British Identity

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hrotha said:
Millar has even less of a relationship with the Maltese cycling federation than with Malta itself.

As far as I know he wanted to compete for them in the last Games for Small European States and Luxembourg was going to formally protest that ... don't know if any of that really happened or if he decided not to start in the end. In any case it ended up being a Bob Jungels clean sweap (RR & ITT) :cool:
 
Urban dictionary has a definition for "Britain"


1. Britain
The only culture alive that can use the word "c***" as any available part-of-speech.

2. Britain
A nation that invented Football for the Brazilians, Cricket for the Aussies, Rugby for the Kiwis and Robbie Williams for the Gays

3. Britain
Britain is a Sovereign state made up of Wales, Scotland and England. The superpower of the 19th century, Britain is still the fifth largest economy and owns (arguably) the 3rd most powerful armed force. Britain is home to almost 60 million people, 1/5th the size of the USA), or about the same as France and Italy.

Very small for it's population, Britain is one of the densest populated western nations. As the United Kingdom (including Northern Ireland), it is a member of the European Union.

Domestic problems in Northern Ireland have meant that Britain has had to deal with terrorism more frequently than most of its European counterparts. This issue has become less of a problem in the last 5 years, since the Northern Ireland assembly was set up and the IRA declared an indefinite cease-fire.

Once in possession of a number of Colonies, Britain now only holds a few smaller island colonies around the world.

Britain closest ally is still the USA, which it has held a special relationship with since the early 20th century.
 
Jan 18, 2010
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Siriuscat said:
Jeez, I just wasted ten minutes reading all this garbage....worst Internet thread in history.

I'm off to be Scottish first, British second:rolleyes:


Its right up there.. Yahoo message boards you've got a competitor.

I'm just proud to have participated to be fair.
 
Waterloo Sunrise said:
The rest of us in the productive UK are praying too. Just hope your great leader doesn't take the cowardly way out and ****** about with Devo-max when he realises most Scots are not quite stupid enough to vote against the hand that feeds.

Excellent, vote 1 for independence. No, wait you can't vote on Scottish matters unlike us who can and do influence all things in the UK. Indeed governed tf largely for the past decade or so.

Devo-max is a good option. We get greater powers but still have a major presence in London. Win win win. Feed us some more. Tit.
 
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ferryman said:
Excellent, vote 1 for independence. No, wait you can't vote on Scottish matters unlike us who can and do influence all things in the UK. Indeed governed tf largely for the past decade or so.

Devo-max is a good option. We get greater powers but still have a major presence in London. Win win win. Feed us some more. Tit.


You should want England to have a vote. Scotland don't want independence (just 30% do), but a greater proportion of England want to get rid of the Scots.
 
ferryman said:
Excellent, vote 1 for independence. No, wait you can't vote on Scottish matters unlike us who can and do influence all things in the UK. Indeed governed tf largely for the past decade or so.

Devo-max is a good option. We get greater powers but still have a major presence in London. Win win win. Feed us some more. Tit.

Yes, we've all been very appreciative of your efforts at governing. Keep practicing.

If you honestly believe devolution goes further without a severe reduction in your representation in the real parliament, you are sadly mistaken.

A Scottish vote for Devomax has all the democratic legitimacy of a Korean inheritance anyhow. Given the population ratios, its rather like the left back of the local pub football team declaring he's too scared to start his own team to play on, so insists on staying, but after a debate he had with himself he's concluded that everyone else needs to do his washing for him.
 
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I'm English but would vote for Scottish independence

They can take their bankrupt banks along with the oil, and we wouldn't have to accept their rubbish bank notes any more
 
Jul 30, 2009
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ferryman said:
Sans Ecosse after August 2014 I hope and pray;)

Sooner the better. Bring it on.

Looking at the current polls however it appears that the Welsh and English favour getting rid of the Scottish burden more than the Scots themselves.

Shame we don't get a vote on a matter that effects us more than the Scots.
 
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FignonLeGrand said:
Ah well done Sofia u sum up British identity so well even though you clearly are very poorly informed. Wiggins born in Belgium to an English mother and Australian dad, doesn't sound very Belgian does it. Britain itself is a union of England, Scotland, Wales and Nothern Ireland so the whole thing is a mix of nationalities and cultures, a melting pot. I am proud my country welcomes and embraces those who move and wish to represent their new country. Look at the runner Mo Farrah let's be honest how many countries would embrace a somalian refugee and nominate him as a sports star the year? Why don't you take your petty nationalistic views and keep them to yourself, what does it have to do with cycling. Nothing except jealousy I expect.

I love it when people state their outlooks on nationalistic truths and blatantly ignore the context and full scope. British sporting teams as they are right now are about cashing in. Appoint head of sport body, pay lots of money and DEMAND results. I guess that article I read in a British paper the other day listing a substantial number of Olympic hopefuls was wrong then? The one with athletes who switched allegiance at the drop of a hat in the past year or two. Can you blame them or the officials for scouting them? I cannot. The British government has been in over drive for a number of years now. The funding came from the national lottery. It's about looking good in front of the world. PR/Marketing for 2012...an Olympic year in your home soil. If you can't get results from home, poach. Pretty damn simple to recognise and understand.

Come on dude and smell the roses. People switch nationality to Britain to line their pockets. Nothing more, nothing less. First it was cricket, now it's athletics, swimming, heck even cycling. It's happening everywhere lately.

Sure some people do embrace the culture and nationality, then there are those who don't. The irony is truly lost on you. Britain, the nation whose citizens are begging to leave the EU and in turn shut the door on all those free immigrants. Yeah dude, you need to rethink your outlook. Britain is over run with people who don't give a toss about the British way of life and simply take and demand. People who weren't born their and don't know what true citizenship entitles. Open any British paper online and read the comments. It's plain as day.

Which begs the question, what does being British mean? It's an outlook. Part of your personality. Are those cyclists mentioned in this category? Yeah I'd say so. So would they. The ones who are taking the system for a ride are kind of obvious and IMO not cyclists. Don't forget many nations within the British commonwealth like to rip on the UK...particularly England for borrowing athletes who have been identified with other nations. There is a huge difference between being British and having a British passport.

At the end of the day, with a diverse ethnic background in the UK today, when an athlete wins a medal or better, takes a Gold on UK soil, few remember where they were born or how much that person considers themself British. They see a British uniform winning for Britain on British soil. It's about symbolism and cashing on that, not real substance. PS: The UK isn't the only country doing this.
 
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Galic Ho said:
Which begs the question, what does being British mean? It's an outlook. Part of your personality. Are those cyclists mentioned in this category? Yeah I'd say so. So would they. The ones who are taking the system for a ride are kind of obvious and IMO not cyclists. Don't forget many nations within the British commonwealth like to rip on the UK...particularly England for borrowing athletes who have been identified with other nations. There is a huge difference between being British and having a British passport.

At the end of the day, with a diverse ethnic background in the UK today, when an athlete wins a medal or better, takes a Gold on UK soil, few remember where they were born or how much that person considers themself British. They see a British uniform winning for Britain on British soil. It's about symbolism and cashing on that, not real substance. PS: The UK isn't the only country doing this.

However, if someone from Wales, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Isle Of Mann etc win. They're British, according to the mainstream English media (BBC, ITV, SKY). Yet, when an English man/woman wins they are 'English' all over the news reports and papers....a fact many non English Brits frequently notice. So the system works indifferently both ways.
 
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Machu Picchu said:
Funny how the uninformed all believe Scotland to be a burden yet those properly informed are all desperate to keep it.

Is Scotlands independence a matter for Scots, only or all of Britain?. Keeping a cycling theme should Scots be allowed to train in Manchester Velodrome if it becomes a new independent country??? It's funny how the vast majority of training arenas are inside England bolstered by sub-par statements of accessibilty, convience, etc when being built by Brit taxpayers money ...:confused:
 
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Galic Ho said:
love it when people state their outlooks on nationalistic truths and blatantly ignore the context and full scope. British sporting teams as they are right now are about cashing in. Appoint head of sport body, pay lots of money and DEMAND results. I guess that article I read in a British paper the other day listing a substantial number of Olympic hopefuls was wrong then? The one with athletes who switched allegiance at the drop of a hat in the past year or two. Can you blame them or the officials for scouting them? I cannot. The British government has been in over drive for a number of years now. The funding came from the national lottery. It's about looking good in front of the world. PR/Marketing for 2012...an Olympic year in your home soil. If you can't get results from home, poach. Pretty damn simple to recognise and understand.

Thats all total bollox. What does it have to do with cycling?


Galic Ho said:
Sure some people do embrace the culture and nationality, then there are those who don't. The irony is truly lost on you. Britain, the nation whose citizens are begging to leave the EU and in turn shut the door on all those free immigrants. Yeah dude, you need to rethink your outlook. Britain is over run with people who don't give a toss about the British way of life and simply take and demand. People who weren't born their and don't know what true citizenship entitles. Open any British paper online and read the comments. It's plain as day.

The irony isnt lost on me whatsoever, there is no irony in your statement. Dont tell me I ignore the context and then start rambling on about how everyone in UK wants to leave EU thats just not true, dont quote any UK news article and try and insinuate that represents my views they dont.
 
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Machu Picchu said:
Funny how the uninformed all believe Scotland to be a burden yet those properly informed are all desperate to keep it.

Any references?

You can blame this man for everything.

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By the way this thread SHOULD NOT be under Professional Road racing..!
 
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boardhanger said:
Is Scotland's independence a matter for Scots only or all of Britain?

Those registered to vote in Scotland only.

Andy99 said:
Any references?

The uninformed would most likely include the people on this thread, the people in that poll and the people who conducted it, the informed would include people such as David Cameron, Ed Miliband, Nick Clegg and Alex Salmond.
 
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Machu Picchu said:
The uninformed would most likely include the people on this thread, the people in that poll and the people who conducted it, the informed would include people such as David Cameron, Ed Miliband, Nick Clegg and Alex Salmond.

Oh thanks. A fairly sweeping statement, that.

So in a democracy; the only informed people are the MP's, whilst the electorate are uninformed. I see, so that's how it works.;)
 
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Waterloo Sunrise said:
The rest of us in the productive UK are praying too. Just hope your great leader doesn't take the cowardly way out and ****** about with Devo-max when he realises most Scots are not quite stupid enough to vote against the hand that feeds.

unbelieveable..... The hand that feeds it.....so the years that revenue from Scottish Oil underpinned the UK economy, want to give that back first as well?? The flat no when Salmond explored the crown estates revenues for Scottish waters tells you all you need to know about that.

A lot of these comments border on racist Mr and Mrs Mods, threads and posts have been pulled for less.
 
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Siriuscat said:
unbelieveable..... The hand that feeds it.....so the years that revenue from Scottish Oil underpinned the UK economy, want to give that back first as well?? The flat no when Salmond explored the crown estates revenues for Scottish waters tells you all you need to know about that.

A lot of these comments border on racist Mr and Mrs Mods, threads and posts have been pulled for less.

Serious? It's all part of Mr Salmond's grand plan.