt what the end result was going to be. 2011 wasn't the best Tour, but at least the last week was pretty enjoyable to watch. Especially the 'shorter' mountain stage won by Andy Schleck was a nice one.Because for me 2011 and 2012 I have basically together as worst Tours, so one thing can put one over the other.
I get that you think 2012 was one of the worst. There was little to no excitement and there was never any doubt what the end result was going to be. 2011 wasn't the best Tour, but at least the last week was pretty enjoyable to watch. Especially the 'shorter' mountain stage won by Andy Schleck was a nice one.
Sure, but I didn't say it was the only decent stage.You can have a nice stage in a race that is overall not good.
Was this sarcasm or conflating stages 18 and 19? Honest question - especially with the quotation marks, I'm not sure if you're mixing the two stages up or if it's a sarcastic reference to ASO's later responses. The stage Andy won was 200km long. The Alpe d'Huez stage was 110km long.I get that you think 2012 was one of the worst. There was little to no excitement and there was never any doubt what the end result was going to be. 2011 wasn't the best Tour, but at least the last week was pretty enjoyable to watch. Especially the 'shorter' mountain stage won by Andy Schleck was a nice one.
Scarponi even said this, that they saw him suffering and didn't take him seriously enough to ride him out of contention at that point as a result, thinking he would fall away. However throughout his admittedly relatively brief period as a GC rider, Hesjedal always rode better as the race went on and by the time he was hitting form, several of the others were losing theirs.I think the main reason why they didn't really take Ryder serious in 2012 was because he was getting dropped everytime the pace went up in the gc ground on the Lago Laceno stage that was won by Pozzovivo, if they actually rode harder they could have put a decent amount of time into him. They probably saw that as his actual climbing level and were pretty confident that he would crack in the high mountains. Basso didn't have the legs to do anything after the Cortina stage, neither did Scarponi, Pozzovivo did a Pozzovivo and lost lots of time on stage 15 with bad weather and on the final MTf (who the hell thinks that a Stelvio MTF is a good final mountain stage, make that one end in Bormio before the Stelvio and they'll go all out on the unseen side of the Mortirolo).
Still, nothing big really happening, day after day, only Basso even tried to keep the pace high on the Giau, that was a really, really bad Giro.
Just out of curiosity to the people that thought that the Tour 2010 was great. What did you like about that one?
I thought it was a bad one IMHO.
My favourite Grand Tours of the 21st Century.
Tour de France, 2014.
Giro d'Italia, 2012 & 2018.
Vuelta a España, 2006, 2012 & 2013.