Teams & Riders Carlos Rodriguez- The Next Great Rodriguez Discussion Thread

[Valv.Piti]

Impressive

Now lets see Tom Pidders' ride

 

[Nick2413]

Rodriguez is the real deal, definite Giro winner some day and should podium Tour soon. Didn’t get to see any of his descending today but one of the best there as well.

 

[tobydawq]

Is he having a bromance with Jonas? I saw them talking at length in the bunch on Monday (and Jonas doesn't often talk to people who are not his teammates or compatriots) and he patted his back when they crossed the finish line yesterday.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Is he having a bromance with Jonas? I saw them talking at length in the bunch on Monday (and Jonas doesn't often talk to people who are not his teammates or compatriots) and he patted his back when they crossed the finish line yesterday.

Vingegaard is trying to gain allies in his war against UAE.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Vingegaard is trying to gain allies in his war against UAE.

OTOH, Pogacar looks to have good relations with Remco. He beats Vingo also in the strength of his ally!

 

[Medvind]

Had hoped we would be closer to Remco and Rogla yesterday, lost 1 min 30 s.
Sure, not his favorite terrain, but still, if he wants to challange for a podium spot he needs to show a little bit more.

However, high mountains are coming up and on the long climbs he is usually good. Will Ineos try to challange Remco and Rogla for the 3rd spot. Remco is a bit of an unknown on the really hard mountain stages, definately Ineos should try to make it hard to test Remco at least.

So what do you think? Rodriguez for 3rd spot realistic or not?

 

[Peyroteo94]

Had hoped we would be closer to Remco and Rogla yesterday, lost 1 min 30 s.
Sure, not his favorite terrain, but still, if he wants to challange for a podium spot he needs to show a little bit more.

However, high mountains are coming up and on the long climbs he is usually good. Will Ineos try to challange Remco and Rogla for the 3rd spot. Remco is a bit of an unknown on the really hard mountain stages, definately Ineos should try to make it hard to test Remco at least.

So what do you think? Rodriguez for 3rd spot realistic or not?

This is his level. Last year he wasn't close to Yates, how can he be with Remco and Roglic at their best?

 

[Medvind]

This is his level. Last year he wasn't close to Yates, how can he be with Remco and Roglic at their best?

Young, can still improve? Remco might crack? Rogla has a Giro-moment and no Kuss to help him?
Want to see him in the pyrenees at least, before I pass a final judgement.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Young, can still improve? Remco might crack? Rogla has a Giro-moment and no Kuss to help him?
Want to see him in the pyrenees at least, before I pass a final judgement.

He isn't better than João. He would needa lot of luck to both Remco and Roglic to crack big time.

 

[Medvind]

He isn't better than João. He would needa lot of luck to both Remco and Roglic to crack big time.

Don't claim he is better than Joao, but Joao is a superdom, not certain he can go for his own chances completely. Also looked a bit weaker yesterday.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Don't claim he is better than Joao, but Joao is a superdom, not certain he can go for his own chances completely. Also looked a bit weaker yesterday.

João is like Rodriguez, he doesn't like small climbs with a lot of punch. He is tailormade for climbs like Bonette

 

[Earns1985]

5th overall is the most likely for now. Could become more, if Remco or Roglic crack or even less, if he struggles and/or Almeida improves and doesn´t have to work that much for Pogacar...

 

[Peter von]

Had hoped we would be closer to Remco and Rogla yesterday, lost 1 min 30 s.
Sure, not his favorite terrain, but still, if he wants to challange for a podium spot he needs to show a little bit more.

However, high mountains are coming up and on the long climbs he is usually good. Will Ineos try to challange Remco and Rogla for the 3rd spot. Remco is a bit of an unknown on the really hard mountain stages, definately Ineos should try to make it hard to test Remco at least.

So what do you think? Rodriguez for 3rd spot realistic or not?

so far in week longs CR has become better and better as the race progressed. So if that trend continues over 3 week he doesn’t need Rogla and Remco to drop massively in performance levels; however the fact that there are two of them makes me think Carlito will have a really hard time climbing the podium.

Also still possible that Jonas has overtrained and will nosedive in third week or that Pogi starts feeling those Giro legs. But not a great chance of either of those happening, at least to the extend it benefits Carlos.

So it’s a long shot imo; but enough of a chance that he has to keep fighting and just maybe, any given Sunday and all that.

 

[perico]

This is his level. Last year he wasn't close to Yates, how can he be with Remco and Roglic at their best?

Last year he was on the podium until he crashed hard.

 

[Medvind]

Harsh to say, but with Roglic's crash, podium doesn't look that improbable any more.
Much we hang on if Remco can be consistent in the high mountains or not. And C-rod ridning strongly of course.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Last year he was on the podium until he crashed hard.

He was on the podium because Hindley crashed and when did he crash? I don't remember the stage.

 

[ice&fire]

Last year he was on the podium until he crashed hard.

He was off the podium after the ITT and crashed in stage 20

 

[Netserk]

It has been a disappointing Tour, but given the way the whole team has been off and struck by illness, there's some hope that he can do much better next year.

 

[Valv.Piti]

It has been a disappointing Tour, but given the way the whole team has been off and struck by illness, there's some hope that he can do much better next year.

Agree. Seems to me most of Ineos have been off. Still its no completely failure or anything, but most people following the sport like we do would say its a performance a bit under par. He should at least be on the level of Landa and Almeida here IMO. I have been one of the poster kinda hyping him, but he's still a long way off atm

 

[Earns1985]

Agree. Seems to me most of Ineos have been off. Still its no completely failure or anything, but most people following the sport like we do would say its a performance a bit under par. He should at least be on the level of Landa and Almeida here IMO. I have been one of the poster kinda hyping him, but he's still a long way off atm

Yes, I also expected a bit more of him. He was still the only Ineos rider beside dePlus perhaps who performed close to his normal level, but still hoped for more, especially in the third week.

Talking about the third week in a GC. As I rememeber, the third week had been always the weakest of him in his three grand tours he rode. Hopefully he can change this in the future, otherwise it´s not a good signal for future GT plans with him.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Yes, I also expected a bit more of him. He was still the only Ineos rider beside dePlus perhaps who performed close to his normal level, but still hoped for more, especially in the third week.

Talking about the third week in a GC. As I rememeber, the third week had been always the weakest of him in his three grand tours he rode. Hopefully he can change this in the future, otherwise it´s not a good signal for future GT plans with him.

He crashed in the '22 Vuelta in the last week and was quite banged up.

 

[perico]

He crashed in the '22 Vuelta in the last week and was quite banged up.

He crashed in last year’s TDF in the 3rd week as well.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

He crashed in last year’s TDF in the 3rd week as well.

Yeah, i remember, but as someone pointed out, that was only in the last stage (before Paris). So not the explanation for fading in the last week.

 

[steffr222]

Don’t know why all these German Eurosport commentators kept telling the fairytale of Rodriguez’ always impoving in third week of GTs… Also always had another impression, so thanks for clarifying here @all