Teams & Riders Carlos Rodriguez- The Next Great Rodriguez Discussion Thread

[Netserk]

But keep in mind that at the top of the climb he was with the Yates brothers, Skjelmose and Gaudu.

 

[Big Doopie]

But keep in mind that at the top of the climb he was with the Yates brothers, Skjelmose and Gaudu.

Which will make him perfect in the Remco train at Ineos next year.

Love Carlos. Real happy he is back to his best again since last year’s Vuelta (where without his crash he may have been on the podium).

 

[ice&fire]

Which will make him perfect in the Remco train at Ineos next year.

Love Carlos. Real happy he is back to his best again since last year’s Vuelta (where without his crash he may have been on the podium).

If Remco wants Carlos in his train he'll probably need to go to Movistar

 

[Berniece]

I really hope he doesn’t go to the land where Spanish riders come to die. Just stay at Ineos

 

[Big Doopie]

If Remco wants Carlos in his train he'll probably need to go to Movistar

Yup, I know. It was wishful kidding on my part.

 

[JRanton]

He’s almost a shoe-in for a top-5 now, the fact that we’re in an age of prodigies will - undeservedly - somewhat diminish how big an achievement that is at 22. He can challenge for a Giro or Vuelta next year - if Ineos send him there, because with TGH leaving, he will be their only actually-good GC guy when age finally catches up with Thomas.

It‘s strongly rumoured that he already signed a huge contract (for five years) from 2024 onwards with Movistar last year. There were even reports that he wanted Ineos to cancel the final year of his contract but it looks like Ineos made a smart decision not to because he’s their only chance of a podium or top 5 on GC at this year’s Tour.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

It‘s strongly rumoured that he already signed a huge contract (for five years) from 2024 onwards with Movistar last year. There were even reports that he wanted Ineos to cancel the final year of his contract but it looks like Ineos made a smart decision not to because he’s their only chance of a podium or top 5 on GC at this year’s Tour.

Had forgotten about that, but at Movistar it’s also an open question as to which GT he gets sent to.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Had forgotten about that, but at Movistar it’s also an open question as to which GT he gets sent to.

Doing at Giro-Vuelta double next year would not be bad at all either considering that, at the moment, there are a few better riders than Carlos. Also considering Remco and Ayuso may be lining up, and so a Giro-bid would maybe make more sense to try to outright win it instead of hunting a top-3/top-5 as I think would be the case in 2024.

I really hope he goes to Movistar though, and they really need another really good rider next to Mas. They are really, really thin on talent.

 

[ice&fire]

Had forgotten about that, but at Movistar it’s also an open question as to which GT he gets sent to.

Considering how reliable is their current GT rider at the Tour...

 

[Valv.Piti]

Tourmalet through La Mongie, expect Rodriguez to be really good here if Kuss or something like that hits the front!

 

[Valv.Piti]

Great showing again. It was him who took it upon himself to test the other guys out and he may or may not be able to crack Hindley in the end, who knows, but I will be really surprised if he at least doesn't top-5 here.

 

[SafeBet]

Impressive performance today.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I'm not ridiculing the notion he can get better, I'm ridiculing the notion he's one of the top candidates for 3rd despite having no results indicating so with only his age to go by.

Even going by age + recent results Skjelmose is a much better bet anyway

He finished with Hindley, took 5m 18s on Skjelmose today, and is now 5th in GC. An overal 4th place seems realistic at this point.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Yes, I think its established that Rick's take was wrong since Rodriguez is not some explosive rider, but a real diesel who excels the harder it gets and then in theory gets better throughout a race likes stuff such as Loze. Had Hindley not went out front yesterday, it would be closer to a 50-50 in my estimation between those two and I have been on the record many times stating that I don't really think Gaudu is anything special at all.

 

[Trofonios]

I'm impressed, kid is doing great so far.

 

[Red Rick]

He finished with Hindley, took 5m 18s on Skjelmose today, and is now 5th in GC. An overal 4th place seems realistic at this point.

So you're telling me he overperformed expectations, and he's still an underdog to achieve said prediction when it was first proclaimed he was a favorite for 3rd?

Just because something happens doesn't make it always likely to happen.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

The post-Contador/Valverde/JRod era seems in increasingly safer hands with this kid, Mas, and Ayuso. Let's get a top 3

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

So you're telling me he overperformed expectations, and he's still an underdog to achieve said prediction when it was first proclaimed he was a favorite for 3rd?

Just because something happens doesn't make it always likely to happen.

Exactly where was it proclaimed he was the favourite for 3rd? And you yourself "proclaimed" Skjelmose more likely to deliver, which seems highly unlikely at this point (as it did last week as well). The point is i doubt the guys's Vuelta was a fluke, and he was not that far off podium pace back then, until he crashed and started losing minutes.

Regarding your statements about him overperforming, being underdog or favourite, seems like you are the one tangled up in claims, perhaps made by others.

 

[AlfaLum]

I think this kid is a great prospect. He isn’t as punchy as the big guns yet, but I think in the long run he might grow to a similar level.

Only I think that moving to Movistar will not be such a great choice when it comes to his development. With the way he is performing in GTs he could be Ineos number 1 again next year, which would be the better team for him in my opinion.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Confirmed for Movistar!

I could very well see Mas doing Giro + Vuelta, while Rodriguez would be the Tour number 1. For whatever reason things just tend to go wrong for Mas in TdF, whereas in the Vuelta he always brings his best level. That should be the plan as things stand right now!

You have to really applaud him for not signing with Ineos, Jumbo or UAE. We need these big talents to sign elsewhere as well.

 

[DNP-Old]

At the same time, it shows the ineptitude of Unzue. Back when Carlos (in combination with Raul Garcia Pierna) was killing Ayuso in the Spanish junior scene he wasn't at all interested, and let him walk to INEOS instead. Couldn't seal the deal on Ayuso either, despite his hero Valverde putting on all the charms in the book, inviting him to every training camp. As a result, he now has to spend millions for his services.

Has he learnt? Probably not, because it is looking likely he will miss out on Adria Pericas and Hector Alvarez as well.

 

[Valv.Piti]

As expected today, not brilliant, but definitely good enough! 3rd place is looking really attainable, and without Hindley's break, he'd probably be there already by now.

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

Chapeau Carlos! Not what this stage is going to be known for, but a meteoric rise for this young lad!

 

[SHAD0W93]

A big win for a promising young career.

 

[Eeslliw]

Chapeau Carlos! Not what this stage is going to be known for, but a meteoric rise for this young lad!

By what will this stage be known? Jonas and Pogacar holding their hands and brake levers? It is great win by Carlos, fully deserved one as he took down Pogacar who had all the reasons to not let him go. There were zero gifts today, only ballsy descent attack by Rodriguez. Great win.