BMC in disarray?

[on3m@n@rmy]

It's a good race between RadioShack & BMC for worst team of the year award.

I wonder which team will get the prestigious yellow girls blouse jersey at the end of the season?

lol. Still plenty of season left though. Enough for BMC to pull a rabbit out of the hat by the end of July. But if BMC is still included in this conversation by the end of July...

 

[Panda Claws]

don't think so- even if he "somehow" is able to reach good shape-it only be for L-B-L, but unlike last year, he will have "real" competition against him this time around-not of course in the shape of the Schleck darlings

The Schleck darlings who were way better than anyone but Gilbert.

 

[c&cfan]

They can't be considered that with Evans' victory in CI and Ballan's podium at RVV. A big disappointment, yes.

of course we can. ball an was never close to win it and CI is a very small race. obviously they are in the right path. you have to consider who the team is, who their signings were, how much money they gave away and what their goals were.

also, consider who their fans are.

-acf
-pistrollero
-dlwsomething

 

[c&cfan]

At least BMC podiumed 2 Monuments. What did Radioshack do again?

a 2nd place in one.

 

[Angliru]

of course we can. ball an was never close to win it and CI is a very small race. obviously they are in the right path. you have to consider who the team is, who their signings were, how much money they gave away and what their goals were.

also, consider who their fans are.

-acf
-pistrollero
-dlwsomething

I think Pistollero is much more a fan of Gilbert than a BMC fan. You do have a point with dlw.....(can't remember his name either). ACF has gotten much more reasonable in time.

 

[c&cfan]

I think Pistollero is much more a fan of Gilbert than a BMC fan. You do have a point with dlw.....(can't remember his name either). ACF has gotten much more reasonable in time.

pistollero has no facts and no logic to back him up. he also does not know the meaning of common sense, context and interpretation.

their biggest hope was murdered today..
only the hard working ballan stands between BMC becoming the biggest flop and BMC becoming a black hole of floppness (this doesn't exist, does it?)

 

[spalco]

pistollero has no facts and no logic to back him up. he also does not know the meaning of common sense, context and interpretation.

His reading comprehension skills are seriously lacking too. What he thinks people are saying rarely has any direct connection to what people actually wrote.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Just watched the finish.

Have to say, hat off to Gilbert. Had the courage to take it up way too early, even though he was the marked man.
But, as predicted, a couple of percent off last year's super human form makes all the difference. Back to scrapping with the other top contenders.
By next weekend? Could get very close to getting BMC's first road victory of the year.

I'd like to know what was with Cadel today, climbing off so early.

 

[Panda Claws]

pistollero has no facts and no logic to back him up. he also does not know the meaning of common sense, context and interpretation.

their biggest hope was murdered today..
only the hard working ballan stands between BMC becoming the biggest flop and BMC becoming a black hole of floppness (this doesn't exist, does it?)

Gilbert was indeed beaten, but 'murdered'? Hmmm, hard to say but he did had to start his sprint way too early. Who knows what he might have done otherwise.

 

[c&cfan]

Gilbert was indeed beaten, but 'murdered'? Hmmm, hard to say but he did had to start his sprint way too early. Who knows what he might have done otherwise.

what if sagan was more ice cold, instead of attacking with TV a few km before?
what if.. well. he was murdered. 0 left. clearly beaten.

 

[El Pistolero]

He did a 5 second attack with Voeckler.

 

[thehog]

At least BMC podiumed 2 Monuments. What did Radioshack do again?

I'm not sure that's something to excited about. It's like like saying my *** stinks more than yours. End of the day they both stink.

 

[El Pistolero]

I'm not sure that's something to excited about. It's like like saying my *** stinks more than yours. End of the day they both stink.

At the end of the day people only say BMC's **** stinks while they completely ignore a bigger smell and it's coming from Radioshack. That's my point

 

[Parrulo]

He did a 5 second attack with Voeckler.

exactly, the "attacked with voeckler" argument is stupid. it was a 5 secs attack, it's not like they rode 100k at the front

 

[thehog]

At the end of the day people only say BMC's **** stinks while they completely ignore a bigger smell and it's coming from Radioshack. That's my point

I actually agree with you but would anyone ever want to argue over who's stink smells the most?

It's all bad when the whistle blows.

If anyone is keeping score of the worst sponsorships of all time then RadioShack gets that price. They deserve to go into liquidation for this.... what were they thinking?

 

[luckyboy]

Gilbert finding form from somewhere just in time for the most important week of his season..

 

[Panda Claws]

Gilbert finding form from somewhere just in time for the most important week of his season..

More like steadily growing.

Also, these are 'his' races now, people always underestimate the mental advantage that gives.

In an extreme endurance sport like cycling this can mean a lot.

 

[karlboss]

Honestly I think "team" BMC have looked great all season, they take responsibility for chasing and have delivered their captain to the business end of affairs in almost every case. GVA has been one of my riders of the season, has pulling pulling ultra loyal domestique duties and in some cases I'd say should have captained the team. Maybe again at Amstel ?
Now the BMC captains...well they have a little work to do, but there have been a few posititve signs. As long as Gilbert wasn't paid as though he'd repeat, or Hushovd to actually win roubaix all is going well.

Is anyone thinking about the Gilbert suggesting he was going to the tour to learn from Evans, and perhaps is already working for a peak at the tour instead of the Classics?

 

[Panda Claws]

Honestly I think "team" BMC have looked great all season, they take responsibility for chasing and have delivered their captain to the business end of affairs in almost every case. GVA has been one of my riders of the season, has pulling pulling ultra loyal domestique duties and in some cases I'd say should have captained the team. Maybe again at Amstel ?
Now the BMC captains...well they have a little work to do, but there have been a few posititve signs. As long as Gilbert wasn't paid as though he'd repeat, or Hushovd to actually win roubaix all is going well.

Is anyone thinking about the Gilbert suggesting he was going to the tour to learn from Evans, and perhaps is already working for a peak at the tour instead of the Classics?

Gilbert planned 2 peaks: One for the Ardennes Classics and one for the Worlds

 

[Angliru]

Honestly I think "team" BMC have looked great all season, they take responsibility for chasing and have delivered their captain to the business end of affairs in almost every case. GVA has been one of my riders of the season, has pulling pulling ultra loyal domestique duties and in some cases I'd say should have captained the team. Maybe again at Amstel ?
Now the BMC captains...well they have a little work to do, but there have been a few posititve signs. As long as Gilbert wasn't paid as though he'd repeat, or Hushovd to actually win roubaix all is going well.

Is anyone thinking about the Gilbert suggesting he was going to the tour to learn from Evans, and perhaps is already working for a peak at the tour instead of the Classics?

Not at all. Why would he put his entire focus on the Tour at the expense of getting results in the Ardennes? You think his sole role for the season was to ride as valet to Evans to learn the ropes? No offense to Evans but what exactly can he teach Gilbert that is worth throwing away potential victories earlier in the season?

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

It's a good race between RadioShack & BMC for worst team of the year award.

I wonder which team will get the prestigious yellow girls blouse at the end of the season?

It's a long season and there are many opportunities for a well-timed trip to Tenerife.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Honestly I think "team" BMC have looked great all season, they take responsibility for chasing and have delivered their captain to the business end of affairs in almost every case. GVA has been one of my riders of the season, has pulling pulling ultra loyal domestique duties and in some cases I'd say should have captained the team. Maybe again at Amstel ?
Now the BMC captains...well they have a little work to do, but there have been a few posititve signs. As long as Gilbert wasn't paid as though he'd repeat, or Hushovd to actually win roubaix all is going well.

Is anyone thinking about the Gilbert suggesting he was going to the tour to learn from Evans, and perhaps is already working for a peak at the tour instead of the Classics?

I agree. They have taken control in a lot of races this year. It just hasn't payed off for them yet. The results will come.

It is a shame that BMC's 3 big hitters (Gilbert, Thor and Cadel) have all been ill and/or have had some bad luck. Cadel is not getting younger and I did hope that he would have had some good form so he could win a classic this week but that's life.

 

[c&cfan]

I agree. They have taken control in a lot of races this year. It just hasn't payed off for them yet. The results will come.

It is a shame that BMC's 3 big hitters (Gilbert, Thor and Cadel) have all been ill and/or have had some bad luck. Cadel is not getting younger and I did hope that he would have had some good form so he could win a classic this week but that's life.

they were never in control.. they were doing what other teams wanted. omegapharma was in control, not BMC. never BMC, not even today.

 

[karlboss]

Not at all. Why would he put his entire focus on the Tour at the expense of getting results in the Ardennes? You think his sole role for the season was to ride as valet to Evans to learn the ropes? No offense to Evans but what exactly can he teach Gilbert that is worth throwing away potential victories earlier in the season?

It was a secondary focus he stated when he signed. Early season sloppy form compared to last season only now starting to find something resembling form. Hence the thought. Realistically I'd agree with most, too much party in the off season, the more cynical part belongs with personel change from OPL to OPQS and in another forum.

Q1. If GT ride can rider the Ardennes strongly and then a GT, maybe Phil was thinking he could still win a few classics at 95%, and then perform at the tour.
Q2. Obviously not his sole role, but one he thought he could aim for without sacrificing the ardennes, but requiring a later peak.
Q3. What can Evans teach?...nothing really these are the words that riders use when they want to say I'm riding for a result at race X, but no offense to my team captain

 

[c&cfan]

It was a secondary focus he stated when he signed. Early season sloppy form compared to last season only now starting to find something resembling form. Hence the thought. Realistically I'd agree with most, too much party in the off season, the more cynical part belongs with personel change from OPL to OPQS and in another forum.

Q1. If GT ride can rider the Ardennes strongly and then a GT, maybe Phil was thinking he could still win a few classics at 95%, and then perform at the tour.
Q2. Obviously not his sole role, but one he thought he could aim for without sacrificing the ardennes, but requiring a later peak.
Q3. What can Evans teach?...nothing really these are the words that riders use when they want to say I'm riding for a result at race X, but no offense to my team captain

phil is not valverde.