Blood doped. What can I expect?

[Alex Simmons/RST]

It's unfortunate for a subject to know what is being re-infused (other than it is safe of course). It should be double blinded and include controls that are known to have no real effect.

Test subject knowledge of the intervention introduces unnecessary bias to results.

 

[DirtyWorks]

if you could devise a test for it, some smart lab cookie is probably already on it.

This isn't a direct reply to you, so please don't take it the wrong way.

Where would they get the funding? How much would a successful test cost?

Let's imagine an infusion test is approved by WADA, the federations catch a couple of low-ranking athletes and others "never test positive."

In conclusion, the Biopassport is largely theater.

Like some other posts, I too am very interested in hearing the experiences. Good luck.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

It's unfortunate for a subject to know what is being re-infused (other than it is safe of course). It should be double blinded and include controls that are known to have no real effect.

Test subject knowledge of the intervention introduces unnecessary bias to results.

This isn't a direct reply to you, so please don't take it the wrong way.
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Like some other posts, I too am very interested in hearing the experiences. Good luck.

Just FYI: it's a necro post from 2010.

 

[ralphbert]

Test subject knowledge of the intervention introduces unnecessary bias to results.

Are you suggesting that the subject will test negative if they think they aren't cheating?

Explains Armstrong's 500 tests.....

 

[Will Carter]

are you suggesting that the subject will test negative if they think they aren't cheating?

Explains armstrong's 500 tests.....

roflmao...

 

[RedheadDane]

Why is that?

(Yeah, just replying to a post fours years after the fact, don't mind me. )

Guess I didn't bother reading the actual post, just the headline. You're free to whack me on the head with a wet rolled-up newspaper!

(If you can find me.)

 

[hrotha]

So, how did the experiment go, Chris?

 

[Alex Simmons/RST]

Just FYI: it's a necro post from 2010.

lol, I missed that.

 

[Alex Simmons/RST]

Are you suggesting that the subject will test negative if they think they aren't cheating?

Explains Armstrong's 500 tests.....

no, but funny.

I don't know what they were testing for. It could be for testing of detection methods, it could be testing ergogenic impact, or something else. Why not blind the subject and limit potential for bias or confounding factors?

 

[Netserk]

no, but funny.

I don't know what they were testing for. It could be for testing of detection methods, it could be testing ergogenic impact, or something else. Why not blind the subject and limit potential for bias or confounding factors?

See the OP:

Hello everyone. I hope you understand my English
I am going to be a part of an experiment where I will be blood doped. I have to donate 450 ml blood and a month after I will get it back. The HCT should be around 60 in the reinjection.
Is this enough to give me a remarkable boost?
The experiment is legal and a purpose of trying to find a method to detect autologous transfusions.

 

[More Strides than Rides]

I've never donated blood, but I've heard that adding a BB is as significant as the difference between post- and pre- donation. Makes sense, obviously.

Poster is probably long gone, but I wish he/she was around to share their experience.

Wonder if the study led to anything significant?

 

[Berzin]

Maybe the OP was a troll posting nonsense to get you guys going.

CLOSED.