Cadel Ponders Future While Preparing For Vuelta

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The Hitch

The Hitch

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movingtarget said:
Every man and his dog knows but there are always exceptions.
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If you put your homerism to one side you will realize that someone who barely scraped into the top 10 of the Giro and was dropped heavily on every single mountain stage, isn't going to then win the Tour de France :cool:
 
cineteq

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The Hitch said:
If you put your homerism to one side you will realize that someone who barely scraped into the top 10 of the Giro and was dropped heavily on every single mountain stage, isn't going to then win the Tour de France :cool:
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Some people forget what he did on the first part of the Giro, only to run out of gas towards the end.

theyoungest said:
I think Cadel could do another year at the highest level if he decides to focus on the hilly classics, he's made for them but he rarely targets them. Maybe he should switch teams though to make that come to fruition.
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Agree 100%, forget GTs. He can still win one-week races too.
 
Libertine Seguros

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Cadel should ride another year, on a revised calendar. TDU yes, Ardennes yes, Tirreno should be perfect for him, País Vasco he could still do with his hilly capabilities and medium mountain lengths. If he does target a GT, the Vuelta is surely the only logical choice for him at this point in time - short, steep MTFs mostly on stages without long, multiple mountains, so fatigue isn't as likely to come in. GTs are probably a no-go at this point though. Maybe a secondary peak for late September for the races like Milano-Torino and Lombardia and depending on route, the Worlds.

Realistically though, he's going to be a placement rider in the really tough stage races and especially the GTs at this point unless he becomes a stage hunter.
 
hfer07

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movingtarget said:
Bit late for that now. He should have done it after his Tour win. He will be expected to support GVA and Gilbert. Hard to see Evans fitting in at BMC after this year unless he takes a pay cut and does the TOC, Utah and such races plus a few races that Gilbert is not riding. I think he will finish up after the TDU and the new one day race in his name in Australia. Would still like to see him do a decent ride in the Vuelta without threatening Froome or Quintana of course. Evans was all about the grand tours and as soon as Gilbert joined BMC the Ardenne classics were not going to be a big part of his season. Would also like to see him ride well in the Worlds but Gerrans will probably be team captain. But Gerrans has a had a chequered few months since the Liege win with illness and injury. Maybe there will be some flexibility for Evans to ride for himself.
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uh? :confused:

...But He's riding in support of Sanchez.....
 
The Hitch

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cineteq said:
Some people forget (fish memory?) what he did on the first part of the Giro, only to run out of gas towards the end.
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You mean the part without any mountains or tt?:eek::eek:

What relevance does that have to the final gt?

By your logic Tony Gallopin should be favourite for next years Tour de France because he led the TDF in the first week, and Cancellara is an all time gt great etc.

A little tip. If you want to look at whether a rider does at the final GC of a GT, look at where they were at the end of the third week, not at the beginning of the second;);)
 
The Hitch

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Walkman said:
Maybe rematch the Giro?
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So you are saying he didn't lose 3 minutes on Zoncolan, didn't lose 4 and a half minutes on Monte Grappa, didn't lose 5 minutes (-2 for the head start if you want) to Quintana and Hesjedal on Val Martelo and 1 and a half to Kelderman, didn't lose a minute on Montecampione?

Interesting.

You should contact mailto:info@cqranking.com. They seem to have their rankings all wrong.
 
Walkman

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The Hitch said:
So you are saying he didn't lose 3 minutes on Zoncolan, didn't lose 4 and a half minutes on Monte Grappa, didn't lose 5 minutes (-2 for the head start if you want) to Quintana and Hesjedal on Val Martelo and 1 and a half to Kelderman, didn't lose a minute on Montecampione?

Interesting.

You should contact mailto:info@cqranking.com. They seem to have their rankings all wrong.
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So, stage 8 and 9 does not counts? Because….you say so?

And stage 14, where he did beat Uran and was only 30 seconds back on Quintana?

Then less than a minute on stage 15 (save Aru).

Even on stage 16, he did ok seeing as he lost only 1.18 to the fastest guys who didn't attacked on the downhill.

And stop with you bull**** and admit your own faults. You said heavily on every stage. That is simply not true.
 
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movingtarget

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The Hitch said:
If you put your homerism to one side you will realize that someone who barely scraped into the top 10 of the Giro and was dropped heavily on every single mountain stage, isn't going to then win the Tour de France :cool:
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Comprehension not your strong point ? I was agreeing with you in saying every man and his dog knew that Evans was NOT going to perform in the Tour. Now I feel deflated, even when I agree with someone I am still criticized. Woe is me !
 
The Hitch

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movingtarget said:
Comprehension not your strong point ? I was agreeing with you in saying every man and his dog knew that Evans was NOT going to perform in the Tour. Now I feel deflated, even when I agree with someone I am still criticized. Woe is me !
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I apologize. I misread your post. Don't feel deflated, its on me.
 
cineteq

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In other words, you're saying Cadel will not win La Vuelta, am I right? :D
Bro, do you know what 'running out of gas' means? ;)

The Hitch said:
You mean the part without any mountains or tt?:eek:

What relevance does that have to the final gt?

By your logic Tony Gallopin should be favourite for next years Tour de France because he led the TDF in the first week, and Cancellara is an all time gt great etc.

A little tip. If you want to look at whether a rider does at the final GC of a GT, look at where they were at the end of the third week, not at the beginning of the second;)
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LMAO at this thread and i like Evans. Let me check Evans comes what 9th in Giro yet he could have won the TDF. HAHA
 
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Walkman said:
So, stage 8 and 9 does not counts? Because….you say so?

And stage 14, where he did beat Uran and was only 30 seconds back on Quintana?

Then less than a minute on stage 15 (save Aru).

Even on stage 16, he did ok seeing as he lost only 1.18 to the fastest guys who didn't attacked on the downhill.

And stop with you bull**** and admit your own faults. You said heavily on every stage. That is simply not true.
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Cadel faded every stage he was doing well in 2013 Giro remember in early week. He is great in hilly stages of a GT still. Soon as he see's the mountains he is done. Infact both the last 2 Giro's he limited his losses well in the first MTF but then it is all downhill, which means recovery.
 
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Personally i hope Cadel sticks around for another year or two, there are plenty of races he can still win/be very competitive in.

Not gonna lie im a massive fan boy so would love to see him do well in the GTs but i have accepted he is to past it to be competitive. Fades to much as the tours go on. The last two Utah stages have shown he is still at a high level though.
 
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Jspear said:
8th at last years Vuelta.
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Okay but do you expect him to do any better this year ? I thought Sanchez finished further back than that. Evans seems happy being a stage hunter at the moment which is what he should do if he continues next year. Not riding for GC takes the pressure off and he can save himself for certain stages.
 
Jspear

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movingtarget said:
Okay but do you expect him to do any better this year ? I thought Sanchez finished further back than that. Evans seems happy being a stage hunter at the moment which is what he should do if he continues next year. Not riding for GC takes the pressure off and he can save himself for certain stages.
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I don't expect him to finish higher than that. I was just answering your question. :) I personally see his best as being somewhere around 9th or 10th...either that or he'll be worst. But BMC could still bring a great team for stage hunting. Evans, Gilbert, GVA....
 
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movingtarget

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Jspear said:
I don't expect him to finish higher than that. I was just answering your question. :) I personally see his best as being somewhere around 9th or 10th...either that or he'll be worst. But BMC could still bring a great team for stage hunting. Evans, Gilbert, GVA....
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I agree. They could pick up a few stages.
 
ILovecycling

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The Hegelian said:
I thought after last years tdf that he had a LBL in him. Would be a classy way to go out with one big one day win.
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Yeah that would be really nice,leave pro peloton the Vino way.::)
I wish the same for AC end of career.
 
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theyoungest said:
... and finish 2nd a few times with GVA ;)

Evans' experience and grit can still win him races. That's probably more fun for him than chasing a 10th spot on GC.
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GVA will have to fight hard with Sagan for that :p
 
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