Cavendish: Why is so difficult to like him?

[brianf7]

He is a sprinter a show poney not a worker . we all know the ones who sit in the bunch sucking wheels while we work our but off to chase breaks.
then just as we have it made out they come with a big burst.
Dont you hate them.

If you have to do a turn do it early in the race so pleanty of time to recover and preferably down hill.

 

[ferryman]

+about a thousand and one. I'm going to get on my high horse, and to be fair it's not just this forum that has made me feel this way. There is a lot of cliques within cycling, both between fans and also within the peleton. Cervelo would make you believe cav is hell bent on knocking people off their bike. There are numerous (80%+) on here who just love to slag cav off. Your just the same as football fans, I fell in love with cycling because it was the complete opposite to football, and cav is a person who is that-a person. He basically gave up half if his winter(as well as the tooth op)to look after a friend who pretty much had died- but thank god is now back racing. The pressure he is under from the (****) British press who know nothing of cycling but expect him to win is obscene. Yet you lot think your above genuine characters who make our sport what it is, you should all ve ashamed of yourselves. The emotion cav showed today was genuine, and it is what you or I would show

Complete mince. So nobody else in the peloton has had to deal with personal loss or tragedy. I guess at least 80% of this forum AND THE PELETON have done so and gone back to work without being a paranoid foul mouth pr***. He is a t*t of the first order.

 

[stefrees]

Complete mince. So nobody else in the peloton has had to deal with personal loss or tragedy. I guess at least 80% of this forum AND THE PELETON have done so and gone back to work without being a paranoid foul mouth pr***. He is a t*t of the first order.

Fine, hold on to that principle, let's take emotion out of cycling.


The point is still valid, what cav did for bellis...

 

[Libertine Seguros]

People aren't 'good' or 'evil', or 'nice' and 'douche', it's not so simple as to divide people down the middle like that. It's possible for a guy who is generally a total douchebag, who goes around being disrespectful, insulting and aggressive to, when faced with a different set of circumstances, be a kind, gentle and dignified human being. That doesn't excuse the other times that he's been a douche, but at the same time, the amount of times that he's been a douche shouldn't mean we ignore when he does something good.

 

[Mambo95]

+about a thousand and one. I'm going to get on my high horse, and to be fair it's not just this forum that has made me feel this way. There is a lot of cliques within cycling, both between fans and also within the peleton. Cervelo would make you believe cav is hell bent on knocking people off their bike. There are numerous (80%+) on here who just love to slag cav off. Your just the same as football fans, I fell in love with cycling because it was the complete opposite to football, and cav is a person who is that-a person. He basically gave up half if his winter(as well as the tooth op)to look after a friend who pretty much had died- but thank god is now back racing. The pressure he is under from the (****) British press who know nothing of cycling but expect him to win is obscene. Yet you lot think your above genuine characters who make our sport what it is, you should all ve ashamed of yourselves. The emotion cav showed today was genuine, and it is what you or I would show

You're absolutely right, particularly about the football thing. I only post here occasionally, preferring another forum. Over there people have their favourites and those they're not keen on, but cycling is discussed on it's own merits. On this forum it seems you have to really hate somebody and display your bile, as though that shows you're a passionate fan. Personally, I don't hate any of them, they're just cyclists, not criminals, and they're entertaining me.

 

[santacruz]

I can't believe people here actually get their panties in a bunch over anything Cavendish says.. who actually cares?? You really want to expend your energy in life being angry about some words from this kid? Just sit back and enjoy the bike racing ffs.

 

[Sydney Sider]

You're absolutely right, particularly about the football thing. I only post here occasionally, preferring another forum. Over there people have their favourites and those they're not keen on, but cycling is discussed on it's own merits. On this forum it seems you have to really hate somebody and display your bile, as though that shows you're a passionate fan. Personally, I don't hate any of them, they're just cyclists, not criminals, and they're entertaining me.

Maybe you should Ask Lance in a few years whether he was just a cylist or a criminal

 

[Rooboy]

Imagine what you were like at his age (assuming you've reached it).

Now throw in some amazing legs, lots of money, adoring fans and a drive to win.

No wonder he comes across as cocky and arrogant.

All we hear are the sound bites (ala Cadel) but he's maturing and starting to be well looked after - anyone else notice that one of the first people in his ear after winning today was his press officer. She seemed to be in his ear for some time (I'm sure she was just congratulating him).

As for what happens on the road thats the job of the officials but the cameras seem to catch him a lot chatting to Lance. Who else better to learn from on how to make the peloton respect/obey/follow you? OK maybe spartacus atm but that's not the point.

 

[Mambo95]

Maybe you should Ask Lance in a few years whether he was just a cylist or a criminal

And this proves my point. On this forum, people are unable to discuss matters dispassionately. They always have to have a pop at their own hate figure at any opportunity.

(I'm no fan of Armstrong myself, but he's just a cyclist. He may technically turn out to be a criminal, but hardly a serious one)

 

[ferryman]

Imagine what you were like at his age (assuming you've reached it).

Now throw in some amazing legs, lots of money, adoring fans and a drive to win.

No wonder he comes across as cocky and arrogant.

All we hear are the sound bites (ala Cadel) but he's maturing and starting to be well looked after - anyone else notice that one of the first people in his ear after winning today was his press officer. She seemed to be in his ear for some time (I'm sure she was just congratulating him).

As for what happens on the road thats the job of the officials but the cameras seem to catch him a lot chatting to Lance. Who else better to learn from on how to make the peloton respect/obey/follow you? OK maybe spartacus atm but that's not the point.

Done it. He is still a pri

 

[auscyclefan94]

I WANT MY MUMMY!

OK, it was a good win.

 

[cyclestationgiuseppe]

The man can sprint...there is no doubt about that
But he has the immature mentality of a small soap dish.

 

[Michielveedeebee]

I kinda like him too!
He's got a temper, so what? It would be kinda boring if they all just smiled all the time...

yep, and those tears of today were just amazing to watch. And he admits he was cocky

 

[Dewulf]

when everything goes well for him he seems fine but he has a different side about him that you don't want to find out.... also very insecure.

^this

his insecurity leads him to unfairly impact others when he's under pressure, ie. he can't handle pressure like an adult, not even to the level of other sprinters (exception perhaps being Graham Brown).

For example, publicly *****ing at Greipel, the two fingered salute, the erractic sprinting taking down Haussler and the other riders (ending their TdF before it started) and the failure to actually apologise for that....

...not to mention the stupidity of ignoring the dental surgeon's advise not to train after his tooth op, resulting in the infection which seriously impacted his own team's results so far this season (since almost all of the team is built around him).

So he can win all the races in the world, and he'll be happy and thank his team mates like he should....but if things don't go his way, he starts hurting other people.

Also, as a rider he's actually very one-dimensional. He can win sprints from an (excellent) train. If Cav's ego and ability could have handled it, Greipel could have been in MSR and he would have had a chance....but Cav can't seem to win unless practically the whole team delivers him to the line.



eg 1. Greipel was asking HTC for selection for MSR and talked about this to the media, and i don't think he specifically referred to Cav at that time, but Cav then takes it personally, and slates him hardcore in the press. When Cav then doesn't perform at the race, he doesn't apologise, he makes excuses, then on the next race he wins, gives a two fingered salute. Talking sh*t in the bus or on camp is one thing - publicly putting your own team mate down just because he stated his own case for selection is another.

eg.2 Still not winning and therefore feeling very insecure, Cav

 

[SpartacusRox]

And this proves my point. On this forum, people are unable to discuss matters dispassionately. They always have to have a pop at their own hate figure at any opportunity.

(I'm no fan of Armstrong myself, but he's just a cyclist. He may technically turn out to be a criminal, but hardly a serious one)

Just humour guys like Sidney, tall poppy syndrome to the max.

 

[SpartacusRox]

I WANT MY MUMMY!

OK, it was a good win.

At least he never headbutted the camera or threatened to rip anyones throat out, so he deals with pressure better than other cry babies...

 

[ZebuDogFish]

Misinterpreted

I think some people don't quite understand poor Cav, as evidenced by his vulnerability on the podium...

That said, what's not to like about his explanation for his recent salute problems from this article:

Cavendish recently told an interviewer that his two-finger salute had been misinterpreted as it was in fact a reference to the Battle of Agincourt in 1415 in which the French army cut the fingers of English archers they took as prisoners.

The archers later showed their remaining fingers to the enemy to make clear the struggle continued.

“It was a symbolic way for me to express that I kept fighting,” Cavendish said.

Awesome.

 

[cody_57]

Cavendish recently told an interviewer that his two-finger salute had been misinterpreted as it was in fact a reference to the Battle of Agincourt in 1415 in which the French army cut the fingers of English archers they took as prisoners.

The archers later showed their remaining fingers to the enemy to make clear the struggle continued.

“It was a symbolic way for me to express that I kept fighting,” Cavendish said.[/I]

Awesome.

Forget the 'performance doctors', Cav has the best spin doctor(s) in the world!!

 

[Sydney Sider]

Just humour guys like Sidney, tall poppy syndrome to the max.

No i dont like the guy cause of his attitude and actions towards the sport , nothing to do with Tall Poppy Syndrome. He is a great sprinter , i admit that but he also acts like a spoilt little brat when things arent going his way.

 

[spanky wanderlust]

I can't believe people here actually get their panties in a bunch over anything Cavendish says.. who actually cares?? You really want to expend your energy in life being angry about some words from this kid? Just sit back and enjoy the bike racing ffs.

many here purchase their panties pre-bunched.

 

[WonderLance]

Its pretty clear that people hate excellence. He wins so people hate.

 

[Sydney Sider]

Its pretty clear that people hate excellence. He wins so people hate.

Well this year should'nt the hate be directed towards Greipel and not Cav

 

[forty four]

Its pretty clear that people hate excellence. He wins so people hate.

your avatar is of a shirtless la there fore your opinion is null and void sorry.

 

[SpartacusRox]

many here purchase their panties pre-bunched.

And they buy them in bulk and various colours for different threads

 

[SpartacusRox]

No i dont like the guy cause of his attitude and actions towards the sport , nothing to do with Tall Poppy Syndrome. He is a great sprinter , i admit that but he also acts like a spoilt little brat when things arent going his way.

Yeah, not like an Aussie sportsman eh? You would never see Warnie or Ponting behaving like that

Like I said at least he didn't headbut the camera or even his fellow Australian rider like another sprinter...