Brits don't dope?

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Chaddy said:
In 21 year old English footballer at 4th tier Fleetwood town has been banned for two years for testing positive for Nandrolone.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2347980/Fleetwood-midfielder-Gerard-Kinsella-banned-years-testing-positive-steroids.html

Just saw this story today.

I googled to confirm his status as a British Citizen and it really appears to be true. I'm deeply shocked, but surely this is a very unique and isolated case, created by a very unique set of circumstances (he had trouble with injuries and was under pressure to perform) no other British athlete faces.
 
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SeriousSam said:
Just saw this story today.

I googled to confirm his status as a British Citizen and it really appears to be true. I'm deeply shocked, but surely this is a very unique and isolated case, created by a very unique set of circumstances (he had trouble with injuries and was under pressure to perform) no other British athlete faces.

Like becoming team leader, failing spectacularly in what you were hired and being shelled in the GT's as soon as it went from pancake flat to slightly bumpy?

Or being ill with a horrible disease and consequently find yourself on the short list of being axed?

I agree with you, those things never happened with British riders, those temptations arejust only there for southern scum :D
 
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Anglo Saxons generally speaking are the most honest culture on the planet. The only clean Tour de France winners were Lemond, Evans and now Wiggins.

French, Dutch, Belgians, Spaniards (these are the worst) they all have cheated. Thanks God our Greg brought some credibility to the sport and some followed his path.
 
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Albatros said:
Anglo Saxons generally speaking are the most honest culture on the planet. The only clean Tour de France winners were Lemond, Evans and now Wiggins.

French, Dutch, Belgians, Spaniards (these are the worst) they all have cheated. Thanks God our Greg brought some credibility to the sport and some followed his path.

A fantastic false flag action... too bad your dislike of Lemond is easy to see.
 
Sep 14, 2011
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On the subject of Brits not doping, impressive performance by James Dasaolu yesterday. His sudden transformation in his mid 20s seems to remind me of some other British sprinter from a few years back.
 
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Albatros said:
Anglo Saxons generally speaking are the most honest culture on the planet. The only clean Tour de France winners were Lemond, Evans and now Wiggins.

French, Dutch, Belgians, Spaniards (these are the worst) they all have cheated. Thanks God our Greg brought some credibility to the sport and some followed his path.
so right. add in armstrong to the clean anglophones. and ryder. and garmin. and sky. and greenedge
 
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Bernie's eyesore said:
On the subject of Brits not doping, impressive performance by James Dasaolu yesterday. His sudden transformation in his mid 20s seems to remind me of some other British sprinter from a few years back.

Can't wait for the next olympics ;) will the UK beat the USA?
 
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martinvickers said:
It's an English-language site, you do realise....

...shakes head, wanders off....

I'll defend the undefendable, check the links , no other languages ..... this means .... only the conniving anglo saxons need a page like this.

Although I don't think(hope) Alphabet was really serious with that piece of evidence
 
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Bernie's eyesore said:
On the subject of Brits not doping, impressive performance by James Dasaolu yesterday. His sudden transformation in his mid 20s seems to remind me of some other British sprinter from a few years back.


I'm one of the 'Brits don't Dope' brigade but that was highly suspicious
yesterday, although he did have a tailwind just below the legal limit.
 
Mrs John Murphy said:
? The UK has not had any major scandals such as Puerto, Festina, USP - is that absence of evidence (of doping), or evidence of absence (of doping)?

Its absence of razzias against possible dopers/doctors. In SE and Eastern Europe the police are/very active in this regard thus Puerto and this matter came out in the light.

UK think their noble culture and masterrace takes care of it all.

Noting that most large scale busts have involved law enforcement. Is it that UK police simply don't have any interest in anti-doping investigations considering it to the sporting matter (and besides for them there are more important things to do like public shows of force against hippies, students and brown people)

Yep.

Why go with this line? Is it a line to sell to the nationalists to get to jump onto the bandwagon, to sell a few more copies of your book in W.H.Smith to the Blue Rinse brigade? Does anyone sane and rational actually believe that Brits don't dope - or does believing the latter make the former an impossibility?

They are creating a good patriotic story now. The brits with Froome has come out winning when the former dopers is supposed to be clean ("Look how good we are in clean racing") and they are selling it clean cycling to the maximum. This will spin a good deal of intrests for the cycling market in Britain and make a damn lot of money.

That is why its more about Sky/Britain then Chris Froome/Wiggins.
 
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Loved it how British Eurosport told a sad story about Tom Simpson dying on this very climb (Mont Ventoux) all those years ago, comfily forgetting to mention the cocktail of **** his blood was mixed with. After all, brits dont dope.
 
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DirtyDennis said:
Quite right they were too.

A hair follicle test will not show up HGH, EPO, blood transfusions, or indeed any of the likely performance enhancing stuff.

Its a test for recreational drugs.

Maybe you didn't know that.

Most hormones can be detected in hair follicles (my own research measures cortisol and testosterone in elk hair), so HGH and testosterone could be detected in human hair. Steroid metabolites as well (eg. corticosteroids).
 
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antonshipulin said:
Loved it how British Eurosport told a sad story about Tom Simpson dying on this very climb (Mont Ventoux) all those years ago, comfily forgetting to mention the cocktail of **** his blood was mixed with. After all, brits dont dope.

Does that stop it being a sad story?
 
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antonshipulin said:
Loved it how British Eurosport told a sad story about Tom Simpson dying on this very climb (Mont Ventoux) all those years ago, comfily forgetting to mention the cocktail of **** his blood was mixed with. After all, brits dont dope.

In the UK we've had at least two radio programmes and a TV documentary that went into great detail about the cocktail of drugs Simpson took. One of the documentaries, Death on the Mountain, can be found on Youtube. It included interviews with riders and others who saw that Simpson was overdoing the drugs big time. It was first shown on BBC TV so you didn't need a Eurosport subscription to watch it. I can't say that there has ever been an attempt to forget why Simpson died, the two most recent UK biographies both discuss the drugs.