PCutter said:
You mean this one? http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ard-link-kittel-to-german-blood-doping-investigation
I'm not judging, but he shouldn't overdo it...
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laughingcavalier said:The part of McGee's article I liked best was where he talked about preventing doping:
"The three most important points I see in preventing doping are:
1. Knowing the rules and difference between right and wrong. Never knowingly or unknowingly crossing the line. Sports institutes and federations like the Australian Institute of Sport or Cycling Australia have the resources to provide education, but there are holes in that process outside these systems, for instance in smaller teams. I see national-based big budget teams like Sky and Orica-GreenEDGE playing an important role.
2. Know your capabilities and set achievable targets.
Bravado and headline-seeking lofty ambitions can create, in my mind, a trigger for bad decisions further down the road.
3. Know the people around you. Be sure they will support you in success or failure and will never support unethical choices."
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cycling...f-my-career-20121026-28aif.html#ixzz2APTwy46R
laughingcavalier said:The part of McGee's article I liked best was where he talked about preventing doping:
"The three most important points I see in preventing doping are:
1. Knowing the rules and difference between right and wrong. Never knowingly or unknowingly crossing the line. Sports institutes and federations like the Australian Institute of Sport or Cycling Australia have the resources to provide education, but there are holes in that process outside these systems, for instance in smaller teams. I see national-based big budget teams like Sky and Orica-GreenEDGE playing an important role.
2. Know your capabilities and set achievable targets.
Bravado and headline-seeking lofty ambitions can create, in my mind, a trigger for bad decisions further down the road.
3. Know the people around you. Be sure they will support you in success or failure and will never support unethical choices."
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cycling...f-my-career-20121026-28aif.html#ixzz2APTwy46R
martinvickers said:We all would love a revolution - the dopers named, shamed - the clean lauded, - the omerta shattered - all in one neat media friendly eruption.
But real life doesn't work like that - it's a chipping away; attrition; trickle becomes a stream becomes a river. Not as cathartic, sadly, but it doesn't ean it dosn't lead, eventually, to a better place
A few years ago, contador's 'protection' of Armstrong would hardly be noteworthy; they all did that. Tody, his defence of Armstrong, along with other Spanish dopers is treated with contempt, and teams, rightly or wrongly, are tripping over thmesleves to prove, or improve, clean credentials.
You have journalists not afraid to say that the presence of Riis, Vino and Ekimov among the directors is bad news. You have Paul Kimmage defended by the cycling public to the hilt - 10 years ago many, if not most, would have dismissed him as a troublemaker.
This McGee Article, the Kittel comments, even the Hamilton book would have been unthinkable a decade ago.
The arc of moral universe is long. but it bends towards justice.
red_flanders said:His performances and statements are credible to me. I believe him, he sounds like what I'd expect a clean rider from that era to sound like.
I like what he has to say.
Surfdelux said:I like the moral arc comment too.
I've also always liked Brad McGee. Talented, hard-working rider who left his guts out on the tarmac each time.
He writes well, and convincingly. He's either a hero to be lauded for staying true to the cause through thick n thin, or he's a bloody stellar liar. I sure hope the former.
What's needed is for some of the crooks who offered him drugs to come out and say "yep, that was me, and I can verify that Brad was uncorruptable".
Verification and praise please, if you dare.
It's the least you can give right now, but oh so important.
cineteq said:It's not my logic, it's reality. Even if he was not doping he was supporting omerta, the system, and that counts too as not being (completely) clean.
Benotti69 said:I dont equate Bjarne Riis and clean cycling as being on the same planet!
So McGee is not telling us something.
Martin318is said:Logic gap.
Sarcastic Wet Trout said:Well, at least he is consistent. Benotti69 believes since Riis is on this planet, everyone is a doper.
observer said:I think Millar retweeted his article, so I'm guessing that's some sort of endorsement of at least the part of the story including him.
Mcgee should be able to be a DS on CSC / Saxo /Tinkoff without a major take-down. Dont have a problem here. I think he is a professional DS who steps into a major void Kim Andersen leftMartin318is said:Logic gap.
You are assuming that he was aware of whatever it is you think he coyld tell. If, for instance, Contador's doping was behind closed doors and/or in Spain, why is it certain that Brad would hear of it? If Bjarne hired uim partly for his clean reputation, he would of course ensure that Brad was somwhere else if dodgy things are discussed.
rata de sentina said:Not surprised. McGee has a "clean" reputation also he rode most of his career for FDJ which is not exactly a doping hothouse