Cav surely a shoo-in for BBC Sports Personality of Year?

[auscyclefan94]

Yes to your first sentence. Your 2nd just means you're not aware of the alternate meaning of words, but as I say, your understanding is very common.

Personality is the particular combination of emotional, attitudinal, and behavioral response patterns of an individual.
- That definition is the common definiton of Personality. What Cav has won should be called BBC's Best Sportsperson Award. Sounds better and the criteria for the award is less ambigious.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Personality is the particular combination of emotional, attitudinal, and behavioral response patterns of an individual.
- That definition is the common definiton of Personality. What Cav has won should be called BBC's Best Sportsperson Award. Sounds better and the criteria for the award is less ambigious.

Your dictionary only has 1 entry per word?

You must get really confused by 'exploit'

 

[will10]

Cav = 169,152 votes
Clarke + Farah + Donald + Murray + Strauss + Cook + McIlroy + Greene + Khan = 172,807 votes

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/sports_personality/16303729.stm

 

[SirLes]

Nice to see on the BBC website they have deliberately misquoted from his acceptance speech.

"I had a group of guys who rode in Copenhagen who brought the rainbow jersey back to Britain after nearly half a century and that is a massive thing. Even to be nominated in the top 10 is an incredible thing."

He originally said "half a decade" then corrected himself to "nearly half a decade"

Reality and truth should always be improved on when possible imo.

 

[Freddythefrog]

half a century, half a decade or.....

Nice to see on the BBC website they have deliberately misquoted from his acceptance speech.

"I had a group of guys who rode in Copenhagen who brought the rainbow jersey back to Britain after nearly half a century and that is a massive thing. Even to be nominated in the top 10 is an incredible thing."

He originally said "half a decade" then corrected himself to "nearly half a decade"

Reality and truth should always be improved on when possible imo.

Love it ! Closer was "half a decade" or 3 years to be precise - but this is the BBC and girlies don't count, unless they are Directors of Sport. The British media think he won the Tour ! The program was cringemaking. It was like watching car-crash TV. I am glad Cav won but jeepers, that was so bad.

 

[richardp]

For those living in the UK, who a) ride their bikes most days with the constant threat of inconsiderate drivers and worse, the White van men, and b) suffer the general apathy of the nations media and wider public "you rode how far in one day?"), this can't be anything other than a massive, colossal Vote of appreciatiation by more than just the cycling community for what has been achieved here by not just Cav but the team, the team GB management and staff, teams Sky and HTC, and all those involved behind the scenes.

Finally, the UK media have to accept cycling as mainstream. Apologies to the rest of the world - this evening's result is massive here, and we want to celebrate.

I clearly have been......

Well done Cav and co..... And many thanks.

 

[The Hitch]

Did anyone who watch the whole programme see Cadel Evans mentioned at any point?

I ask because they mentioned winners from around the world of sport, who won Moto Gp, who won rugby, who won football, who won various athletics, so am wondering if they showed a bit of the Tour too?

Nevermind that all his competitors for Laureus got minutes each.

 

[luckyboy]

Cav = 169,152 votes
Clarke + Farah + Donald + Murray + Strauss + Cook + McIlroy + Greene + Khan = 172,807 votes

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/sports_personality/16303729.stm

That is crazy. 49%

Glad he won anyway.

 

[Jaunty Monty]

Its symptomatic of the show in recent years though. Far more time dedicated to style over substance profiles of the contenders to the detriment of anything else. Even the 'bigger' sports such as football were given cursory mentions. I remember the days when the show used to contain actual highlights with the original commentary. Now all we get is Eddie Butler and co with their poetic eulogising.

Anyway great to see Cav win. A real fillip for cyclings profile in the UK.

 

[clipperton]

Far more time dedicated to style over substance profiles of the contenders to the detriment of anything else.

given that it's british sport isn't that appropriate?

 

[ultimobici]

Personality is the particular combination of emotional, attitudinal, and behavioral response patterns of an individual.
- That definition is the common definiton of Personality. What Cav has won should be called BBC's Best Sportsperson Award. Sounds better and the criteria for the award is less ambigious.

ALways find it amusing when we get lessons on English from our friends in the Colonies.

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/personality

personality

Pronunciation: /pəːsəˈnalɪti/
noun (plural personalities)
1the combination of characteristics or qualities that form an individual’s distinctive character:
she had a sunny personality that was very engaging
[mass noun]:
she has triumphed by sheer force of personality
[mass noun] lively, engaging qualities:
she’s always had loads of personality
2a celebrity or famous person:
an official opening by a famous personality
3 [mass noun] archaic the quality or fact of being a person as distinct from a thing or animal.
4 (personalities) archaic disparaging remarks about an individual.

Origin:Late Middle English (in personality (sense 3)): from Old French personalite, from medieval Latin personalitas, from Latin personalis 'of a person' (see personal). personality (sense 1) dates from the late 18th century

The funny thing is your definition is a relatively recent one!

 

[ultimobici]

given that it's british sport isn't that appropriate?

Miaouw!!

 

[mr. tibbs]

snip

Careful with those stones. The title of this thread isn't really a question, but it carries a question mark. And you wrote it. Um. ?

Also, I'm willing to bet we could all dig through the OED and find interpretations of a given word to support whatever we want it to mean. But. With a language defined by contemporary (read: recent) usage (sc. English), it seems safe to assume words meanings lie in their most recent denotations, which you readily admit have been used in the post you're replying to.

I don't have access to the OED right now as I'm visiting the 'rents for the holidays; however, if you'd really like to push the usage thing, we can continue this discussion when I've returned to school and have access. And do note that I'm not talking about "oxforddictionaries.com," which you've cited at length, I'm talking about The Oxford English Dictionary, which is the actual authority on the English language that I think you're intending to reference, and which is a wholly separate entity from the .com you've quoted.

Just sayin'. Careful. ;P

 

[euanli]

Well the English cricket team/coach got more of a mention in the Metro this morning than Cavendish. So I hardly think cycling has hit the big time in the UK because of it.

 

[fourmi]

Why are they entirely separate? ODO is run by OUP, just like OED...

 

[Winterfold]

Like who?

I fully understand how traumatic the Ashes must have been and the need to erase certain things from your memory must be acute, so here is a reminder:

 

[Dalakhani]

Finally, the UK media have to accept cycling as mainstream.

I wouldn't bet on it. That horsey thing Zara Phillips does isn't regarded as "mainstream", even though she won SPOTY a few years ago.

It's a step forwards for road cycling in the UK, but mainstream British culture still doesn't understand how Cavendish got this "green jersey thing", or how it fits into the Tour.

Britain's relationship with road racing was, IMO, best summed up by the s**** news site, the Daily Mash, 2 years ago:

British Guy Did Not Win Tour De France
27-07-09
THE British cyclist who crossed the line first in Paris yesterday did not win the Tour de France, experts stressed last night.

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport...-guy-did-not-win-tour-de-france-200907271935/

Steve

 

[Mellow Velo]

Did anyone who watch the whole programme see Cadel Evans mentioned at any point?

Not unless I blinked and missed him.

Best Overseas Supermarket Opener Award?

As ACF has pointed out, the show is supposed to be about personality, not lack of.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

I hadn't realised so few votes were required to win.

Basically 30,000 cycling fans voted multiple times. Let's not get overexcited about the acceptance of cycling this represents.

 

[Tank Engine]

I'm not that surprised that he won, but the margin of victory definitely raised my eybrows.

Geraint won the British Olympic Award . I don't know how they decide upon this, but it's good to see that a crucial member of the team rather than "a winner" was presented with the award.

 

[El Pistolero]

ALways find it amusing when we get lessons on English from our friends in the Colonies.

The funny thing is your definition is a relatively recent one!

The funny thing is, it's the only definition 99% of the people in the world use. And can you sound more denigrating?

 

[auscyclefan94]

The funny thing is, it's the only definition 99% of the people in the world use. And can you sound more denigrating?

Thank you. I will basically reiterate what you have said. People in general think emotional and attitudal characteristics with Personality not quality of acheivement. I never seen the word 'personality' used for such a type of an award.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Thank you. I will basically reiterate what you have said. People in general think emotional and attitudal characteristics with Personality not quality of acheivement. I never seen the word 'personality' used for such a type of an award.

It's nothing to do with quality of achievement.

No one is debating what the word personality normally means in other contexts.

I'm just trying to inform you what it actually means in this context. If you want to get very upset about people using the variety and expression of the English language, then be my guest.

The award was created in the 50s, where a few people actually had a vocabulary over 5000 words. Personally, I see the choice to leave the term confusing for many people as a positive if it prompts them to think about the words they use a little.

 

[auscyclefan94]

It's nothing to do with quality of achievement.

No one is debating what the word personality normally means in other contexts.

I'm just trying to inform you what it actually means in this context. If you want to get very upset about people using the variety and expression of the English language, then be my guest.

The award was created in the 50s, where a few people actually had a vocabulary over 5000 words. Personally, I see the choice to leave the term confusing for many people as a positive if it prompts them to think about the words they use a little.

Rubbish! It is a 'best athlete' award which is ultimately determined on the quality of acheivements of all the athletes. I like El Pisterlero were just stating that in today's world the word Personality is used in a different context to what the title of the award is used.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Rubbish! It is a 'best athlete' award which is ultimately determined on the quality of acheivements of all the athletes. I like El Pisterlero were just stating that in today's world the word Personality is used in a different context to what the title of the award is used.

I'm not talking about the award - I'm talking about the usage of the word personality, which to reiterate, in this context simply means person, but sounds less stilted.

If you honestly believe words can only have 1 meaning and must be context blind, then it's a shame you've chosen to close off the entire world of literature to yourself.